FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[79jaybird]

(another) one of Norm's shortcomings  makes you really appreciate how humble coaches like Mike Swider, the late Tim Rucks, and Doug Neibuhr are/were.   In talking to these folks, I never sensed any arrogance or felt like they weren't worth discussing (x) topics about. 

I don't think Cardinal Nation is worried about how or what Norm thinks.  They decided it on the field in fine fashion and are thinking playoffs.  Not  what "excuse" Norm will scratch and claw to find.

[gryfalia]

Swider is a great guy, and was a great teacher when I was at Wheaton.  He didn't even razz me too hard when waking me up after class and everyone else had already left.  Stupid movies.

[79jaybird]

Swider's wife and one of my hockey teammates wife work together.  They are all very special people and appreciate the core values of life.  If I had a son, (2 daughters) I would love for him to go play for a mentor like Mike.

[USee]

New RR are out:

https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/second-regional-ranking

1 Mount Union 9-0
2 Wheaton 9-0
3 North Central 8-1
4 John Carroll 8-1
5 Hope 8-1
6 Aurora 8-1
7 Wabash 7-2
8 Olivet 8-1
9 Hanover 8-1
10 Baldwin Wallace 7-2

Also of note is Monmouth appeared in the West rankings which gives Wheaton another RRO result and bolsters their 1 seed resume. JCU is nipping perilously close to NCC's heels for Pool C position in North.

[USee]

It sure seems like the North RAC is positining JCU to leap NCC in the rankings if they beat BW this week. JCU's SOS is going to bump up and NCC's will take a hit. Also, the RRO data will skew toward JCU and away from NCC with BW staying ranked.

While I can't imagine the North putting JCU ahead of NCC on any kind of rational grounds, they just might do it, which would be curtains for NCC's ability to make the field IMO.

And if UWW were to lose Saturday, total chaos,  as multiple top 10 ranked teams (which has no bearing on the selection criteria) may not make it into the field.

[CardinalAlum]

It sure seems like the North RAC is positining JCU to leap NCC in the rankings if they beat BW this week. JCU's SOS is going to bump up and NCC's will take a hit. Also, the RRO data will skew toward JCU and away from NCC with BW staying ranked.

While I can't imagine the North putting JCU ahead of NCC on any kind of rational grounds, they just might do it, which would be curtains for NCC's ability to make the field IMO.

And if UWW were to lose Saturday, total chaos,  as multiple top 10 ranked teams (which has no bearing on the selection criteria) may not make it into the field.

I have a really bad feeling on this one.  I hope I'm wrong.  It's ridiculous that this is an argument.  😡. NCC not getting in would be a joke. 

[USee]

It sure seems like the North RAC is positining JCU to leap NCC in the rankings if they beat BW this week. JCU's SOS is going to bump up and NCC's will take a hit. Also, the RRO data will skew toward JCU and away from NCC with BW staying ranked.

While I can't imagine the North putting JCU ahead of NCC on any kind of rational grounds, they just might do it, which would be curtains for NCC's ability to make the field IMO.

And if UWW were to lose Saturday, total chaos,  as multiple top 10 ranked teams (which has no bearing on the selection criteria) may not make it into the field.

I have a really bad feeling on this one.  I hope I'm wrong.  It's ridiculous that this is an argument.  😡. NCC not getting in would be a joke.

I would still be shocked if they didn't get in and I can't imagine it happening. My posts are just to sound the general alarm that something is brewing in the criteria that could be unprecedented. My expectation is that NCC will be in field on Sunday.

[79jaybird]

North Central staying home because of ______   reason(s) would be a joke. 

Hoping the CCIW can field (2) teams when it's all said and done. 

[robertgoulet]

It sure seems like the North RAC is positining JCU to leap NCC in the rankings if they beat BW this week. JCU's SOS is going to bump up and NCC's will take a hit. Also, the RRO data will skew toward JCU and away from NCC with BW staying ranked.

While I can't imagine the North putting JCU ahead of NCC on any kind of rational grounds, they just might do it, which would be curtains for NCC's ability to make the field IMO.

And if UWW were to lose Saturday, total chaos,  as multiple top 10 ranked teams (which has no bearing on the selection criteria) may not make it into the field.

Highest ranked team ever to miss the field is ______ ?

[USee]

In a first of it's kind, the NCAA (presumably after reviewing these boards!) issued a correction the North Regional Rankings and Hope is now #4 with JCU #5. Cardinal fans can take a deep breath.

1 Mount Union 9-0
2 Wheaton 9-0
3 North Central 8-1
4 Hope 8-1
5 John Carroll 8-1
6 Aurora 8-1
7 Wabash 7-2
8 Olivet 8-1
9 Hanover 8-1
10 Baldwin Wallace 7-2

[thunderdog]

It sure seems like the North RAC is positining JCU to leap NCC in the rankings if they beat BW this week. JCU's SOS is going to bump up and NCC's will take a hit. Also, the RRO data will skew toward JCU and away from NCC with BW staying ranked.

While I can't imagine the North putting JCU ahead of NCC on any kind of rational grounds, they just might do it, which would be curtains for NCC's ability to make the field IMO.

And if UWW were to lose Saturday, total chaos,  as multiple top 10 ranked teams (which has no bearing on the selection criteria) may not make it into the field.

Highest ranked team ever to miss the field is ______ ?

Not my research, but I found this on the pool C discussion board (courtesy of poster "Baldini")

"Highest ranked teams not to make playoffs:

2018 - #15 St. Thomas
2017 - #21 Concordia-Moorhead
2016 - #24 St. Lawrence
2015 - #14 UW-Platteville
2014 - #15 North Central
2013 - #11 UW-Oshkosh
2012 - #13 UW-Platteville
2011 - #12 Cal Lutheran
2010 - #20 Pacific Lutheran
2009 - #13 Ohio Northern"

At #6, NCC would be re-writing history by almost 50%!!!

[thunderdog]

I'm also of the opinion, that in the end, common sense prevails and NCC gets one of the 5 at-large spots

[tf37]

I'm also of the opinion, that in the end, common sense prevails and NCC gets one of the 5 at-large spots

I agree.

NCC has a similar profile as Mount had in 2016 - https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2016/final-regional-ranking - (there was six pool c slots that year)

The talk then was Mount passed the 'eye test', which from my perspective so does NCC this year.

[thunderdog]

It sure seems like the North RAC is positining JCU to leap NCC in the rankings if they beat BW this week. JCU's SOS is going to bump up and NCC's will take a hit. Also, the RRO data will skew toward JCU and away from NCC with BW staying ranked.

While I can't imagine the North putting JCU ahead of NCC on any kind of rational grounds, they just might do it, which would be curtains for NCC's ability to make the field IMO.

And if UWW were to lose Saturday, total chaos,  as multiple top 10 ranked teams (which has no bearing on the selection criteria) may not make it into the field.

Highest ranked team ever to miss the field is ______ ?

Not my research, but I found this on the pool C discussion board (courtesy of poster "Baldini")

"Highest ranked teams not to make playoffs:

2018 - #15 St. Thomas
2017 - #21 Concordia-Moorhead
2016 - #24 St. Lawrence
2015 - #14 UW-Platteville
2014 - #15 North Central
2013 - #11 UW-Oshkosh
2012 - #13 UW-Platteville
2011 - #12 Cal Lutheran
2010 - #20 Pacific Lutheran
2009 - #13 Ohio Northern"

At #6, NCC would be re-writing history by almost 50%!!!

Actually, #6 NCC and even more so #9 Bethel, and #10 JCU could be left out of the playoffs. Wow, this is getting crazy. I think it's time for the NCAA to revise its faulty criteria...

[Pat Coleman]

https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2019/first-projected-bracket