FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

Back to football.

Congrats to North Park freshman quarterback T.D. Conway upon being named CCIW Offensive Player of the Week. This is the first time in four years that two different Vikings have been named CCIW Player of the Week, as NPU senior middle linebacker Bennett Dettlinger was named CCIW Defensive Player of the Week after the win over Carthage.

The word on NPU senior safety and co-captain Taylor Simental is that he should be back in uniform against Elmhurst on Saturday after having missed the last two games and most of the game before that. That's huge -- he's a big part of the NPU defense.

[kiko]

Game story in the QC Times.

Augustana head coach Rob Cushman said he warned his players in advance that they couldn't take Saturday's game lightly.

"I tried to tell our guys that's not the old North Park," Cushman said. "I'm not sure I got through to them."

What's funny about this is that the Augie of today is taking anyone lightly!   

I was actually thinking about this after the result scrolled in Saturday night.  At the risk of sounding pejorative toward NPU, which is not how I mean this, what does it say about the current state of affairs in Rock Island that (1) they've achieved what would have to be considered a new bottom in an era that has seen a lot of lows, and (2) the program is so moribund that there are crickets on this forum emanating from the Quad Cities about this result and what it means for the current state of affairs.

I get that this message board is not an analog for strength of a program's support, and that there tend to be more posters for programs on their front foot than on their back foot, but imagine Mount Union or Whitewater  having no regular posters on this forum.  Cuz Augie was the MUU/UWW of its heyday, and it's been a while since we've had a regular poster wearing that shade of Blue and Gold.

Suffice it to say, this is not your father's Augustana football program.

[Gregory Sager]

Game story in the QC Times.

Augustana head coach Rob Cushman said he warned his players in advance that they couldn't take Saturday's game lightly.

"I tried to tell our guys that's not the old North Park," Cushman said. "I'm not sure I got through to them."

What's funny about this is that the Augie of today is taking anyone lightly!   

I was actually thinking about this after the result scrolled in Saturday night.  At the risk of sounding pejorative toward NPU, which is not how I mean this, what does it say about the current state of affairs in Rock Island that (1) they've achieved what would have to be considered a new bottom in an era that has seen a lot of lows, and (2) the program is so moribund that there are crickets on this forum emanating from the Quad Cities about this result and what it means for the current state of affairs.

I get that this message board is not an analog for strength of a program's support, and that there tend to be more posters for programs on their front foot than on their back foot, but imagine Mount Union or Whitewater  having no regular posters on this forum.  Cuz Augie was the MUU/UWW of its heyday, and it's been a while since we've had a regular poster wearing that shade of Blue and Gold.

Suffice it to say, this is not your father's Augustana football program.

I was thinking that same thing as I read Son of Tailgater's post. Heck, the Carthage program appears to be in much sorrier shape than Augustana's at the moment, and yet SoT still bothers to not only read this room but to post something here two days after his former team lost a conference game by 52 points. Not that every Carthage fan has that kind of loyalty or the set of stones that it take to stand up and be counted in the face of such severe adversity to his alma mater's program, but it does make Augie's fan support (or lack thereof) look even worse by comparison.

There was a grand total of 634 fans at Saturday night's game in Rock Island. Granted, it was probably just as chilly that night by the banks of the Father of Waters as it was here in the Chi, and NPU is not what any of the other seven schools would consider a prime drawing card as far as CCIW football attendance is concerned. Nevertheless, that's a pretty weak turnout for a 4-2 team that had been playing pretty respectable football over the past few weeks.

[AndOne]

A good liberal education allows for clarity and brevity of language, even in commercials.  Just try'in to educate you narrow jocks.   

IWU70

Holy Green Weenie iwu70!
You really need to get out your dictionary and look up the meaning of "brevity."
In case you've misplaced it, let me help.

brev·i·ty noun \ˈbre-və-tē\

: the use of few words to say something

: the quality or fact of lasting only for a short period of time

Use the word "brevity" in a sentence---Given the great length of a majority of Mr. iwu70's posts, it is obvious that his failure to comprehend the meaning of "brevity" is total. 

[kiko]

Perhaps the d3boards poobahs can add a feature for "Words" over yonder next to "Posts" and "Karma".

Surely there are some rudimentary sabermatics we could run with this additional data point.

[Mr. Ypsi]

A good liberal education allows for clarity and brevity of language, even in commercials.  Just try'in to educate you narrow jocks.   

IWU70

Holy Green Weenie iwu70!
You really need to get out your dictionary and look up the meaning of "brevity."
In case you've misplaced it, let me help.

brev·i·ty noun \ˈbre-və-tē\

: the use of few words to say something

: the quality or fact of lasting only for a short period of time

Use the word "brevity" in a sentence---Given the great length of a majority of Mr. iwu70's posts, it is obvious that his failure to comprehend the meaning of "brevity" is total. 

Actually, you need to go re-read the board.  The majority of Mark's posts have, indeed, exhibited brevity.

Perhaps the d3boards poobahs can add a feature for "Words" over yonder next to "Posts" and "Karma".

Surely there are some rudimentary sabermatics we could run with this additional data point.

If they adopted a 'words-per-post' feature, clearly the appropriate analysis would be Sagermetrics!

[Gregory Sager]

A good liberal education allows for clarity and brevity of language, even in commercials.  Just try'in to educate you narrow jocks.   

IWU70

Holy Green Weenie iwu70!
You really need to get out your dictionary and look up the meaning of "brevity."
In case you've misplaced it, let me help.

brev·i·ty noun \ˈbre-və-tē\

: the use of few words to say something

: the quality or fact of lasting only for a short period of time

Use the word "brevity" in a sentence---Given the great length of a majority of Mr. iwu70's posts, it is obvious that his failure to comprehend the meaning of "brevity" is total. 

Actually, you need to go re-read the board.  The majority of Mark's posts have, indeed, exhibited brevity.

... and they're even briefer if you quickly scan them, see that they're merely gushing commercials for All Things Green And Weenieful, and zip right past them with the scroll feature.

Perhaps the d3boards poobahs can add a feature for "Words" over yonder next to "Posts" and "Karma".

Surely there are some rudimentary sabermatics we could run with this additional data point.

If they adopted a 'words-per-post' feature, clearly the appropriate analysis would be Sagermetrics!

As I said, I don't hold prolixity against anybody on d3boards.com. I am one pot who does not call the kettle "black".

[iwu70]

Thank you, Greg.  AndOne, this is a posting of brevity.

No commercials here, but the State Farm Hall opening was glorious!   IWU rocks.

IWU70

[iwu70]

Congrats to Conway (NPU), Roberts (EC) and Kelley (IWU) on weekly CCIW football honors.

IWU70

[Gregory Sager]

Thank you, Greg.  AndOne, this is a posting of brevity.

No commercials here, but the State Farm Hall opening was glorious!   IWU rocks.

IWU70

I'll say this for you, MS: You're a good sport.

[augiefan]

Game story in the QC Times.

Augustana head coach Rob Cushman said he warned his players in advance that they couldn't take Saturday's game lightly.

"I tried to tell our guys that's not the old North Park," Cushman said. "I'm not sure I got through to them."

What's funny about this is that the Augie of today is taking anyone lightly!   

[formerd3db]

Greg, you do realize, of course, that your complaint about my former classmate's 8-paragraph posts (don't recall any than ran more than 4 or 5, but oh well) was imbedded in (including quoted material) about a 20-25 paragraph post!

It was more of a complaint about content than about length. After all, I'm hardly one to be able to complain about the length of anybody else's posts. It's just as easy to scroll past an eight-paragraph post about IWU's Department of Widgets being moved to Whatever Hall than it is to scroll past a two-paragraph post about the same.

Do I attend Carthage and pay $44,350 a year for tuition, a double room, and a 13 meal a week plan, or do I attend Whitewater for $15,130 for tuition, a double room, and a 14 meal a week plan? Aren't some Carthage recruits going to UWW (or another UW school with similar costs)?   

In reference to Greg Sager's last entry above.

And, as I said, that hasn't been that much of a problem for Carthage in the past, because the school matched Illinois's in-state aid and allowed Carthage coaches to concentrate upon recruiting suburban Chicagolanders.

Hey Gregory:

I totally understand where you are coming from i.e. just reporting what you've heard.  It would be interesting to hear from someone there who would know more of the "inside details".  Yet, at the same time, I can't imagine their problem is any different than some of the other DIII schools that have faced this such as our Olivet and Kalamazoo in the MIAA in regards to some of the difficulties in recruiting athletes due to the financial aid requirements/availability and other involved policies.  Hopefully, they can get whatever needs to be rectified worked out.

It is a little different for Carthage than it is for Olivet or Kalamazoo, though. If Olivet or Kalamazoo drew most of their student-athletes from northern Indiana because Michigan had a D3-based system of University of Michigan branches, or because Indiana had a vast metropolis right across the border (picturing metro South Bend/Mishawaka/Elkhart with eight million people makes me chuckle ), then the analogy would be a bit more airtight.

That is true Gregory to an extent.  However, on the other hand, there is indeed somewhat of analogy in regards to the multitude of DII and NAIA scholarship football schools in our region with respect to the D3-based system of the U of Wisconsin that you are alluding to.  It may not be quite the same amount of effect, yet it is a factor and somewhat analogous to the situation. 

[Gregory Sager]

Game story in the QC Times.

Augustana head coach Rob Cushman said he warned his players in advance that they couldn't take Saturday's game lightly.

"I tried to tell our guys that's not the old North Park," Cushman said. "I'm not sure I got through to them."

What's funny about this is that the Augie of today is taking anyone lightly!   

Now, that's a post with brevity!

[Mr. Ypsi]

Game story in the QC Times.

Augustana head coach Rob Cushman said he warned his players in advance that they couldn't take Saturday's game lightly.

"I tried to tell our guys that's not the old North Park," Cushman said. "I'm not sure I got through to them."

What's funny about this is that the Augie of today is taking anyone lightly!   

Now, that's a post with brevity!

Yeah - I've tried to come up with a post with less than zero words, but so far I'm stymied.   I suppose I could quote someone, edit out some words, then add fewer words, but that seems like cheating.  And the POST would still have a positive count on words.  Where's Harry Potter when I need him?

I assume it was simply an error, but perhaps augiefan wanted to make his presence known, but was totally tongue-tied after losing to the East Vikings in Rock Island.

[Gregory Sager]

I had the same thought, because augiefan is one of the longest-tenured and most faithful of CCIW posters, both here and in the basketball room. I figured that that post was just a radar ping to let us know that he's still here.