FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Captainred81]

Hi Folks, from the OAC.... John Carroll and BW use Boxcast and it works great.  Not much buffering, if any at all.  Mount has some crazy contract with Sportstime Ohio and work awesome, but it cost $10.  I've watched a handful on YouTube, and I prefer boxcast. IMO

[Mr. Ypsi]

I'd recommend tweeting your dissatisfaction at @stretchinternet so they can see it.

I did this, for whatever that will be worth.  Hated missing almost all of that game today.  (And it has happened before a few times with Stretch.)

https://twitter.com/IWUhoopscom/status/1178052899689172994?s=20

I got a nice note back from IWU's new SID, saying she is going to explore options.  IWU's Stretch contract is up at the end of this school year.

Is there a consensus on what the best streaming platform is?  I'd love to give her that intel if there is agreement.

That's GREAT news!!  I tried watching for about 15 minutes on Saturday - I think I saw TWO plays!  I switched over to the Tigers (yeah, they are the worst team in baseball, but their entertaining!) and just never came back.

But the one thing that never happened was the swirling circle of despair.  What happened yesterday with Stretch has happened before and, I'll bet a dollar, will happen again this season.  Their platform has become so reliably unreliable, that whenever I click a video link and it shoots me into a Stretch portal, I just assume that I'm probably not going to see significant chunks of the game.

I'll second that. No streaming-platform service comes close to the number of buffering problems that Stretch has. Carroll, which also uses Stretch, seems to have more issues with it than even Illinois Wesleyan does. I tried watching a Carthage @ Carroll soccer match on Saturday evening while switching back and forth to a Wheaton @ Elmhurst soccer match on YouTube, and the Stretch-platformed match at Schaefer kept buffering for up to 30 seconds at a time when I'd switch over to it, while the YouTube-platformed match at Langhorst had no problem instantly giving me the picture and audio when I switched over to it.

It's not the first time that games from Carroll have dropped out due to buffering, either -- and I've had to deal with "the swirling circle of despair" even in situations when a game at Carroll was the only one that I was trying to watch. I'll occasionally get these problems with IWU-hosted contests, too, but it's particularly bad at Carroll.

For some unknown reason, Augustana -- the CCIW's other Stretch school -- doesn't seem to have these problems. Maybe Mr. Stretch is a Lutheran.

He must not be a very good one, since it is the IWU-Augustana game we're griping about!

[Pat Coleman]

I do know that the Stretch people are serious about making improvements, and once they understood that there was a more widespread problem, they went to work and things did get better. I was able to watch the end of this game and multiple others Saturday on Stretch without issue.

[USee]

I do know that the Stretch people are serious about making improvements, and once they understood that there was a more widespread problem, they went to work and things did get better. I was able to watch the end of this game and multiple others Saturday on Stretch without issue.

I tried to watch the 4th Qtr of this game and while it was better, it was still choppy and missed some action. I was watching from a mobile device

[Titan Q]

I do know that the Stretch people are serious about making improvements, and once they understood that there was a more widespread problem, they went to work and things did get better. I was able to watch the end of this game and multiple others Saturday on Stretch without issue.

I was able to watch the very end of the game without a problem - maybe the last 2 minutes.

[Gregory Sager]

He must not be a very good one, since it is the IWU-Augustana game we're griping about!

Yes, but I've never had a problem watching any stream from Augustana itself.

[thunderdog]

The 2019 version of the Little Brass Bell game will feature the #1 Scoring and Total Offense of North Central vs the #1 Scoring and Total Defense of Wheaton. I'll go out on a limb and say this has to be a first ever in the history of CCIW matchups. Can anyone think of another example?

[CardinalAlum]

The 2019 version of the Little Brass Bell game will feature the #1 Scoring and Total Offense of North Central vs the #1 Scoring and Total Defense of Wheaton. I'll go out on a limb and say this has to be a first ever in the history of CCIW matchups. Can anyone think of another example?

Without looking back at it, I would have to think this exact scenario has played out before, Wheaton is usually in the top two in those categories on defense and NCC is usually in that vicinity on offense.  Either way, it is hopefully the great game that it looks like it could be.   I look forward to hearing USee's take on the game.  I believe NCC has to contain the Wheaton running game.   Wheaton RB looks like a beast.  That's a huge key to the game in my opinion because there's a huge trickle down effect there.  Time to bring the Bell back home to South DuPage!  Let's go Cards!

[USee]

The 2019 version of the Little Brass Bell game will feature the #1 Scoring and Total Offense of North Central vs the #1 Scoring and Total Defense of Wheaton. I'll go out on a limb and say this has to be a first ever in the history of CCIW matchups. Can anyone think of another example?

Without looking back at it, I would have to think this exact scenario has played out before, Wheaton is usually in the top two in those categories on defense and NCC is usually in that vicinity on offense.  Either way, it is hopefully the great game that it looks like it could be.   I look forward to hearing USee's take on the game.  I believe NCC has to contain the Wheaton running game.   Wheaton RB looks like a beast.  That's a huge key to the game in my opinion because there's a huge trickle down effect there.  Time to bring the Bell back home to South DuPage!  Let's go Cards!

CardAlum,

I think you misunderstood Thunderdog's post. Currently, through 3 games, NCC is the #1 total offense and scoring team in the nation and Wheaton is the #1 total defense and scoring defense in the nation. That probably hasn't happened in our conference very often, if ever. I can't speak to whether it's happened nationally, I have to assume it has with the top teams going at it in the playoffs each year.

[Mugsy]

The 2019 version of the Little Brass Bell game will feature the #1 Scoring and Total Offense of North Central vs the #1 Scoring and Total Defense of Wheaton. I'll go out on a limb and say this has to be a first ever in the history of CCIW matchups. Can anyone think of another example?

Without looking back at it, I would have to think this exact scenario has played out before, Wheaton is usually in the top two in those categories on defense and NCC is usually in that vicinity on offense.  Either way, it is hopefully the great game that it looks like it could be.   I look forward to hearing USee's take on the game.  I believe NCC has to contain the Wheaton running game.   Wheaton RB looks like a beast.  That's a huge key to the game in my opinion because there's a huge trickle down effect there.  Time to bring the Bell back home to South DuPage!  Let's go Cards!

CardAlum,

I think you misunderstood Thunderdog's post. Currently, through 3 games, NCC is the #1 total offense and scoring team in the nation and Wheaton is the #1 total defense and scoring defense n the nation. That probably hasn't happened in our conference very often, if ever. I can't speak to whether it's happened nationally, I have to assume it has with the top teams going at it in the playoffs each year.

Mid-80's during Augie's 4 straight championship run when their defense was so dominant, and Air Bishop was putting up gaudy passing numbers that are routine today?

[Augie6]

The 2019 version of the Little Brass Bell game will feature the #1 Scoring and Total Offense of North Central vs the #1 Scoring and Total Defense of Wheaton. I'll go out on a limb and say this has to be a first ever in the history of CCIW matchups. Can anyone think of another example?

Without looking back at it, I would have to think this exact scenario has played out before, Wheaton is usually in the top two in those categories on defense and NCC is usually in that vicinity on offense.  Either way, it is hopefully the great game that it looks like it could be.   I look forward to hearing USee's take on the game.  I believe NCC has to contain the Wheaton running game.   Wheaton RB looks like a beast.  That's a huge key to the game in my opinion because there's a huge trickle down effect there.  Time to bring the Bell back home to South DuPage!  Let's go Cards!

CardAlum,

I think you misunderstood Thunderdog's post. Currently, through 3 games, NCC is the #1 total offense and scoring team in the nation and Wheaton is the #1 total defense and scoring defense n the nation. That probably hasn't happened in our conference very often, if ever. I can't speak to whether it's happened nationally, I have to assume it has with the top teams going at it in the playoffs each year.

Mid-80's during Augie's 4 straight championship run when their defense was so dominant, and Air Bishop was putting up gaudy passing numbers that are routine today?

For the 1983 season, Elmhurst, Wheaton and Augie were the top 3 offenses in the nation at the end of the season (I don't remember in which order).   Augie was in the top ten on the defensive side.  Not sure where it would have lined up when the teams actually played each other.

[CardinalAlum]

The 2019 version of the Little Brass Bell game will feature the #1 Scoring and Total Offense of North Central vs the #1 Scoring and Total Defense of Wheaton. I'll go out on a limb and say this has to be a first ever in the history of CCIW matchups. Can anyone think of another example?

Without looking back at it, I would have to think this exact scenario has played out before, Wheaton is usually in the top two in those categories on defense and NCC is usually in that vicinity on offense.  Either way, it is hopefully the great game that it looks like it could be.   I look forward to hearing USee's take on the game.  I believe NCC has to contain the Wheaton running game.   Wheaton RB looks like a beast.  That's a huge key to the game in my opinion because there's a huge trickle down effect there.  Time to bring the Bell back home to South DuPage!  Let's go Cards!

CardAlum,

I think you misunderstood Thunderdog's post. Currently, through 3 games, NCC is the #1 total offense and scoring team in the nation and Wheaton is the #1 total defense and scoring defense in the nation. That probably hasn't happened in our conference very often, if ever. I can't speak to whether it's happened nationally, I have to assume it has with the top teams going at it in the playoffs each year.

I stand corrected.  I absolutely read that wrong!  I went to North Central!  😂

[CardinalAlum]

The 2019 version of the Little Brass Bell game will feature the #1 Scoring and Total Offense of North Central vs the #1 Scoring and Total Defense of Wheaton. I'll go out on a limb and say this has to be a first ever in the history of CCIW matchups. Can anyone think of another example?

Without looking back at it, I would have to think this exact scenario has played out before, Wheaton is usually in the top two in those categories on defense and NCC is usually in that vicinity on offense.  Either way, it is hopefully the great game that it looks like it could be.   I look forward to hearing USee's take on the game.  I believe NCC has to contain the Wheaton running game.   Wheaton RB looks like a beast.  That's a huge key to the game in my opinion because there's a huge trickle down effect there.  Time to bring the Bell back home to South DuPage!  Let's go Cards!

CardAlum,

I think you misunderstood Thunderdog's post. Currently, through 3 games, NCC is the #1 total offense and scoring team in the nation and Wheaton is the #1 total defense and scoring defense n the nation. That probably hasn't happened in our conference very often, if ever. I can't speak to whether it's happened nationally, I have to assume it has with the top teams going at it in the playoffs each year.

Mid-80's during Augie's 4 straight championship run when their defense was so dominant, and Air Bishop was putting up gaudy passing numbers that are routine today?

Mugsy sighting....Bell Week is officially here!   

[Captainred81]

IMO...  The team with the better defense seems to shut/slow down the team with the better offense.  That being said, I think NCC really needs to hold up on defense and not give anything away easy.  The offense will struggle at times, something they are not used to, and the D will be back on the field more often.  Any turnovers will be huge in this game, especially if they come with field position.  Punting and returns will also be a deciding factor. 

I think NCC wins by 3, 23-20.  Whoever controls the ball more, and moves the chains is going to win this game.

[thunderdog]

For the 1983 season, Elmhurst, Wheaton and Augie were the top 3 offenses in the nation at the end of the season (I don't remember in which order).   Augie was in the top ten on the defensive side.  Not sure where it would have lined up when the teams actually played each other.

Now THAT^ is impressive