FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

Sked:
North Park @ Augustana, 1 pm
North Central @ Carroll, 1 pm
Millikin @ Carthage, 1 pm
Illinois Wesleyan @ Elmhurst, 1 pm

Wheaton has the bye.

Massey:
Augustana 24, North Park 13 (AC 81%, NPU 19%)
North Central 45, Carroll 14 (NCC 99% CU 1%)
Carthage 38, Millikin 24 (CC 86%, MU 14%)
Illinois Wesleyan 22, Elmhurst 0 (IWU 98%, EC 2%)

[AO]

In a sense, griping about what a newspaper has or doesn't have is like griping about the behavior of dinosaurs after the asteroid has already hit the Earth.

But also go beyond newspapers.  The Tribune is an easy target, but across all media in Chicago, there's no D3 coverage.  You don't hear any segments on radio, it's not part of the local tv sportscasts, etc.  By comparison, the WCCO radio blasts out St Thomas games on Saturday afternoons.  Does is draw huge ratings?  Heck no, but it gives a high profile to D3 athletics, which is great. 

I was at a Gopher game a couple years ago and during a timeout, the huge Jumbotron gave updated MIAC scores.  A shame the same doesn't happen in the 3rd largest media market in the country.  I get it though...Cubs, Bears, Hawks, etc. dominate.

Apples and oranges. Chicago has 3.3m television households. The Twin Cities has 1.7m television households. The Chicago media market contains seven D1 schools, although it actually adds up to nine in terms of coverage, since Chicago media treats Illinois and Notre Dame as local schools and gives them more coverage than is allotted to the geographically proximate D1s (Northwestern excepted). The Twin Cities has a grand total of one D1 school. Plus, Chicago media has one more major-league pro team to cover than does its Twin Cities counterpart.

It's also a bit of apples and oranges when you compare football attendance MIAC vs CCIW and the Tommie-Johnnie Rivalry vs Wheaton-North Central.  The D2 schools in Minnesota get less coverage than the MIAC.

I still think that if you had a Reusse and Mike Max in Chicago you'd see more coverage of D3 and if the Chicago writers/radio guys who only care about the big sports moved to Minnesota we'd see less D3 coverage here. 

[Mr. Ypsi]

Sked:
North Park @ Augustana, 1 pm
North Central @ Carroll, 1 pm
Millikin @ Carthage, 1 pm
Illinois Wesleyan @ Elmhurst, 1 pm

Wheaton has the bye.

Massey:
Augustana 24, North Park 13 (AC 81%, NPU 19%)
North Central 45, Carroll 14 (NCC 99% CU 1%)
Carthage 38, Millikin 24 (CC 86%, MU 14%)[/i]
Illinois Wesleyan 22, Elmhurst 0 (IWU 98%, EC 2%)

While I DO think Carthage is the favorite (especially at home and WHAT a defense!), I'm surprised Massey has them THAT heavily favored.  Has he totally forgotten their results against Wheaton?  I'd call it more 60%-40% Carthage.  A Millikin win would surprise me, but certainly not shock me.

[Gregory Sager]

Um, you do realize that Ken Massey's predictions are made by a computer program, right, Chuck?

[AndOne]

Sked:
North Park @ Augustana, 1 pm
North Central @ Carroll, 1 pm
Millikin @ Carthage, 1 pm
Illinois Wesleyan @ Elmhurst, 1 pm

Wheaton has the bye.

Massey:
Augustana 24, North Park 13 (AC 81%, NPU 19%)
North Central 45, Carroll 14 (NCC 99% CU 1%)
Carthage 38, Millikin 24 (CC 86%, MU 14%)
Illinois Wesleyan 22, Elmhurst 0 (IWU 98%, EC 2%)

Math was never my best subject, but can somebody please explain to me how Elmhurst can have any chance of winning if they are expected to score zero points?   

[Mr. Ypsi]

Um, you do realize that Ken Massey's predictions are made by a computer program, right, Chuck?

Yeah, I left that kinda vague.  Did he forget to enter the Wheaton games into his computer?!

[Gregory Sager]

Sked:
North Park @ Augustana, 1 pm
North Central @ Carroll, 1 pm
Millikin @ Carthage, 1 pm
Illinois Wesleyan @ Elmhurst, 1 pm

Wheaton has the bye.

Massey:
Augustana 24, North Park 13 (AC 81%, NPU 19%)
North Central 45, Carroll 14 (NCC 99% CU 1%)
Carthage 38, Millikin 24 (CC 86%, MU 14%)
Illinois Wesleyan 22, Elmhurst 0 (IWU 98%, EC 2%)

Math was never my best subject, but can somebody please explain to me how Elmhurst can have any chance of winning if they are expected to score zero points?   

The computer obviously rounded down. If the 'jays manage to score their full predicted allotment of 0.423 points on Saturday, expect their odds of winning to rise significantly.

[lmitzel]

Sked:
North Park @ Augustana, 1 pm
North Central @ Carroll, 1 pm
Millikin @ Carthage, 1 pm
Illinois Wesleyan @ Elmhurst, 1 pm

Wheaton has the bye.

Massey:
Augustana 24, North Park 13 (AC 81%, NPU 19%)
North Central 45, Carroll 14 (NCC 99% CU 1%)
Carthage 38, Millikin 24 (CC 86%, MU 14%)
Illinois Wesleyan 22, Elmhurst 0 (IWU 98%, EC 2%)

Math was never my best subject, but can somebody please explain to me how Elmhurst can have any chance of winning if they are expected to score zero points?   

The computer obviously rounded down. If the 'jays manage to score their full predicted allotment of 0.423 points on Saturday, expect their odds of winning to rise significantly.

This begs the question: if their full predicted score was a tad higher, say, 0.523, would they round up to 1, thus shifting the game to Canada, or would they keep it at 0 and only round up when the predicted score topped 1?

[Gregory Sager]

My facetious earlier response aside, Ken's computer program appears to be constructed in such a way as to create only likely football scores. I've never seen a team predicted on Massey to score one point (impossible) or four points (extraordinarily unlikely), the two possible football scores that would reveal a poorly-designed program. And if you look at the predictions from week to week, they commonly turn up very football-friendly numbers that are combinations of sevens and threes. F'rinstance, the only predictions this week for the CCIW that don't consist of all TD-plus-PAT sevens and either one FG three or none are North Park's predicted 13 (which is a very common final score in college football, reflecting either a TD-plus-PAT and two FGs or a TD-plus-PAT and a TD-with-missed-PAT) and Illinois Wesleyan's predicted 22 (the computer thinks that Norm Eash is going to go for a two-point conversion for no reason at all following one of IWU's touchdowns on Saturday, which means that Ken's computer is obviously acquainted with Norm Eash ).

[HAMBO]

I also believe that Carthage should be favorite to beat Millikin because the game is at Carthage.  Millikin's underclassmen based team (except for Stepina) is rather unpredictable but capable of beating anybody.  They are very talented, very fast, and mistake prone.  Since the Big Blue have been much better in the 2nd half than in the first, a close game at half ... lookout Carthage.

[kiko]

Sked:
North Park @ Augustana, 1 pm
North Central @ Carroll, 1 pm
Millikin @ Carthage, 1 pm
Illinois Wesleyan @ Elmhurst, 1 pm

Wheaton has the bye.

Massey:
Augustana 24, North Park 13 (AC 81%, NPU 19%)
North Central 45, Carroll 14 (NCC 99% CU 1%)
Carthage 38, Millikin 24 (CC 86%, MU 14%)
Illinois Wesleyan 22, Elmhurst 0 (IWU 98%, EC 2%)

Math was never my best subject, but can somebody please explain to me how Elmhurst can have any chance of winning if they are expected to score zero points?   

The computer obviously rounded down. If the 'jays manage to score their full predicted allotment of 0.423 points on Saturday, expect their odds of winning to rise significantly.

If they score exactly 0.423 points, I would be okay with handing them the league's Pool 'A' berth this year...

[iwu70]

EC up over IWU at the half 15-13. 

IWU'70

[Mr. Ypsi]

Titans finally woke up.  Now up 26-15 late in the third.

[iwu70]

Yup, big big second half, now up 40-15.   Jack Healy with 3 TD catches.

8-1 -- only MU to go now.  9-1 in sight.

IWU'70

[USee]

8-1 -- only MU to go now.  9-1 in sight.

IWU'70

So is 8-2