FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[NCF]

Can someone clarify -- is not "taunting" considered an unsportsmanlike penalty? 

IWU70

Maybe, but there is quite a bit of taunting going on between players during the game. This is straight from the horses mouth.

[Kovo]

Can someone clarify -- is not "taunting" considered an unsportsmanlike penalty? 

IWU70

I looked up the rules, and the short answer appears to be yes. 

The question I have is whether the referee issued a warning (as was reported), or assessed unsportsmanlike conduct penalties on every single player in uniform (which has also been reported)?  It would be the first time I have witnessed a game in which over 150 unsportsmanlike conduct penalties were called in the game (much less before kick off).  And, if that is the case look at the video---there are probably 100 or so kids who didn't deserve their penalty.  Which begs the question, don't the rules require that the player commit the foul to be given the penalty?  Either way, whether our learned friend in a stripe shirt called all the penalties, or didn't follow the ejection rule, which is automatic by my understanding, it is just another example of what was a poorly officiated game.  I sure as heck hope that the crew that did the game will we somewhere other than Wheaton on Saturday!!

[iwu70]

Kovo, I was there when the initial flag was thrown, just along the sidelines in the SW corner of Wilder Field, and the initial announcement made, and the ref gave "unsportmanlike" to both teams, fully, for all the guys on the field in the initial confrontation, and in his announcement of the penalty he specially said that any further "unsportmanlike" infraction by any player would lead to ejection.  Again, I'm just reporting what I saw, what I heard.  And, on the Stanek personal foul, the lead ref again announced the penalty and said it was for "taunting." 

Yes, indeed, you would be well-served if this particular officiating crew was assigned elsewhere this coming Saturday, not at the Wheaton-North Central game. 

IWU70

[Gregory Sager]

Kovo, I was there when the initial flag was thrown, just along the sidelines in the SW corner of Wilder Field, and the initial announcement made, and the ref gave "unsportmanlike" to both teams, fully, for all the guys on the field in the initial confrontation, and in his announcement of the penalty he specially said that any further "unsportmanlike" infraction by any player would lead to ejection.  Again, I'm just reporting what I saw, what I heard.  And, on the Stanek personal foul, the lead ref again announced the penalty and said it was for "taunting." 

Yes, indeed, you would be well-served if this particular officiating crew was assigned elsewhere this coming Saturday, not at the Wheaton-North Central game.

Again, as per my link to the NCAA website last night, there are two distinct penalties of this type on the books now, one in dead-ball situations (a la the logo dustup) and a live-ball foul (which may have been what Stanek was called for). And, again, the Illinois Wesleyan statistical PBP does not indicate that the penalty called on Stanek was an unsportsmanlike-conduct infraction, while it does indicate that the pregame penalties were unsportsmanlike-conduct calls.

[shepherd]

Well I think uh well
the rest of us d3 CCIW fans would like to say:

[AndOne]

Congrats to the Players Of The Week:

Offensive--------Spencer Stanek--North Central QB
Defensive--------Shane Dierking- -North Central DB
Special Teams---Sam Cote--------Wheaton Kicker

This is Stanek's fourth weekly award this season, and Cote's third.

http://northcentralcardinals.com/news/2013/11/4/FB_1104135925.aspx
http://www.cciw.org/news/2013/11/4/FB_1104130142.aspx

[nccfac]

Well I think uh well
the rest of us d3 CCIW fans would like to say:

Love it. My favorite post since Saturday's games.

Also, go Cardinals bring home the "Bell".

[iwu70]

Love the moving "dead horse" message.  Is that "honest Abe" whacking that old grey mare?  (No comments please, I'm color blind).

Congrats to the weekly CCIW honorees.

IWU70

[shepherd]

Well I think uh well
the rest of us d3 CCIW fans would like to say:

Love it. My favorite post since Saturday's games.

Also, go Cardinals bring home the "Bell".

Its from one of Gregs post on the Michigan Board.  Us lesser mortals borrow from Greg to look as intelligent as him.  But I'm just spaying Rust-Oleum on a Ford Pinto.

[kiko]

Love the moving "dead horse" message.  Is that "honest Abe" whacking that old grey mare?  (No comments please, I'm color blind).

Congrats to the weekly CCIW honorees.

IWU70

IWU70 has that rare strain of colorblindness where you can only see green.   

[AndOne]

COMPARISON OF NORTH CENTRAL AND WHEATON BY NATIONAL RANKINGS

WHEATON

Total Offense   37    440.6
Rushing Offense   52    208.3
Passing Offense   88    232.4
Team Passing Efficiency   86    132.05
Scoring Offense   25    38.6
Total Defense   15    270.0
Rushing Defense   30    108.1
Passing Yards Allowed   33    161.9
Team Passing Efficiency Defense   31    101.56
Scoring Defense   T-15    13.5
Turnover Margin   T-165    -0.5
3rd Down Conversion Pct   28    0.461
4th Down Conversion Pct   T-45    0.583
3rd Down Conversion Pct Defense   45    0.323
4th Down Conversion Pct Defense   T-82    0.400
Red Zone Offense   18    0.879
Red Zone Defense   T-173    0.800
Net Punting   32    34.80
Punt Returns   136    7.36
Kickoff Returns   53    21.95
First Downs Offense   T-53    177
First Downs Defense   12    114
Fewest Penalties Per Game   T-214    7.88
Fewest Penalty Yards Per Game   211    72.13
Time of Possession   142       29:40

NORTH CENTRAL

Total Offense   5    527.8
Rushing Offense   24    251.0
Passing Offense   31    276.8
Team Passing Efficiency   3    183.20
Scoring Offense   10    44.4
Total Defense   9    251.4
Rushing Defense   22    99.5
Passing Yards Allowed   21    151.9
Team Passing Efficiency Defense   19    94.19
Scoring Defense   T-13    12.9
Turnover Margin   T-25    1.0
3rd Down Conversion Pct   6    0.520
4th Down Conversion Pct   T-115    0.462
3rd Down Conversion Pct Defense   5    0.237
4th Down Conversion Pct Defense   T-69    0.368
Red Zone Offense   15    0.884
Red Zone Defense   17    0.579
Net Punting   200    28.87
Punt Returns   T-60    9.89
Kickoff Returns   242    11.78
First Downs Offense   6    216
First Downs Defense   T-9    108
Fewest Penalties Per Game   195    7.50
Fewest Penalty Yards Per Game   T-145    60.25
Time of Possession   80       31:16

[iwu70]

Good one, Kiko -- yes, I think my color-blindness reverts to Green automatically!   

Can it be true that the Bears are beating the Pack tonight @Lambeau.  Mike Ditka was right . . .

IWU70

[shepherd]

COMPARISON OF NORTH CENTRAL AND WHEATON BY NATIONAL RANKINGS

WHEATON

Total Offense   37    440.6
Rushing Offense   52    208.3
Passing Offense   88    232.4
Team Passing Efficiency   86    132.05
Scoring Offense   25    38.6
Total Defense   15    270.0
Rushing Defense   30    108.1
Passing Yards Allowed   33    161.9
Team Passing Efficiency Defense   31    101.56
Scoring Defense   T-15    13.5
Turnover Margin   T-165    -0.5
3rd Down Conversion Pct   28    0.461
4th Down Conversion Pct   T-45    0.583
3rd Down Conversion Pct Defense   45    0.323
4th Down Conversion Pct Defense   T-82    0.400
Red Zone Offense   18    0.879
Red Zone Defense   T-173    0.800
Net Punting   32    34.80
Punt Returns   136    7.36
Kickoff Returns   53    21.95
First Downs Offense   T-53    177
First Downs Defense   12    114
Fewest Penalties Per Game   T-214    7.88
Fewest Penalty Yards Per Game   211    72.13
Time of Possession   142       29:40

NORTH CENTRAL

Total Offense   5    527.8
Rushing Offense   24    251.0
Passing Offense   31    276.8
Team Passing Efficiency   3    183.20
Scoring Offense   10    44.4
Total Defense   9    251.4
Rushing Defense   22    99.5
Passing Yards Allowed   21    151.9
Team Passing Efficiency Defense   19    94.19
Scoring Defense   T-13    12.9
Turnover Margin   T-25    1.0
3rd Down Conversion Pct   6    0.520
4th Down Conversion Pct   T-115    0.462
3rd Down Conversion Pct Defense   5    0.237
4th Down Conversion Pct Defense   T-69    0.368
Red Zone Offense   15    0.884
Red Zone Defense   17    0.579
Net Punting   200    28.87
Punt Returns   T-60    9.89
Kickoff Returns   242    11.78
First Downs Offense   6    216
First Downs Defense   T-9    108
Fewest Penalties Per Game   195    7.50
Fewest Penalty Yards Per Game   T-145    60.25
Time of Possession   80       31:16

This game is bigger than statistics and Wheatons 4th down percentage conversion advantage probably wont mean much.  Just saying.

Don't forget you get to come back to Wheaton next year also.   Just reminding you in case you forget.  

[AndOne]

Stats for informational purposes only Go Thunder.

As far as going coming to Wheaton again next year, its no big deal. Only 20 minutes from NCC so its like having another home game. 

[nccfac]

Stats for informational purposes only Go Thunder.

As far as going coming to Wheaton again next year, its no big deal. Only 20 minutes from NCC so its like having another home game. 

Also, we seem to play our best there. It's great being at the friendly confines of Wheaton's stadium. Can't wait.
The "Bell" is coming home!!