FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[USee]

It's awfully quiet in here considering the following:

Since 2002, 2 teams have dominated the CCIW, North Central and Wheaton. In the last 15 years, only once (Augustana in 2005) did NCC or WC fail to win at least a share of the CCIW crown. Here's a look at the 2 schools since 2002:

I still protest this.

Can I ask you to expand on this? What do you mean? Augie beat NCC that year 20-17 and went undefeated in CCIW play. Is there something in the game itself you're still protesting?

Yep. If memory serves it was a phantom offsides call that led to the winning FG by Augie. 

[Mugsy]

It's awfully quiet in here considering the following:

Since 2002, 2 teams have dominated the CCIW, North Central and Wheaton. In the last 15 years, only once (Augustana in 2005) did NCC or WC fail to win at least a share of the CCIW crown. Here's a look at the 2 schools since 2002:

I still protest this.

Can I ask you to expand on this? What do you mean? Augie beat NCC that year 20-17 and went undefeated in CCIW play. Is there something in the game itself you're still protesting?

Ah... now you've done it.  Queue up the controversial play that led to the Augie win.

[New Tradition]

It's awfully quiet in here considering the following:

Since 2002, 2 teams have dominated the CCIW, North Central and Wheaton. In the last 15 years, only once (Augustana in 2005) did NCC or WC fail to win at least a share of the CCIW crown. Here's a look at the 2 schools since 2002:

I still protest this.

Can I ask you to expand on this? What do you mean? Augie beat NCC that year 20-17 and went undefeated in CCIW play. Is there something in the game itself you're still protesting?

We played them second to last game of the year at Erickson. Cold. Wet. Rainy. Both undefeated in CCIW play going in. Augie D was good. Really good. Our D held them in check as they held us in check. There were 2 bad calls that prevented the OT that should have happened.

It was tied 17's late in the 4th and Augie had the ball near midfield. We held them on a 3rd down, and one of our d-linemen was hit late, after the whistle. He tripped and fell onto the pile  as a result of the hit, and he was flagged rather than the guy who hit him, which kept Augie's drive alive in the first place.

Then, with 3 seconds left on the clock, Augie goes for a FG for the win. We had Adam Pennington coming off the edge. He was an All American sprinter on our track team. One of our best sprinters ever in program history, still in the track record books. He got an awesome jump and blocked the field goal. I have the film. It's on our season highlight DVD in slow motion. In no way shape or form did he leave early. But some ref decided he was too cold and wet to ref an overtime. Once the ball was already on the ground and we were celebrating, he decided to throw a flag.  They moved the ball up 5 yards and gave Augie an untimed down and they hit it for the win.

I could stomach if they beat us in overtime. I can't stomach what happened. Granted, we should have never left the game in the hands of the officials, but that was especially bad.

11 years later I still feel sick thinking about it.

[New Tradition]

It's awfully quiet in here considering the following:

Since 2002, 2 teams have dominated the CCIW, North Central and Wheaton. In the last 15 years, only once (Augustana in 2005) did NCC or WC fail to win at least a share of the CCIW crown. Here's a look at the 2 schools since 2002:

I still protest this.

Can I ask you to expand on this? What do you mean? Augie beat NCC that year 20-17 and went undefeated in CCIW play. Is there something in the game itself you're still protesting?

We played them second to last game of the year at Erickson. Cold. Wet. Rainy. Both undefeated in CCIW play going in. Augie D was good. Really good. Our D held them in check as they held us in check. There were 2 bad calls that prevented the OT that should have happened.

It was tied 17's late in the 4th and Augie had the ball near midfield. We held them on a 3rd down, and one of our d-linemen was hit late, after the whistle. He tripped and fell onto the pile  as a result of the hit, and he was flagged rather than the guy who hit him, which kept Augie's drive alive in the first place.

Then, with 3 seconds left on the clock, Augie goes for a FG for the win. We had Adam Pennington coming off the edge. He was an All American sprinter on our track team. One of our best sprinters ever in program history, still in the track record books. He got an awesome jump and blocked the field goal. I have the film. It's on our season highlight DVD in slow motion. In no way shape or form did he leave early. But some ref decided he was too cold and wet to ref an overtime. Once the ball was already on the ground and we were celebrating, he decided to throw a flag.  They moved the ball up 5 yards and Augie hit it for the win.

I could stomach if they beat us in overtime. I can't stomach what happened. Granted, we should have never left the game in the hands of the officials, but that was especially bad.

11 years later I still feel sick thinking about it.

Obviously we can never know what would have  happened, but we had a great second half and all the momentum. I liked our chances in OT.

[New Tradition]

It's awfully quiet in here considering the following:

Since 2002, 2 teams have dominated the CCIW, North Central and Wheaton. In the last 15 years, only once (Augustana in 2005) did NCC or WC fail to win at least a share of the CCIW crown. Here's a look at the 2 schools since 2002:

I still protest this.

Can I ask you to expand on this? What do you mean? Augie beat NCC that year 20-17 and went undefeated in CCIW play. Is there something in the game itself you're still protesting?

We played them second to last game of the year at Erickson. Cold. Wet. Rainy. Both undefeated in CCIW play going in. Augie D was good. Really good. Our D held them in check as they held us in check. There were 2 bad calls that prevented the OT that should have happened.

It was tied 17's late in the 4th and Augie had the ball near midfield. We held them on a 3rd down, and one of our d-linemen was hit late, after the whistle. He tripped and fell onto the pile  as a result of the hit, and he was flagged rather than the guy who hit him, which kept Augie's drive alive in the first place.

Then, with 3 seconds left on the clock, Augie goes for a FG for the win. We had Adam Pennington coming off the edge. He was an All American sprinter on our track team. One of our best sprinters ever in program history, still in the track record books. He got an awesome jump and blocked the field goal. I have the film. It's on our season highlight DVD in slow motion. In no way shape or form did he leave early. But some ref decided he was too cold and wet to ref an overtime. Once the ball was already on the ground and we were celebrating, he decided to throw a flag.  They moved the ball up 5 yards and Augie hit it for the win.

I could stomach if they beat us in overtime. I can't stomach what happened. Granted, we should have never left the game in the hands of the officials, but that was especially bad.

11 years later I still feel sick thinking about it.

Obviously we can never know what would have  happened, but we had a great second half and all the momentum. I liked our chances in OT.

What's more, UMU had lost to Ohio Northern. We had the #1 regional ranking in the North going into that game. Cost us a potential 1 seed. We drew Capital and Rocky Pentello in the first round. This was our program's first ever time in the playoffs and we lost to Capital by 2, 21-19. Capital then gave UMU  all they could handle in a close one in round 3, only losing by a field goal, 34-31, and UMU won it all. Makes you wonder how that shakes down with a different draw given our nonexistent playoff experience. Would've been nice to have someone that wasn't the #5 team in the country first to get our feet wet.

[Augie6]

It's awfully quiet in here considering the following:

Since 2002, 2 teams have dominated the CCIW, North Central and Wheaton. In the last 15 years, only once (Augustana in 2005) did NCC or WC fail to win at least a share of the CCIW crown. Here's a look at the 2 schools since 2002:

I still protest this.

Can I ask you to expand on this? What do you mean? Augie beat NCC that year 20-17 and went undefeated in CCIW play. Is there something in the game itself you're still protesting?

We played them second to last game of the year at Erickson. Cold. Wet. Rainy. Both undefeated in CCIW play going in. Augie D was good. Really good. Our D held them in check as they held us in check. There were 2 bad calls that prevented the OT that should have happened.

It was tied 17's late in the 4th and Augie had the ball near midfield. We held them on a 3rd down, and one of our d-linemen was hit late, after the whistle. He tripped and fell onto the pile  as a result of the hit, and he was flagged rather than the guy who hit him, which kept Augie's drive alive in the first place.

Then, with 3 seconds left on the clock, Augie goes for a FG for the win. We had Adam Pennington coming off the edge. He was an All American sprinter on our track team. One of our best sprinters ever in program history, still in the track record books. He got an awesome jump and blocked the field goal. I have the film. It's on our season highlight DVD in slow motion. In no way shape or form did he leave early. But some ref decided he was too cold and wet to ref an overtime. Once the ball was already on the ground and we were celebrating, he decided to throw a flag.  They moved the ball up 5 yards and Augie hit it for the win.

I could stomach if they beat us in overtime. I can't stomach what happened. Granted, we should have never left the game in the hands of the officials, but that was especially bad.

11 years later I still feel sick thinking about it.

Obviously we can never know what would have  happened, but we had a great second half and all the momentum. I liked our chances in OT.

What's more, UMU had lost to Ohio Northern. We had the #1 regional ranking in the North going into that game. Cost us a potential 1 seed. We drew Capital and Rocky Pentello in the first round. This was our program's first ever time in the playoffs and we lost to Capital by 2, 21-19. Capital then gave UMU  all they could handle in a close one in round 3, only losing by a field goal, 34-31, and UMU won it all. Makes you wonder how that shakes down with a different draw given our nonexistent playoff experience. Would've been nice to have someone that wasn't the #5 team in the country first to get our feet wet.

That's a whole lot of "what ifs" based on one play in the regular season finale!

[New Tradition]

That's a whole lot of "what ifs" based on one play in the regular season finale!

Haunted me many sleepless nights. You tend to extrapolate in those situations.

[USee]

Reminds me of the Wheaton @Augie game in 1986 (sorry Mugsy). Some very fortuitus calls allowed Augie to escape with an 18-17 victory on a FG with 6 seconds left on their way to a 4th straight National title.

[badgerwarhawk]

Even really good teams need a little luck along the way.

[Mugsy]

Reminds me of the Wheaton @Augie game in 1986 (sorry Mugsy). Some very fortuitus calls allowed Augie to escape with an 18-17 victory on a FG with 6 seconds left on their way to a 4th straight National title.

Figured this might come up.  I had actually typed a very similar post, but then cancelled sending it.  Didn't want to pile on and moan about another close loss to Augie.  Plus this was an all too painful memory, as I was directly in front of the "fortuitous" call (next to the referee) and have no idea how he could make the call he did.

Shoving memory back into the box...   

[devildog29]

Greetings all. Been quite awhile since I've posted here as grad school and other commitments have taken priority for much of my time, though I still try to peruse the comments regularly. I know the focus right now is on a big game this weekend, but after a recent conversation with another former Titan player and friend, I thought I'd throw a change of topic out there if anyone has any thoughts, while acknowledging this is nothing more than a fun exercise in pure speculation.

With Norm sitting at 30 years on sidelines, one would think his retirement has to be getting close.  Who would be some of the names you wouldn't be surprised to hear get the job when he decides to call it a career?  I think my friend and I both settled on Rob Zvonar as a logical choice, and I threw out Billy Dicken as a possible darkhorse. Anyone care to amuse me with any speculative prognostications?

[Augie6]

Reminds me of the Wheaton @Augie game in 1986 (sorry Mugsy). Some very fortuitus calls allowed Augie to escape with an 18-17 victory on a FG with 6 seconds left on their way to a 4th straight National title.

Figured this might come up.  I had actually typed a very similar post, but then cancelled sending it.  Didn't want to pile on and moan about another close loss to Augie.  Plus this was an all too painful memory, as I was directly in front of the "fortuitous" call (next to the referee) and have no idea how he could make the call he did.

Shoving memory back into the box...   

Come on Mugsy, it was a clear catch!     I wasn't going to bring it up, either, but since Usee did...

[New Tradition]

Greetings all. Been quite awhile since I've posted here as grad school and other commitments have taken priority for much of my time, though I still try to peruse the comments regularly. I know the focus right now is on a big game this weekend, but after a recent conversation with another former Titan player and friend, I thought I'd throw a change of topic out there if anyone has any thoughts, while acknowledging this is nothing more than a fun exercise in pure speculation.

With Norm sitting at 30 years on sidelines, one would think his retirement has to be getting close.  Who would be some of the names you wouldn't be surprised to hear get the job when he decides to call it a career?  I think my friend and I both settled on Rob Zvonar as a logical choice, and I threw out Billy Dicken as a possible darkhorse. Anyone care to amuse me with any speculative prognostications?

Brad Spencer, current OC at NCC.  He and his family have extremely strong ties to NCC, so I don't know if this is a possibility.  He showed up as a player in 2000 (re-wrote the record books) and hasn't left since, continuing on as a receivers coach, and eventually the OC now that Jeff Thorne has taken over the team.  I haven't spoken with Brad and am completely in the dark on what his wishes and goals are, but I do think he'd make an excellent head coach, and IWU would be lucky to have him.  He's young, hungry, and brilliant.

[USee]

Reminds me of the Wheaton @Augie game in 1986 (sorry Mugsy). Some very fortuitus calls allowed Augie to escape with an 18-17 victory on a FG with 6 seconds left on their way to a 4th straight National title.

Figured this might come up.  I had actually typed a very similar post, but then cancelled sending it.  Didn't want to pile on and moan about another close loss to Augie.  Plus this was an all too painful memory, as I was directly in front of the "fortuitous" call (next to the referee) and have no idea how he could make the call he did.

Shoving memory back into the box...   

Come on Mugsy, it was a clear catch!     I wasn't going to bring it up, either, but since Usee did...

There was another call before that which was equally egregious as I recall.

And New Tradition, I think the over/under on when you stop feeling sick about it and settle into a genuine disgust is around 15 years.

[New Tradition]

Reminds me of the Wheaton @Augie game in 1986 (sorry Mugsy). Some very fortuitus calls allowed Augie to escape with an 18-17 victory on a FG with 6 seconds left on their way to a 4th straight National title.

Figured this might come up.  I had actually typed a very similar post, but then cancelled sending it.  Didn't want to pile on and moan about another close loss to Augie.  Plus this was an all too painful memory, as I was directly in front of the "fortuitous" call (next to the referee) and have no idea how he could make the call he did.

Shoving memory back into the box...   

Come on Mugsy, it was a clear catch!     I wasn't going to bring it up, either, but since Usee did...

There was another call before that which was equally egregious as I recall.

And New Tradition, I think the over/under on when you stop feeling sick about it and settle into a genuine disgust is around 15 years.

Another 4 or so to go, then.  Though I'm not sure I buy that logic given Mugsy's response.