FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[CardinalAlum]

I thought the Elmhurst Defense played well enough to give them a shot against a very strong Thunder Team.  But even the best teams will eventually "give in" when their offense turns the ball over, or can't score in the red zone.

JB,
Ok, I guess I am wondering without being at the game, that the EC defense "played well enough to give them a shot".  They gave up 27 points(not counting the INT against for a TD), and almost 400 yards of offense.  

All right, 2 weeks to go before the Playoffs and 3 teams are battling for a spot.  I am all in favor of 2 CCIW teams getting in, but to be quite honest, I wonder if we will get 2 teams in.  The OAC is by far, much stronger this year.  I hope the CCIW does get 2 teams in, but you never know.
Suddenly Carthage has become a real player in this race.  Carthage is no cakewalk for any team and especially at home. 
What happened to Augie?  Guess we might see Jimmy Barnes take off the AUGIE logo again on the helmets this week? 

If NCC and Wheaton win out, there is NO WAY that Wheaton doesn't get a bid as well.  Carthage is a solid team, but they come to Naperville.  The CCIW site is wrong.  Augie was completely outplayed and outcoached!  That's what happened to them.  
 

[cardinaldad]

They are still a good team and they played with class even when the game was over in the second half.

Agreed NCC_alum62. It was outstanding seeing each team help each other off of the ground once in a while. Both teams played with class. There was only one minor altercation. I guess that can be expected in the heat of the battle of this magnatude.

[dansand]

Let's talk some hypotheticals. Let's say Augie doesn't get it done in Decatur. Now, assuming both Wheaton and North Central win out, the Thunder are the AQ. Where does NCC stand at 8-2? Augie in 2002 was the last two-loss non AQ in the CCIW and they didn't make the playoffs. Neither did 2001 co-champ IWU with two losses. In 2000, the Titans had only one loss and were tri-champs and still didn't make it. I think with the playoff expansion, the Cards would be pretty safe. Anyone think differently?

[TrueAugieAlum]

Well, the monkey coachs were out there in full force!  And they did not have the defense to back them up this time.
Augie got what it deserves with these morans running the offense.

Do they have such tunnel vision that they cannot figure out that running the ball would not win the game?

And why force all the players too travel just to stand on the side lines?

The offense could not contain the defense, so what do they  do?  Keep the same lineup in and make no changes!!!!!!!!!

The offensive coachs are a sham!

And some of you are still hoping that Augie wins conference!  I hope they lose and the AD sees that it is time for a change.

[cardinaldad]

Let's talk some hypotheticals. Let's say Augie doesn't get it done in Decatur. Now, assuming both Wheaton and North Central win out, the Thunder are the AQ. Where does NCC stand at 8-2? Augie in 2002 was the last two-loss non AQ in the CCIW and they didn't make the playoffs. Neither did 2001 co-champ IWU with two losses. In 2000, the Titans had only one loss and were tri-champs and still didn't make it. I think with the playoff expansion, the Cards would be pretty safe. Anyone think differently?

So, if the Cards win out and Augie loses in Decatur (which I don't think will happen), the Cards are not the AQ? This is all so confusing..........and interesting!

[Cardinal_skip]

Let's talk some hypotheticals. Let's say Augie doesn't get it done in Decatur. Now, assuming both Wheaton and North Central win out, the Thunder are the AQ. Where does NCC stand at 8-2? Augie in 2002 was the last two-loss non AQ in the CCIW and they didn't make the playoffs. Neither did 2001 co-champ IWU with two losses. In 2000, the Titans had only one loss and were tri-champs and still didn't make it. I think with the playoff expansion, the Cards would be pretty safe. Anyone think differently?

So, if the Cards win out and Augie loses in Decatur (which I don't think will happen), the Cards are not the AQ? This is all so confusing..........and interesting!

You are correct. And remember, Illinois Wesleyan is tough to beat at home and Carthage will "bring the house" on defense in the last game of the year. This isn't over by a long shot.

It would be great for the Cardinals to get a playoff spot and travel to Concordia Wisconsin and avenge the season-opening loss.
Cardinal Skip

[cardinaldad]

Also  North Central last won the CCIW in 1960.  Before that the Cards won the CCIW in 1946 and

JB, what the heck does this have to do with Elmhurst not playing up to expectations? Like stated earlier, you must have had a bad experience with NCC at some point!

[dansand]

Let's talk some hypotheticals. Let's say Augie doesn't get it done in Decatur. Now, assuming both Wheaton and North Central win out, the Thunder are the AQ. Where does NCC stand at 8-2? Augie in 2002 was the last two-loss non AQ in the CCIW and they didn't make the playoffs. Neither did 2001 co-champ IWU with two losses. In 2000, the Titans had only one loss and were tri-champs and still didn't make it. I think with the playoff expansion, the Cards would be pretty safe. Anyone think differently?

So, if the Cards win out and Augie loses in Decatur (which I don't think will happen), the Cards are not the AQ? This is all so confusing..........and interesting!

First of all, I hope you're right about the Millikin game. But if Augie does lose (or vs. North Park for that matter ), then the three-way tie becomes a two-way tie in which Wheaton has the advantage based on their head-to-head win.

[cardinaldad]

Let's talk some hypotheticals. Let's say Augie doesn't get it done in Decatur. Now, assuming both Wheaton and North Central win out, the Thunder are the AQ. Where does NCC stand at 8-2? Augie in 2002 was the last two-loss non AQ in the CCIW and they didn't make the playoffs. Neither did 2001 co-champ IWU with two losses. In 2000, the Titans had only one loss and were tri-champs and still didn't make it. I think with the playoff expansion, the Cards would be pretty safe. Anyone think differently?

So, if the Cards win out and Augie loses in Decatur (which I don't think will happen), the Cards are not the AQ? This is all so confusing..........and interesting!

First of all I hope, you're right about the Millikin game. But if Augie does lose (or vs. North Park for that matter ), then the three-way tie becomes a two-way tie in which Wheaton has the advantage based on their head-to-head win.

After I posted, I realized that. Thanks

[cardinaldad]

Wow, my karma is dropping!!!!!!!

[CardinalAlum]

Wow, my karma is dropping!!!!!!!

I gave you a positive and someone knocked you shortly after. 

[cardinaldad]

Wow, my karma is dropping!!!!!!!

I gave you a positive and someone knocked you shortly after. 

Thanks! And I've tried to be nice. Someone must not like something I've said. HHMMMM!

[79jaybird]

CardinalDad- I was responding to earlier posters who were wondering when NC won CCIW Titles.  1960 (last time) and 46-47.
As a former player and play-by-play guy for the last 6 years, today's Elmhurst team (especially the defense) is 100 times better than the teams I played on in the late 90's.  Those of you who think Elmhurst is not "improving" don't see the small improvements they make each year.  Ex.  beating IWU 2 of the last 3, knocking off Millikin in Decatur last year, those were 2 teams that killed us when I played.
The point here is that while the Bluejays appear to be heading for a 4th place finish, they are on track to finish 7-3 which would be the first time they reach 7 wins since 1985 (7-2, 6-2 CCIW).
"Bad experience at North Central?"  No,  not in the slightest. In fact, I have good relations with coaches/people at each and every CCIW school. 
Now that Elmhurst has played the top 3 teams this year,  I can say that the team that impressed me on offense and defense (together) the most was Wheaton.  The Thunder just took control late in the game.
When it was 7-0 and 14-0 early in the 3rd, the EC offense had a chance to put some points on the board, but couldn't... which led to the Thunder just dominating the majority of the 3rd and all of the 4th quarters.

[79jaybird]

Mr. Ypsi, it appears Hope is on track to win the MIAA.  They still have 2 big games ahead of them, but If I was to gamble, I would say that the Dutch will win the MIAA. We could see a rematch of the Hope/Wheaton game at McCully as a first rounder.

[ncc58]

Wow, my karma is dropping!!!!!!!

I'll give you three guesses ...

All I know is that everytime I disagree with 79Jaybird, I take a karma hit.