FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[cardinaldad]

No offense intended, but why does a thumb injury sideline a defensive back?  If it's an offensive skill player it's understandable, but a hand/finger injury shouldn't put a DB out for the year.  Is there more to this injury than damage to the thumb?

With the way NCC db's hold receivers?  Not having use of your thumb would be debilitating beyond words...   

Mugsy, one dosen't need a thumb to hold. Four digits works just fine!

[cardinaldad]

Seriously, my heart goes out to Wenger and Sulo. I could only imagime how they feel! I, too, hope that Sulo will redshirt. I hear that the injury was pretty serious and needed surgery asap to prevent any disability later in life. Pretty bad. I had a thumb injury once. It was one of my more painful injuries. Many years later, sometimes it still bothers me.

[cardinaldad]

Gee... you think NCC is playing angry after last week.  Granted they are playing Benedictine, but it's 42-0 with 2 minutes left to play in the 2nd quarter.

Total yards: NCC 358, BU 24

Mugsy, you should only know how angry! I have not seen anything like it since peewee football days! Benedictine backs would cringe and turn their backs to the LOS as they received the handoff and you could see their receivers cringe as they went up to catch a ball. Comical in one way, yet sad in another. The Cards were hitting!

[formerd3db]

No offense intended, but why does a thumb injury sideline a defensive back?  If it's an offensive skill player it's understandable, but a hand/finger injury shouldn't put a DB out for the year.  Is there more to this injury than damage to the thumb?

Seriously, my heart goes out to Wenger and Sulo. I could only imagime how they feel! I, too, hope that Sulo will redshirt. I hear that the injury was pretty serious and needed surgery asap to prevent any disability later in life. Pretty bad. I had a thumb injury once. It was one of my more painful injuries. Many years later, sometimes it still bothers me.

Gee... you think NCC is playing angry after last week.  Granted they are playing Benedictine, but it's 42-0 with 2 minutes left to play in the 2nd quarter.

Total yards: NCC 358, BU 24

Just returned from watching the first half....totally onesided

Also, it looks like Wenger will be redshirting this year and coming back next year...Its a big blow and hopefully the Cardinals have some players step up and fill those shoes.

It looks like the Cardinals may have another pair of big shoes to fill.
Sources indicate preseason All American defensive back Derek Sulo sustained tendon and/or ligament damage to his thumb in the Benedictine game. Unfortunately, it appears chances are good that he may also be lost for the season. Hopefully further medical examination will prove that not to be the case.

Ouch, that would be a big blow.  It's always a bit tricky with injuries, I don't want anyone to live with regret that they could have played and didn't, but then again I wouldn't want someone to suffer for the next 50+ years because they tried to play through a serious injury.  I'm sure Derek and the doctors will make the best decision for him.  Hopefully that will be the end of the injuries for the Cardinals.  I wouldn't wish a Wheaton 2007 on anyone.  

cardinaldad and list:

While I obviously do not know the details or extent of the player's injury, perhaps I can provide some clarification info.  There are some particular fractures that can be proteted in which some surgeons will allow a return to play during the season (after a stablization period, of course).  However, here are, indeed, some hand/digit injuries that would sideline a player for the season.  One example is a flexor tendon rupture that retracts out of its sheath - those require immediate surgery and prolonged, very careful protection.  Another is a scaphoid (navicular) fracture, one of the small bones in the wrist at the base of the thumb - this bone has a poor blood supply in some areas and sometimes does not heal and can cause future longterm problems.  Again, I have no idea if the player in question sustained either of these, however, if so, as mentioned, they would be the type of injuries that would cause him to be out for the remainder of the season.  Regardless, I wish the player all the best for a successful recovery.

[Mugsy]

No offense intended, but why does a thumb injury sideline a defensive back?  If it's an offensive skill player it's understandable, but a hand/finger injury shouldn't put a DB out for the year.  Is there more to this injury than damage to the thumb?

With the way NCC db's hold receivers?  Not having use of your thumb would be debilitating beyond words...   

Mugsy, one dosen't need a thumb to hold. Four digits works just fine!

lol... ah yes, I was quite adept at grabbin' a jersey here and there.  2 or 3 fingers for a half second does the trick, unless it was Jeff Query.  Then I'd grab a full handful of jersey for as long as I could get away with.

[Mugsy]

Seriously, my heart goes out to Wenger and Sulo. I could only imagime how they feel! I, too, hope that Sulo will redshirt. I hear that the injury was pretty serious and needed surgery asap to prevent any disability later in life. Pretty bad. I had a thumb injury once. It was one of my more painful injuries. Many years later, sometimes it still bothers me.

I couldn't agree more.  It is terrible to see guys who work so hard for 4 years go down so early in the season.  Best wishes on a full recovery.

[AndOne]

No offense intended, but why does a thumb injury sideline a defensive back?  If it's an offensive skill player it's understandable, but a hand/finger injury shouldn't put a DB out for the year.  Is there more to this injury than damage to the thumb?

Seriously, my heart goes out to Wenger and Sulo. I could only imagime how they feel! I, too, hope that Sulo will redshirt. I hear that the injury was pretty serious and needed surgery asap to prevent any disability later in life. Pretty bad. I had a thumb injury once. It was one of my more painful injuries. Many years later, sometimes it still bothers me.

Gee... you think NCC is playing angry after last week.  Granted they are playing Benedictine, but it's 42-0 with 2 minutes left to play in the 2nd quarter.

Total yards: NCC 358, BU 24

Just returned from watching the first half....totally onesided

Also, it looks like Wenger will be redshirting this year and coming back next year...Its a big blow and hopefully the Cardinals have some players step up and fill those shoes.

It looks like the Cardinals may have another pair of big shoes to fill.
Sources indicate preseason All American defensive back Derek Sulo sustained tendon and/or ligament damage to his thumb in the Benedictine game. Unfortunately, it appears chances are good that he may also be lost for the season. Hopefully further medical examination will prove that not to be the case.

Ouch, that would be a big blow.  It's always a bit tricky with injuries, I don't want anyone to live with regret that they could have played and didn't, but then again I wouldn't want someone to suffer for the next 50+ years because they tried to play through a serious injury.  I'm sure Derek and the doctors will make the best decision for him.  Hopefully that will be the end of the injuries for the Cardinals.  I wouldn't wish a Wheaton 2007 on anyone.  

cardinaldad and list:

While I obviously do not know the details or extent of the player's injury, perhaps I can provide some clarification info.  There are some particular fractures that can be proteted in which some surgeons will allow a return to play during the season (after a stablization period, of course).  However, here are, indeed, some hand/digit injuries that would sideline a player for the season.  One example is a flexor tendon rupture that retracts out of its sheath - those require immediate surgery and prolonged, very careful protection.  Another is a scaphoid (navicular) fracture, one of the small bones in the wrist at the base of the thumb - this bone has a poor blood supply in some areas and sometimes does not heal and can cause future longterm problems.  Again, I have no idea if the player in question sustained either of these, however, if so, as mentioned, they would be the type of injuries that would cause him to be out for the remainder of the season.  Regardless, I wish the player all the best for a successful recovery.

As I reported initially, Derek's injury was first diagnosed as one involving either a tendon or ligament in the thumb as opposed to a "simple" fracture.
As was apparently the case, these type injuries often require extensive and delicate surgery given both the anatomy involved and the relatively small area in which the surgeon has to operate.
With the given information concerning the nature of the injury, the inquiry concerning why a thumb "injury" would sideline a db was partially lacking in both intellect and compassion.  

[Crutches McGee 87]

No offense intended, but why does a thumb injury sideline a defensive back?  If it's an offensive skill player it's understandable, but a hand/finger injury shouldn't put a DB out for the year.  Is there more to this injury than damage to the thumb?

Seriously, my heart goes out to Wenger and Sulo. I could only imagime how they feel! I, too, hope that Sulo will redshirt. I hear that the injury was pretty serious and needed surgery asap to prevent any disability later in life. Pretty bad. I had a thumb injury once. It was one of my more painful injuries. Many years later, sometimes it still bothers me.

Gee... you think NCC is playing angry after last week.  Granted they are playing Benedictine, but it's 42-0 with 2 minutes left to play in the 2nd quarter.

Total yards: NCC 358, BU 24

Just returned from watching the first half....totally onesided

Also, it looks like Wenger will be redshirting this year and coming back next year...Its a big blow and hopefully the Cardinals have some players step up and fill those shoes.

It looks like the Cardinals may have another pair of big shoes to fill.
Sources indicate preseason All American defensive back Derek Sulo sustained tendon and/or ligament damage to his thumb in the Benedictine game. Unfortunately, it appears chances are good that he may also be lost for the season. Hopefully further medical examination will prove that not to be the case.

Ouch, that would be a big blow.  It's always a bit tricky with injuries, I don't want anyone to live with regret that they could have played and didn't, but then again I wouldn't want someone to suffer for the next 50+ years because they tried to play through a serious injury.  I'm sure Derek and the doctors will make the best decision for him.  Hopefully that will be the end of the injuries for the Cardinals.  I wouldn't wish a Wheaton 2007 on anyone.  

cardinaldad and list:

While I obviously do not know the details or extent of the player's injury, perhaps I can provide some clarification info.  There are some particular fractures that can be proteted in which some surgeons will allow a return to play during the season (after a stablization period, of course).  However, here are, indeed, some hand/digit injuries that would sideline a player for the season.  One example is a flexor tendon rupture that retracts out of its sheath - those require immediate surgery and prolonged, very careful protection.  Another is a scaphoid (navicular) fracture, one of the small bones in the wrist at the base of the thumb - this bone has a poor blood supply in some areas and sometimes does not heal and can cause future longterm problems.  Again, I have no idea if the player in question sustained either of these, however, if so, as mentioned, they would be the type of injuries that would cause him to be out for the remainder of the season.  Regardless, I wish the player all the best for a successful recovery.

As I reported initially, Derek's injury was first diagnosed as one involving either a tendon or ligament in the thumb as opposed to a "simple" fracture.
As was apparently the case, these type injuries often require extensive and delicate surgery given both the anatomy involved and the relatively small area in which the surgeon has to operate.
With the given information concerning the nature of the injury, the inquiry concerning why a thumb "injury" would sideline a db was partially lacking in both intellect and compassion.  

AndOne,

Not many people realize the extent of an injury to the thumb.  I'm sure the remark about Sulo being sidelined was a serious inquiry with a little comedy rather than a jab at Sulo's integrity as a player. 

Next Issue on the block...  I played 3 years with Derek Sulo and he is a true warrior on the field as well as Matt Wenger.  I hope both Derek and Matt have a speedy recovery.  Big question is, who do the Cardinals have at the corner position that can fill Derek's shoes?  Willie Hayes seemed to step it up last week.  As did Kane Thompson.  Let's hope the D can do what it always has... replenish itself with another good player.

[raiderguy]

No offense intended, but why does a thumb injury sideline a defensive back?  If it's an offensive skill player it's understandable, but a hand/finger injury shouldn't put a DB out for the year.  Is there more to this injury than damage to the thumb?

Seriously, my heart goes out to Wenger and Sulo. I could only imagime how they feel! I, too, hope that Sulo will redshirt. I hear that the injury was pretty serious and needed surgery asap to prevent any disability later in life. Pretty bad. I had a thumb injury once. It was one of my more painful injuries. Many years later, sometimes it still bothers me.

Gee... you think NCC is playing angry after last week.  Granted they are playing Benedictine, but it's 42-0 with 2 minutes left to play in the 2nd quarter.

Total yards: NCC 358, BU 24

Just returned from watching the first half....totally onesided

Also, it looks like Wenger will be redshirting this year and coming back next year...Its a big blow and hopefully the Cardinals have some players step up and fill those shoes.

It looks like the Cardinals may have another pair of big shoes to fill.
Sources indicate preseason All American defensive back Derek Sulo sustained tendon and/or ligament damage to his thumb in the Benedictine game. Unfortunately, it appears chances are good that he may also be lost for the season. Hopefully further medical examination will prove that not to be the case.

Ouch, that would be a big blow.  It's always a bit tricky with injuries, I don't want anyone to live with regret that they could have played and didn't, but then again I wouldn't want someone to suffer for the next 50+ years because they tried to play through a serious injury.  I'm sure Derek and the doctors will make the best decision for him.  Hopefully that will be the end of the injuries for the Cardinals.  I wouldn't wish a Wheaton 2007 on anyone.  

cardinaldad and list:

While I obviously do not know the details or extent of the player's injury, perhaps I can provide some clarification info.  There are some particular fractures that can be proteted in which some surgeons will allow a return to play during the season (after a stablization period, of course).  However, here are, indeed, some hand/digit injuries that would sideline a player for the season.  One example is a flexor tendon rupture that retracts out of its sheath - those require immediate surgery and prolonged, very careful protection.  Another is a scaphoid (navicular) fracture, one of the small bones in the wrist at the base of the thumb - this bone has a poor blood supply in some areas and sometimes does not heal and can cause future longterm problems.  Again, I have no idea if the player in question sustained either of these, however, if so, as mentioned, they would be the type of injuries that would cause him to be out for the remainder of the season.  Regardless, I wish the player all the best for a successful recovery.

As I reported initially, Derek's injury was first diagnosed as one involving either a tendon or ligament in the thumb as opposed to a "simple" fracture.
[b]As was apparently the case, these type injuries often require extensive and delicate surgery given both the anatomy involved and the relatively small area in which the surgeon has to operate. [/b] With the given information concerning the nature of the injury, the inquiry concerning why a thumb "injury" would sideline a db was partially lacking in both intellect and compassion.  

If I could just jump in here for a moment. I would suggest based on the comment I highlighted in red above, they might try to find the surgeon a bigger room to operate in..... I've seen some pretty large operating rooms in the hospital. That would certainly help out.

[matblake]

Video of Wheaton's winning touchdown last Saturday
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iWv85YogQBY

or you can use the link from Wheaton's webpage:
http://athletics.wheaton.edu/news/2009/9/15/FB_0915095622.aspx?path=football

Either way its good watching!

[matblake]

Congrats to the players of the week:  http://www.cciw.org/fall_football/FBPOW2_09.php

Also, congrats to JD East for being on the D3Football Team of the Week:
http://www.d3football.com/tow/

[redman04]

If I could just jump in here for a moment. I would suggest based on the comment I highlighted in red above, they might try to find the surgeon a bigger room to operate in..... I seen some pretty large operating rooms in the hospital. That would certainly help out.

AWESOME... Very Funny!
+K

IN all things real... I hope it is not that bad and he can come back this year.  You never wanna see players out for a year, even if you play against them.

[wheels81]

Here is the link for daily herald article on Coach Swider's son at Wheaton North.

http://football.dailyherald.com/story/?id=320958

Also a Tight End mentioned in there has last name of Thorson, connection with Wheaton Football Alum?

[79jaybird]

Justin Swider's multi faceted athletic ability does not surprise me considering his father is a triathalon champion.  the Swider family has great athletic bloodlines including a champion figure skater, and the late Mr. Swider was a fantastic athlete (according to a mutual friend we both know).

[Mugsy]

Here is the link for daily herald article on Coach Swider's son at Wheaton North.

http://football.dailyherald.com/story/?id=320958

Also a Tight End mentioned in there has last name of Thorson, connection with Wheaton Football Alum?

Yes... I believe Hunter Thorson is Chad's son, though I thought he was going to Wheaton Academy.

I saw an article in one of the local newspapers about a receiver making an impact at Wheaton Academy.  Has a last name of "Ritchie"...  Son of 2 way starter and multi-All CCIW MLB Thane Ritchie.  Thane played at Wheaton when I did and ended up signing a free agent contract with the Pittsburgh Steelers when done at Wheaton.

The article also mentions Luke Theobald (had 2 sacks).  My guess is that he is the brother of Nick Theobald who is starting at DT for Wheaton (and has for 3 years now).

Hopefully all future recruits for Wheaton...