FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[CardinalAlum]

No, I have lurked here long enough to know what a fun loving, unassuming, warm hearted person you are. So no, no offense taken.

I think i'm going to be ill! 

[diehardfan]

No, I have lurked here long enough to know what a fun loving, unassuming, warm hearted person you are. So no, no offense taken.

I think i'm going to be ill! 

[Titanwatcher]

No, I have lurked here long enough to know what a fun loving, unassuming, warm hearted person you are. So no, no offense taken.

I think i'm going to be ill! 

Diehard, apparently they don't teach sarcasm @ the Naperville school

[matblake]

No, I have lurked here long enough to know what a fun loving, unassuming, warm hearted person you are. So no, no offense taken.

I think i'm going to be ill! 

Diehard, apparently they don't teach sarcasm @ the Naperville school

Nice one! Bloomington piling on!  8)

[NCC_alum62]

No, I have lurked here long enough to know what a fun loving, unassuming, warm hearted person you are. So no, no offense taken.

I think i'm going to be ill! 

Diehard, apparently they don't teach sarcasm @ the Naperville school

Nope, they just teach us how to beat IWU


I'm just foolin, actually I was wondering if there was any word out of the titan camp about recruits. They've taken a couple from my old H.S. the last couple of years...any word on new guys that could make an impact?

[Titanwatcher]

What high school did you go to? I am sure you read about Brien Rooney coming to Bloomington on this board. He is an excellent prospect. If I hear anything else I will be happy to share it with you and the board.

As far as beating IWU, that is a recent class @ NCC.we will see if class performance continues to justify keeping the course.

[NCC_alum62]

Well put, well put.

I went to Whitney Young.

Jaryee Maples was a kid after my time, and they had an OL as well but he may have quit...its a magent school so the IWU coaches like the academic success the kids allready have before they come even though its CPS

[NCC_alum62]

Actually I love any story about a CPS (Chicago Public Schools) kid in the CCIW and seeing how they're doing. I think its an under-recruited market by D-III.

More recently CPS schools have started showing better against thier suburban counterparts, it used to be anytime a CPS school went to playoffs it was one and done 49-7 in many cases, now we've had some teams do much better and winning a couple games here and there.

We don't get much respect, but we have to earn it and they're starting to build a few programs here and there.

[Tailgater]

I'm not credible for analyzing the best defenses in the CCIW over the past 20 years, but I'd like to suggest that the 2004 Carthage defense should at least make the team picture. Certainly not the best, but in contention for a high seating

Tailgater, do you have any stats on the '04 defense?

Thanks Diehard you did my homework for me an it is much apprecited!

Titanwatcher:
Here is a quick summary of the 2004 Carthage defense ranking in the CCIW that year.

Scoring Defense - #1
Pass Defense - #2
Turnover Margin - #1 at +30 (may have led the nation in this category?)
Rushing Defense - #1
Pass Defense Efficiency - #1
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion - #1
Opponent Red Zone Defense - #1
Total Defense - #1

Now you'd have to compair actual numbers for those categories with other team defenses in various years to see how Carthage ranks with other #1 CCIW season defenses, but none-the-less the 2004 Carthage "D" was mighty impressive and deserves mention in a conversation about the best CCIW defenses.

[Tailgater]

I guess you could also add

Interceptions - #1  (31 was nationally ranked)
fumbles recovered - #1 (19)
opponents first downs - #1

The Defense was about turnovers and  defensive scoring, but they were productive in other areas as well.

[79jaybird]

"However we are talking about a program that just tied for the conference FOR THE FIRST TIME IN SCHOOL HISTORY..."  Washdup you do know that NC won the title in
1946
1947
1960
2007
Only Elmhurst (2) and North Park (0) are below NC in terms of # of CCIW Titles.  Hopefully that 2 becomes a 3 soon! 

[diehardfan]

Diehard, apparently they don't teach sarcasm @ the Naperville school

Nope, they just teach us how to beat IWU

OMG!!! Sooo funny! A big K+ to the "newbie" regular.

No, I have lurked here long enough to know what a fun loving, unassuming, warm hearted person you are. So no, no offense taken.

I think i'm going to be ill! 

Diehard, apparently they don't teach sarcasm @ the Naperville school

Nice one! Bloomington piling on!  8)

Sarcasm? I don't see any sarcasm in his original post? 

Tailgater: being a CCIW sports nerd, I know where all that stuff is on the official CCIW site by heart. Probably could have found it on the Carthage site or the NCAA site too if I wanted to. It's just how I roll.

[Titanwatcher]

Actually I love any story about a CPS (Chicago Public Schools) kid in the CCIW and seeing how they're doing. I think its an under-recruited market by D-III.

More recently CPS schools have started showing better against thier suburban counterparts, it used to be anytime a CPS school went to playoffs it was one and done 49-7 in many cases, now we've had some teams do much better and winning a couple games here and there.

We don't get much respect, but we have to earn it and they're starting to build a few programs here and there.

There are 2 other WYHS students on the roster; Kindred Cook saw a little time on the D-Line this year as a frosh I think, and Jerry Watkins is a soph DB.
I agree with your assessment of the CPS improving, but I think you guys get your respect on National signing day. More money for equipment and more coaches to teach the game in the CPS would certainly tip the balance in their favor.

[Titanwatcher]

I'm not credible for analyzing the best defenses in the CCIW over the past 20 years, but I'd like to suggest that the 2004 Carthage defense should at least make the team picture. Certainly not the best, but in contention for a high seating

Tailgater, do you have any stats on the '04 defense?

Thanks Diehard you did my homework for me an it is much apprecited!

Titanwatcher:
Here is a quick summary of the 2004 Carthage defense ranking in the CCIW that year.

Scoring Defense - #1
Pass Defense - #2
Turnover Margin - #1 at +30 (may have led the nation in this category?)
Rushing Defense - #1
Pass Defense Efficiency - #1
Opponent 3rd Down Conversion - #1
Opponent Red Zone Defense - #1
Total Defense - #1

Now you'd have to compair actual numbers for those categories with other team defenses in various years to see how Carthage ranks with other #1 CCIW season defenses, but none-the-less the 2004 Carthage "D" was mighty impressive and deserves mention in a conversation about the best CCIW defenses.

Tailgater, thanks for taking the time to compile this information. A very impressive set of stats.

[NCC_alum62]

Actually I love any story about a CPS (Chicago Public Schools) kid in the CCIW and seeing how they're doing. I think its an under-recruited market by D-III.

More recently CPS schools have started showing better against thier suburban counterparts, it used to be anytime a CPS school went to playoffs it was one and done 49-7 in many cases, now we've had some teams do much better and winning a couple games here and there.

We don't get much respect, but we have to earn it and they're starting to build a few programs here and there.

There are 2 other WYHS students on the roster; Kindred Cook saw a little time on the D-Line this year as a frosh I think, and Jerry Watkins is a soph DB.
I agree with your assessment of the CPS improving, but I think you guys get your respect on National signing day. More money for equipment and more coaches to teach the game in the CPS would certainly tip the balance in their favor.

Its all together too true. Not enough money and not enough land either. Some schools are lucky to have a nearby park, but some others like Senn, and possibly still King practice on thier front lawns. 

A few years ago King played the high school season with something like 15 guys YES 15.  They all played two way and I think they won 7 games, but didn't qualify for state playoffs only city. Money, equipment and coaches who don't use f*ck 6 times in a sentence.