FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[izzy stradlin]

Congrats to all of the All Region selections!   Dansdill is as good a linebacker as I have seen in my 30+ years around this conference!   I will not be missing him!   

We will miss him.  In the UWW post-game press conference, the quote from Warhawks head coach Kevin Bullis was "that MIKE linebacker, Holy Buckets".

Do the Dansdills have any more kids? 

[Gregory Sager]

Millikin hired a new football coach.  It caught me off guard as I didn't realize Etherton had resigned after their last game.   I know we don't have much MU representation on here, but it seemed like Millikin had been better than they had been recently.

I thought the same thing. The coaching change doesn't bode well for MU consolidating that slight improvement into next season, although at least the new coach has more time with which to work on the recruiting trail than do most head coaches when they get hired. Dan Gritti did a nice job at Rhodes, but he's going to find out that the CCIW ain't the SAA.

Seems like there's been a certain amount of wheel-spinning going on down in Decatur.

[Mugsy]

Millikin hired a new football coach.  It caught me off guard as I didn't realize Etherton had resigned after their last game.   I know we don't have much MU representation on here, but it seemed like Millikin had been better than they had been recently.

I thought the same thing. The coaching change doesn't bode well for MU consolidating that slight improvement into next season, although at least the new coach has more time with which to work on the recruiting trail than do most head coaches when they get hired. Dan Gritti did a nice job at Rhodes, but he's going to find out that the CCIW ain't the SAA.

Seems like there's been a certain amount of wheel-spinning going on down in Decatur.

I thought they closed the Firestone Tire factory in Decatur in the early 2000's?   

[thunderdog]

We will miss him.  In the UWW post-game press conference, the quote from Warhawks head coach Kevin Bullis was "that MIKE linebacker, Holy Buckets".

LOL, I thought that was a great line by Coach Bullis and I wasn't exactly in a good mood when I watched the post-game press conference. It would appear that Coach Bullis has maintained that same high level of excellence/expectations set in motion by Lance Liepold.

It sure did get quiet in here vs what's happening on the OAC, WIAC, NWC, MIAC boards (rightfully so). Anyone want to make any predictions/share thoughts on the semi's?

I think both games boil down to size/power (St T & UWW) vs athleticism/speed (Linfield & UMU). I'm taking the athleticism/speed in both games. After watching the 4th quarter of last week's UMHB @ Linfield game (there was some ridiculous speed on the field in this game), I'll go against the grain in the Linfield at St Thomas game, calling for Linfield to win 31-28. As for the UWW @ UMU game, I think the talent at the skill positions for UMU (in addition to home field) will be enough to take down the reigning champs, 38-31 (although I'll be rooting for a UWW win, from a Thunder perspective)

Anyone catch the UWO @ UWW game last week? Between UWO's 2 RB's #4 Dylan Hecker and #28 Devon Linzenmeyer, I'll just steal a line from Kevin Bullis, "... Holy Buckets..."

[02 Warhawk]

We will miss him.  In the UWW post-game press conference, the quote from Warhawks head coach Kevin Bullis was "that MIKE linebacker, Holy Buckets".

LOL, I thought that was a great line by Coach Bullis and I wasn't exactly in a good mood when I watched the post-game press conference. It would appear the Coach Bullis has maintained that same high level of excellence/expectations set in motion by Lance Liepold.

It sure did get quiet in here vs what's happening on the OAC, WIAC, NWC, MIAC boards (rightfully so). Anyone want to make any predictions/share thoughts on the semi's?

I think both games boil down to size/power (St T & UWW) vs athleticism/speed (Linfield & UMU). I'm taking the athleticism/speed in both games. After watching the 4th quarter of last week's UMHB @ Linfield game (there was some ridiculous speed on the field in this game), I'll go against the grain in the Linfield at St Thomas game, calling for Linfield to win 31-28. As for the UWW @ UMU game, I think the talent at skill positions for UMU (in addition to home field) will be enough to take down the reigning champs, 38-31.

Anyone catch the UWO @ UWW game last week? Between UWO's 2 RB's #4 Dylan Hecker and #28 Devon Linzenmeyer, I'll just steal a line from Kevin Bullis, "... Holy Buckets..."

You still think that after watching UWW's size/power on offense against the speed/athleticism of Wheaton's defense?

[thunderdog]

You still think that after watching UWW's size/power on offense against the speed/athleticism of Wheaton's defense?

Well, to be perfectly honest, I haven't seen UMU play a full game outside of what's available on YouTube, so my assessment of UMU is incomplete/limited at best. But from what I have seen, UMU's talent on offense at QB, RB (debatable vs Sola), and WR is at another level in comparison to the Thunder (as much as it pains me to say that). I've also gone on record as stating that the Wheaton secondary played rather poorly against UWW. As a whole, I'd say the front 7 did what needed to be done in stopping Ratliffe (outside of the 3rd and 24 obviously), but we just didn't come to play when it came to stopping the pass. QB Chris Nelson, WR Joe Worth, and WR Marcus Hudson made way too many plays, I'd be surprised if they have the same level of success vs UMU secondary. I hope I'm proven wrong, like I said, I'm rooting for UWW.

Also keep in mind that you're talking to someone that has seen Wheaton play against UMU 6 (or is it 7?) times over the past 20 years, most of those games were sound defeats, so my mind is still programmed as UMU being the "crem de la crem". That's not meant to be an insult to the UWW squad in any way, I'm well aware that UWW has defeated UMU in the last 5. But my eyes have only seen a full game of UWW vs Wheaton one time, and as USee stated, we lost, but we were not outmatched. So take that for what it's worth. Mostly just trying to keep the conversation going here in CCIW land... can't keep up with the tempo of the other 4 conferences boards.

[Gregory Sager]

Mostly just trying to keep the conversation going here in CCIW land... can't keep up with the tempo of the other 4 conferences boards.

Face the facts, dude. The CCIW's collective season is over. This board always goes from footballs to mothballs once the last CCIW team is eliminated. It'll pick up again somewhat in the spring once recruitment becomes a topic, usually around May or so. Of course, there's always the chance that emma17 will start jonesing for an off-season argument about D3's Pool C methodology that he'll expect us CCIW football board denizens to satisfy.

If you're that desperate to keep this board active, we can always use the off-season for a CCIW football board learning opportunity:

[USee]

We will miss him.  In the UWW post-game press conference, the quote from Warhawks head coach Kevin Bullis was "that MIKE linebacker, Holy Buckets".

LOL, I thought that was a great line by Coach Bullis and I wasn't exactly in a good mood when I watched the post-game press conference. It would appear the Coach Bullis has maintained that same high level of excellence/expectations set in motion by Lance Liepold.

It sure did get quiet in here vs what's happening on the OAC, WIAC, NWC, MIAC boards (rightfully so). Anyone want to make any predictions/share thoughts on the semi's?

I think both games boil down to size/power (St T & UWW) vs athleticism/speed (Linfield & UMU). I'm taking the athleticism/speed in both games. After watching the 4th quarter of last week's UMHB @ Linfield game (there was some ridiculous speed on the field in this game), I'll go against the grain in the Linfield at St Thomas game, calling for Linfield to win 31-28. As for the UWW @ UMU game, I think the talent at skill positions for UMU (in addition to home field) will be enough to take down the reigning champs, 38-31.

Anyone catch the UWO @ UWW game last week? Between UWO's 2 RB's #4 Dylan Hecker and #28 Devon Linzenmeyer, I'll just steal a line from Kevin Bullis, "... Holy Buckets..."

You still think that after watching UWW's size/power on offense against the speed/athleticism of Wheaton's defense?

No. I don't.

UWW 34
UMU 27

[USee]

You still think that after watching UWW's size/power on offense against the speed/athleticism of Wheaton's defense?

Well, to be perfectly honest, I haven't seen UMU play a full game outside of what's available on YouTube, so my assessment of UMU is incomplete/limited at best. But from what I have seen, UMU's talent on offense at QB, RB (debatable vs Sola), and WR is at another level in comparison to the Thunder (as much as it pains me to say that). I've also gone on record as stating that the Wheaton secondary played rather poorly against UWW. As a whole, I'd say the front 7 did what needed to be done in stopping Ratliffe (outside of the 3rd and 24 obviously), but we just didn't come to play when it came to stopping the pass. QB Chris Nelson, WR Joe Worth, and WR Marcus Hudson made way too many plays, I'd be surprised if they have the same level of success vs UMU secondary. I hope I'm proven wrong, like I said, I'm rooting for UWW.

Also keep in mind that you're talking to someone that has seen Wheaton play against UMU 6 (or is it 7?) times over the past 20 years, most of those games were sound defeats, so my mind is still programmed as UMU being the "crem de la crem". That's not meant to be an insult to the UWW squad in any way, I'm well aware that UWW has defeated UMU in the last 5. But my eyes have only seen a full game of UWW vs Wheaton one time, and as USee stated, we lost, but we were not outmatched. So take that for what it's worth. Mostly just trying to keep the conversation going here in CCIW land... can't keep up with the tempo of the other 4 conferences boards.

TDog

You have 0-6 disease.  This year's Wheaton team was the best team we have ever had.  We had the dudes to compete.  We put up 475 yds on UWW the most of any team all season (UWO had 444), our D shut them out in the second half and we still lost by 14.  They then went on the road again and did mostly the same thing to another top 10 team that has a very different style than us.  No one is beating this UWW team except UWW. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Mostly just trying to keep the conversation going here in CCIW land... can't keep up with the tempo of the other 4 conferences boards.

Face the facts, dude. The CCIW's collective season is over. This board always goes from footballs to mothballs once the last CCIW team is eliminated. It'll pick up again somewhat in the spring once recruitment becomes a topic, usually around May or so. Of course, there's always the chance that emma17 will start jonesing for an off-season argument about D3's Pool C methodology that he'll expect us CCIW football board denizens to satisfy.

If you're that desperate to keep this board active, we can always use the off-season for a CCIW football board learning opportunity:

Once the last CCIW football team is eliminated, as Greg said, football-only posters mostly go into hibernation; the rest of us head to the men's basketball board (which already heated up a month or more ago), and a handful of us to the women's basketball board, and later on a few of us talk on the baseball board.

(Only a couple of us were seen on the soccer boards, and I haven't checked out any of the other sports' boards.)

[thunderdog]

Gregory and Mr Y,
I should have been more specific in my request to "keep conversation alive" in here... I was really trying to see if anyone has continued to watch the d3 playoff games and get their opinions on the remaining games/teams. I'm well aware that this board slows dramatically once there are no CCIW representatives left... I've just found myself much more intrigued with the playoffs, overall speaking, this year more so than other years. Admittedly, it's probably my "how does Wheaton stack up vs the remaining teams?" that drives my curiousity, but besides this, I'm just becoming a bigger fan of d3 football over even d1. I was able to watch most of the UWW @ UWO game and the last quarter of the UMHB @ Linfield game. They were both awesome games, highly competitive, highly skilled, tons of size, power, and speed. I think it's just awesome that we can stream these games (yes I'm aware that Saturday's games are on ESPN3) now and continue to watch the playoffs with our own eyes. If you've already moved on to other sports, I think you'll be missing 2 incredible games this Saturday...

USee,
I'm hoping its a case of 0-6 disease, but from what I've seen (and it's limited) I'll reserve my right to respectfully disagree when it comes to UMU. As far as UWW goes, I fully agree that Wheaton's game against the Warhawks was closer than the 14 point margin indicates. If 1, 2, or all 3 of the following:
1) bad decision by AB2 to throw on 3rd and 6 at the UWW, down 7-14, resulting in INT
2) ill-advised decision to take kickoff out of the end zone down 14-28 with 1 min left till half
3) "loose" interpretation of a batted ball by the ref "Steve"  up 7-0
...don't happen, we would have had a real barn-burner on our hands. Yes Wheaton outplayed UWW in the 2nd half, but the damage was done. Bottom line, we still lost by 14...
I guess I also disagree with your assessment that UWW is unbeatable. I could argue that if UWO got better play from their QB (overthrew a wide open WR on a fly pattern that would have easily gone for 6), didn't miss a PAT (and got tackled at the 1/2 yard line on the subsequent 2 pt attempt to potentially tie the game 31-31), they "could've, should've, would've" taken UWW to overtime or beaten them in regulation. So what does your eye test tell you when comparing UWO to UMU? Mine says:
UMU QB >>>> UWO QB
UMU RBs < UWO RBs (those 2 dudes at UWO are the real deal)
UMU WR >>> UWO WRs
UMU OLine << UWO OLine (this is possibly leaning UWO even more)

So if UWO put up 29 (mostly just via the run), what leads me to think that a more balanced attack of UMU wont put up at least that same 29 if not more?

I hope I'm wrong, this 0-6 disease is just downright nasty...

[USee]

My Union had one of the best QBs ever against UWW last year.  Went into the game having only thrown 5 picks in 479 attempts.  He threw 4 picks against UWW. This year Taurice Scott has thrown 5 INT in 353 attempts.  Taurice Scott is not better than Kevin Burke.  He may not throw 4 picks but he isn't better.

[Mr. Ypsi]

thunderdog, I have definitely not moved totally on (which is likely to kill me in bball pickems ).  I think both semis are essentially coin-flips.  I'm going with raw power: UWW and UST.  (But going 0-2 on my picks would not surprise me in the least.)  I think we have a playoff year where the four best teams in D3 are the four semi-finalists (though UWO, UMHB, and Wheaton are also worthy contenders for those spots in the poll).

Unless football is your ONLY sport of interest, come join us on the other boards - this one will be a ghost town for several months.

[NCF]

Complete domination by Mount today. Hopefully, the naysayers will stop now. I hope Mount can win it all. Now on to the most important game ....Army-Navy. Go NAVY.😃😃

[USee]

The rumors or Purple Raider demise have been greatly exaggerated.

Holy Buckets!