FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[AndOne]

First post ever:   A comment on NCC's ranking with UWW/Mount Union.   I believe it's time for the playoffs to be set up so that NCC shows up in the same half of the brackets as Mt Union instead of UWW.  Comments ?

Why?

Exactly, Augie6
And, Mt. Union would be how much of an advantage over facing UWW?

[AndOne]

First post ever:   A comment on NCC's ranking with UWW/Mount Union.   I believe it's time for the playoffs to be set up so that NCC shows up in the same half of the brackets as Mt Union instead of UWW.  Comments ?

Why?

Exactly Why the drive is seven hours one way and the drive home after a butt whooping last forever.  Most teams in the playoffs rush under 50yds against Mount and get a buck something in passing.  As Mike North says I'm not sayen I'm just sayen.

Yes, but I hope you're not holding up Mike North as a example of an all knowing sports guru. 

[Pat Coleman]

Most likely top 25 team to be upset: (Pat Coleman) NCC.

Of course, I'd feel even better if he was right more often on those picks!

Looks like that crystal ball needs a bit of polishing. 

Well, in fairness, he is picking upsets, and he always picks third.  I thought today's game would be closer, but I think NCC has risen to a different level.  Probably not yet UMU/UWW, but in the group just below them.  The loss at Redlands is looking more and more like 'just one of those days'.

IF IWU takes care of business, they'll still be in the playoffs; hopefully they can make some serious noise!

I usually pick second, for what it's worth, but yes -- remember that category is trying to pick an upset, of which there was exactly one yesterday.

[AndOne]

Most likely top 25 team to be upset: (Pat Coleman) NCC.

Of course, I'd feel even better if he was right more often on those picks!

Looks like that crystal ball needs a bit of polishing. 

Well, in fairness, he is picking upsets, and he always picks third.  I thought today's game would be closer, but I think NCC has risen to a different level.  Probably not yet UMU/UWW, but in the group just below them.  The loss at Redlands is looking more and more like 'just one of those days'.

IF IWU takes care of business, they'll still be in the playoffs; hopefully they can make some serious noise!

I usually pick second, for what it's worth, but yes -- remember that category is trying to pick an upset, of which there was exactly one yesterday.

Yes, a bit east of where it was thought to be likely to happen.     

[Pat Coleman]

I didn't see your upset prediction. 20-20 hindsight doesn't take much thought.

[AndOne]

Pat--

1. I didn't know it was my job to predict any upsets
2. My 1st post on your incorrect prediction of North Central being upset was pretty benign as far as my saying the crystal ball used in
this prediction needs a little polishing. I didn't say anything like it was an idiotic prediction or even anything like there was never any
chance of IWU winning or anything like that. It was just a very slight lighthearted jab as I tried to emphasize by including the smiley face.
3. Your reaction to my above post was to say there was exactly one upset Sat. I essentially agreed and just added (the true statement)
that the upset that did occur happened at a site "a little east" of your predicted site. Again, in a non derogatory manner and with a wink
and smiley included.
4. It just seems you're taking what I intended as a little light hearted joking about your predicting my North Central team to lose as a
much more personal affront/attack than was ever my intent.   

[Pat Coleman]

Only just a reminder that it's a little disingenuous to ride someone else's pick when you haven't made any of your own.

By the way, I suspect The College of New Jersey is on people's radar now.

[lfter]

First post ever:   A comment on NCC's ranking with UWW/Mount Union.   I believe it's time for the playoffs to be set up so that NCC shows up in the same half of the brackets as Mt Union instead of UWW.  Comments ?

Why?

Exactly, Augie6
And, Mt. Union would be how much of an advantage over facing UWW?

The people at NCC believe UWW is better than UMU and I for one am tired of the same 2 teams in the finals. In addition distance does not matter.  Benedictine adn Aurora have made the play-offs the last few years and NCC has played St. Norbert and Franklin respectively

[NCF]

First post ever:   A comment on NCC's ranking with UWW/Mount Union.   I believe it's time for the playoffs to be set up so that NCC shows up in the same half of the brackets as Mt Union instead of UWW.  Comments ?

Why?

Exactly, Augie6
And, Mt. Union would be how much of an advantage over facing UWW?

The people at NCC believe UWW is better than UMU and I for one am tired of the same 2 teams in the finals. In addition distance does not matter.  Benedictine adn Aurora have made the play-offs the last few years and NCC has played St. Norbert and Franklin respectively

Since when? They believe that BOTH of those teams are equally great! That said, the road to Salem goes through BOTH UWW AND UWU. NC wants to be in the play-offs and they don't care where they go and who they play. They have to be ready to play anyone on any day. They learned that lesson the hard way in week 1. They still have to take care of business this week and next and not look too far down the road.

[Always.A.Titan]

Well...the good news is I made it back to work on Monday after spending a weekend in Bloomington. I am sure everyone has missed me so much.

Tough game/pretty boring game to watch on Saturday afternoon at Wilder Field. It seemed like nothing happened in the entire 2nd half. NCC played a good game. The first drive was a tone setter for the game going right through the IWU defense. On offense, IWU struggled to run minus a draw play here and there. The passing game seemed just a step off and it hurt. They missed Musselman by about 2 yards for a TD on the first drive and had a big play called back for holding. Those 2 plays in addition to an INT in the endzone and a pick 6 were pretty much all you needed to see for the game. NCC's defense put a stopper in the IWU offense and even frustrated the former players watching from the endzone  .

Anyway, there is still a light at the end of the tunnel. This opens the door for 2 CCIW teams to get into the playoffs. I refuse to root for NCC for personal reasons that start with me liking green more than any other color, but if they win out and IWU wins out, both should get in. I was able to talk to a bunch of IWU guys after the game on Saturday. Although they were not too happy about Saturday, they were ready to get back to the field on Tuesday for practice and get back to work.

At least the Bears won...even though they tried their hardest to lose it.

[Kovo]

Well...the good news is I made it back to work on Monday after spending a weekend in Bloomington. I am sure everyone has missed me so much.

Tough game/pretty boring game to watch on Saturday afternoon at Wilder Field. It seemed like nothing happened in the entire 2nd half. NCC played a good game. The first drive was a tone setter for the game going right through the IWU defense. On offense, IWU struggled to run minus a draw play here and there. The passing game seemed just a step off and it hurt. They missed Musselman by about 2 yards for a TD on the first drive and had a big play called back for holding. Those 2 plays in addition to an INT in the endzone and a pick 6 were pretty much all you needed to see for the game. NCC's defense put a stopper in the IWU offense and even frustrated the former players watching from the endzone  .

Anyway, there is still a light at the end of the tunnel. This opens the door for 2 CCIW teams to get into the playoffs. I refuse to root for NCC for personal reasons that start with me liking green more than any other color, but if they win out and IWU wins out, both should get in. I was able to talk to a bunch of IWU guys after the game on Saturday. Although they were not too happy about Saturday, they were ready to get back to the field on Tuesday for practice and get back to work.

At least the Bears won...even though they tried their hardest to lose it.

I think that it is clear that IWU, NCC and Wheaton control their own destinies.  And quite frankly, with NCC and Wheaton game looming, IWU has to feel pretty good as to where they stand as far as the playoffs.  But yes, I expect the guys in green will root wildly for Wheaton, with a chance to grab a share of the CCIW crown.  Of course, I am NOT looking past Elmhurst, as NCC's offense put up 17 points.  Unless we can find more points all of the remaining games could be close particularly given the closeness of the Augie NPU game, and the fact that we were 10-3 with Augie in the 4th quarter.

[Augie6]

First post ever:   A comment on NCC's ranking with UWW/Mount Union.   I believe it's time for the playoffs to be set up so that NCC shows up in the same half of the brackets as Mt Union instead of UWW.  Comments ?

Why?

Exactly, Augie6
And, Mt. Union would be how much of an advantage over facing UWW?

The people at NCC believe UWW is better than UMU and I for one am tired of the same 2 teams in the finals. In addition distance does not matter.  Benedictine adn Aurora have made the play-offs the last few years and NCC has played St. Norbert and Franklin respectively

Since when? They believe that BOTH of those teams are equally great! That said, the road to Salem goes through BOTH UWW AND UWU. NC wants to be in the play-offs and they don't care where they go and who they play. They have to be ready to play anyone on any day. They learned that lesson the hard way in week 1. They still have to take care of business this week and next and not look too far down the road.

Ifter,

Ok, I get that you think NCC might have a better chance of getting to the Stagg Bowl through MU than UWW (although many people would disagree with that opinion).  But why should the NCAA set up the playoffs so that NCC could have a more favorable match-up (understanding that's in your opinion).  In my mind, the NCAA did NCC a huge favor last year by seeding the Cardinals above UWW and giving them the opportunity to play the Warhawks at home.  Despite playing very well, they didn't get it done.  The bottom line is, someone has to beat one of those two teams to be deserving of anything that may be perceived as beneficial.  Personally, I would love to see another team (or two) in the Stagg Bowl besides UWW or MU.  But I think that the NCAA has been doing the right thing by keeping those two teams on opposite sides of the bracket and should continue to do so.  There is no question we have had the best two teams playing for the National Championship for several years running, which is the way it should be. 

[Always.A.Titan]

Question...

Regarding tiebreakers...If Wheaton beats NCC, but not by enough points to remove NCC from the AQ, any chance the CCIW gets 3 in with IWU and Wheaton having 9-1 records and NCC getting the AQ at 8-2. That is a mess of a situation, but I think it is a possible scenario if I understand the rules correctly.

[Mugsy]

Question...

Regarding tiebreakers...If Wheaton beats NCC, but not by enough points to remove NCC from the AQ, any chance the CCIW gets 3 in with IWU and Wheaton having 9-1 records and NCC getting the AQ at 8-2. That is a mess of a situation, but I think it is a possible scenario if I understand the rules correctly.

Extremely remote, IMO. 

It would require quite a number of 1 loss teams to lose in the next 3 weeks.  Then you have UWO who should finish 8-2 with their only losses to Mount Union and UWW.  There is a Pool C board under the "General Football" area that covers this in detail - what teams are currently in the mix, possible scenarios for them to get one of the six Pool C slots, etc...

[NCF]

Well...the good news is I made it back to work on Monday after spending a weekend in Bloomington. I am sure everyone has missed me so much.

Tough game/pretty boring game to watch on Saturday afternoon at Wilder Field. It seemed like nothing happened in the entire 2nd half. NCC played a good game. The first drive was a tone setter for the game going right through the IWU defense. On offense, IWU struggled to run minus a draw play here and there. The passing game seemed just a step off and it hurt. They missed Musselman by about 2 yards for a TD on the first drive and had a big play called back for holding. Those 2 plays in addition to an INT in the endzone and a pick 6 were pretty much all you needed to see for the game. NCC's defense put a stopper in the IWU offense and even frustrated the former players watching from the endzone  .

Anyway, there is still a light at the end of the tunnel. This opens the door for 2 CCIW teams to get into the playoffs. I refuse to root for NCC for personal reasons that start with me liking green more than any other color, but if they win out and IWU wins out, both should get in. I was able to talk to a bunch of IWU guys after the game on Saturday. Although they were not too happy about Saturday, they were ready to get back to the field on Tuesday for practice and get back to work.

At least the Bears won...even though they tried their hardest to lose it.

You don't have to root for us-that's ok, but your team should be kicking itself for not slamming the door shut on NC. IWU was in control of their own destiny and bottom line-they didn't get the job done. Good luck in the play-offs, you're already going. North Central still has their ticket to punch. Go Cards