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Quote from: Augie6 on January 15, 2017, 01:37:52 AM
For NCC posters - There was some discussion on the Edgy Tim boards, that Coach Thorne was leaving NCC to take a position on Tim Lester's staff at WMU.  Can anyone confirm this?
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Quote from: Augie6 on January 15, 2017, 01:37:52 AM
For NCC posters - There was some discussion on the Edgy Tim boards, that Coach Thorne was leaving NCC to take a position on Tim Lester's staff at WMU.  Can anyone confirm this?

Lots of talk about it.   There's definitely a chance that happens.   ???
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Quote from: CardinalAlum on January 15, 2017, 12:59:13 PM
Quote from: Augie6 on January 15, 2017, 01:37:52 AM
For NCC posters - There was some discussion on the Edgy Tim boards, that Coach Thorne was leaving NCC to take a position on Tim Lester's staff at WMU.  Can anyone confirm this?

Lots of talk about it.   There's definitely a chance that happens.   ???

FootballScoop.com reported that Lester offered him the job of QBs coach but it hasn't been finalized. 

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That would be a blow to NCC.  But hiring Lester was a very smart (and perhaps obvious) move on Western Michigan's part.
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Quote from: CardinalAlum on January 15, 2017, 05:25:14 PM
All is well.  Jeff Thorne not going anywhere.

https://twitter.com/cardocjt/status/820756152199815168

Well, at least it led to a few posts on the board at one of the quietest times in the off-season.
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Quote from: Augie6 on January 15, 2017, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on January 15, 2017, 05:25:14 PM
All is well.  Jeff Thorne not going anywhere.

https://twitter.com/cardocjt/status/820756152199815168

Well, at least it led to a few posts on the board at one of the quietest times in the off-season.

True.  Heard it was seriously under consideration.  Would've been a major loss.   Go Cards!
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izzy stradlin

Quote from: CardinalAlum on January 15, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
Quote from: Augie6 on January 15, 2017, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on January 15, 2017, 05:25:14 PM
All is well.  Jeff Thorne not going anywhere.

https://twitter.com/cardocjt/status/820756152199815168

Well, at least it led to a few posts on the board at one of the quietest times in the off-season.

True.  Heard it was seriously under consideration.  Would've been a major loss.   Go Cards!

I'm not that surprised he didn't take the position coach job at a MAC school (although I would think most coaches would make this move).   Lester moved from CCIW HC to D1 position coach originally but it was at a Power 5 school.    Had Lester offered him the OC slot.........

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Quote from: izzy stradlin on January 15, 2017, 06:42:12 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on January 15, 2017, 06:30:38 PM
Quote from: Augie6 on January 15, 2017, 06:14:27 PM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on January 15, 2017, 05:25:14 PM
All is well.  Jeff Thorne not going anywhere.

https://twitter.com/cardocjt/status/820756152199815168

Well, at least it led to a few posts on the board at one of the quietest times in the off-season.

True.  Heard it was seriously under consideration.  Would've been a major loss.   Go Cards!

I'm not that surprised he didn't take the position coach job at a MAC school (although I would think most coaches would make this move).   Lester moved from CCIW HC to D1 position coach originally but it was at a Power 5 school.    Had Lester offered him the OC slot.........

Well... that was my immediate reaction.  If they had offered him the OC position instead of QB coach, would it have been a different answer?  That would be much more difficult to turn down if he has any aspirations outside of DIII.
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wally_wabash

Quite a boon for NCC, really.  Last year's position coaches at WMU were in the $90-100K range, which is the higher end of what D3 HCs get.  Maybe comparable salaries for Thorne, but as I've said all over the place, getting on a staff at an FBS (even a G5 school) taps you in to that economy.  Tim Lester's path is a perfect example- D3 HC, to FBS position coach, to FBS G5 HC and an $800K per annum base salary in four seasons.  That's why we see guys go and that's why North Central is more fortunate than I think most realize today. 
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Mugsy

Quote from: wally_wabash on January 16, 2017, 10:50:09 AM
Quite a boon for NCC, really.  Last year's position coaches at WMU were in the $90-100K range, which is the higher end of what D3 HCs get.  Maybe comparable salaries for Thorne, but as I've said all over the place, getting on a staff at an FBS (even a G5 school) taps you in to that economy.  Tim Lester's path is a perfect example- D3 HC, to FBS position coach, to FBS G5 HC and an $800K per annum base salary in four seasons.  That's why we see guys go and that's why North Central is more fortunate than I think most realize today.

But... if he was at least remotely interested to the point of listening to the offer, is it a temporary reprieve?  If an OC position comes along at a FBS (G5) school, will he continue to say no?  He is an outstanding, young coach.  If he has any interest in upper division coaching, other offers will come along.
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wally_wabash

Quote from: Mugsy on January 16, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 16, 2017, 10:50:09 AM
Quite a boon for NCC, really.  Last year's position coaches at WMU were in the $90-100K range, which is the higher end of what D3 HCs get.  Maybe comparable salaries for Thorne, but as I've said all over the place, getting on a staff at an FBS (even a G5 school) taps you in to that economy.  Tim Lester's path is a perfect example- D3 HC, to FBS position coach, to FBS G5 HC and an $800K per annum base salary in four seasons.  That's why we see guys go and that's why North Central is more fortunate than I think most realize today.

But... if he was at least remotely interested to the point of listening to the offer, is it a temporary reprieve?  If an OC position comes along at a FBS (G5) school, will he continue to say no?  He is an outstanding, young coach.  If he has any interest in upper division coaching, other offers will come along.

Maybe?  But wouldn't you prefer to have Thorne for one more season or two or three?  If it is me, I want the best HC I can have for as long as I can have the best HC- understanding that the best HCs are going to be upwardly mobile.  You have to go into this with both eyes wide open on that front. 
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Mugsy

Quote from: wally_wabash on January 16, 2017, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on January 16, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 16, 2017, 10:50:09 AM
Quite a boon for NCC, really.  Last year's position coaches at WMU were in the $90-100K range, which is the higher end of what D3 HCs get.  Maybe comparable salaries for Thorne, but as I've said all over the place, getting on a staff at an FBS (even a G5 school) taps you in to that economy.  Tim Lester's path is a perfect example- D3 HC, to FBS position coach, to FBS G5 HC and an $800K per annum base salary in four seasons.  That's why we see guys go and that's why North Central is more fortunate than I think most realize today.

But... if he was at least remotely interested to the point of listening to the offer, is it a temporary reprieve?  If an OC position comes along at a FBS (G5) school, will he continue to say no?  He is an outstanding, young coach.  If he has any interest in upper division coaching, other offers will come along.

Maybe?  But wouldn't you prefer to have Thorne for one more season or two or three?  If it is me, I want the best HC I can have for as long as I can have the best HC- understanding that the best HCs are going to be upwardly mobile.  You have to go into this with both eyes wide open on that front.

Well... as a former Wheaton player, my answer to this particular instance would be no.  The sooner he leaves the better!   ;D
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wally_wabash

Quote from: Mugsy on January 16, 2017, 06:57:47 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 16, 2017, 02:36:37 PM
Quote from: Mugsy on January 16, 2017, 02:04:27 PM
Quote from: wally_wabash on January 16, 2017, 10:50:09 AM
Quite a boon for NCC, really.  Last year's position coaches at WMU were in the $90-100K range, which is the higher end of what D3 HCs get.  Maybe comparable salaries for Thorne, but as I've said all over the place, getting on a staff at an FBS (even a G5 school) taps you in to that economy.  Tim Lester's path is a perfect example- D3 HC, to FBS position coach, to FBS G5 HC and an $800K per annum base salary in four seasons.  That's why we see guys go and that's why North Central is more fortunate than I think most realize today.

But... if he was at least remotely interested to the point of listening to the offer, is it a temporary reprieve?  If an OC position comes along at a FBS (G5) school, will he continue to say no?  He is an outstanding, young coach.  If he has any interest in upper division coaching, other offers will come along.

Maybe?  But wouldn't you prefer to have Thorne for one more season or two or three?  If it is me, I want the best HC I can have for as long as I can have the best HC- understanding that the best HCs are going to be upwardly mobile.  You have to go into this with both eyes wide open on that front.

Well... as a former Wheaton player, my answer to this particular instance would be no.  The sooner he leaves the better!   ;D

Which verifies my point- if your rival is happy about some kind of major change or even the idea of a major change, it's not good for your own program.
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