FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

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I think the world of Bill Weinke!  I think he is an incredible person and a very good football coach.  I really think our inability to defend good passing teams in the playoffs is ultimately what led to this.  Even the Franklin game that we won, we needed big points to pull that game out.  Think about the second Capital game and the second Franklin game at home.  We were outcoached, plain and simple.  I know you can talk about injuries, but that is part of the game.  Fact is, we couldn't stop them.  Rick Ponx will work his tail off to get the defense where it has to be.

Bring back the Swarm!

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I picked up on the theme of some of the other boards, did some research and picked a CCIW ALL-Decade Team. I picked only 11 players on offense (pro style), 11 players on defense (4-3), and 3 specialists. I also picked an MVP for offense/defense and a coach.

MVP Offense: Kam Kniss, NCC
MVP Defense: Pete Ittersagen, Wheaton
Coach of the decade: Mike Swider, Wheaton

Offense:

QB: Kam Kniss, NCC
RB: Dante Washington, Carthage; Dominic Sulo, NCC
WR: Brad Musso, Wheaton; Martin Ceisel, IWU
TE: Bryan Bergman, Carthage
OL: Mack Hay, Augie; Josh Delancy, NCC; JD Sheldon, Augie; Mike Zeifert, Augie; Blaine Westemeyer, Augie


Defense:

DL: Mike Lindsey, Millikin; Andy Studebaker, Wheaton; Jeff Heinzl, IWU; Dane Lundgren, Wheaton
LB: Lenny Radtke, NCC; Matt Wenger, NCC, Ray Hartmann, Carthage
DB: Pete Ittersagen, Wheaton; Kevin Kaplan, IWU; Donavan Moore, Carthage; Tom Anthony, Augie


Specialists:

P: Aaron McLean, Millikin
K: Andy Beals, Millikin
RS: Kevin Kaplan, IWU

I had the hardest time picking running backs and linebackers. I also favored players who performed over more than 1 year and in many cases 2-3 years vs players who were 1 year wonders. The exception to that was Jeff Heinzl whom I view as one of the dominant Dline players to have played in the CCIW. Every team except Elmhurst and NPU are represented and I nearly picked Randy Wright as an LB. Darnal Rios from NPU as an RB was in the discussion.

I would have thrown in All-American, Ryan Glassman, Carthage on the offensive line, but then again I'm slightly prejudice.  

Also All-American RB Randall Baker, Carthage could be considered on this list.

I would throw Tyke Spencer WR, NCC into the mix and argue he should be ranked ahead of Musso and Ceisel.  Spencer lead the CCIW in Receiving yards and scoring in 04 and 05.  If he had more years of eligibility he would likely own all the career records as well.

[Mugsy]

I picked up on the theme of some of the other boards, did some research and picked a CCIW ALL-Decade Team. I picked only 11 players on offense (pro style), 11 players on defense (4-3), and 3 specialists. I also picked an MVP for offense/defense and a coach.

MVP Offense: Kam Kniss, NCC
MVP Defense: Pete Ittersagen, Wheaton
Coach of the decade: Mike Swider, Wheaton

Offense:

QB: Kam Kniss, NCC
RB: Dante Washington, Carthage; Dominic Sulo, NCC
WR: Brad Musso, Wheaton; Martin Ceisel, IWU
TE: Bryan Bergman, Carthage
OL: Mack Hay, Augie; Josh Delancy, NCC; JD Sheldon, Augie; Mike Zeifert, Augie; Blaine Westemeyer, Augie


Defense:

DL: Mike Lindsey, Millikin; Andy Studebaker, Wheaton; Jeff Heinzl, IWU; Dane Lundgren, Wheaton
LB: Lenny Radtke, NCC; Matt Wenger, NCC, Ray Hartmann, Carthage
DB: Pete Ittersagen, Wheaton; Kevin Kaplan, IWU; Donavan Moore, Carthage; Tom Anthony, Augie


Specialists:

P: Aaron McLean, Millikin
K: Andy Beals, Millikin
RS: Kevin Kaplan, IWU

I had the hardest time picking running backs and linebackers. I also favored players who performed over more than 1 year and in many cases 2-3 years vs players who were 1 year wonders. The exception to that was Jeff Heinzl whom I view as one of the dominant Dline players to have played in the CCIW. Every team except Elmhurst and NPU are represented and I nearly picked Randy Wright as an LB. Darnal Rios from NPU as an RB was in the discussion.

I would have thrown in All-American, Ryan Glassman, Carthage on the offensive line, but then again I'm slightly prejudice.  

Also All-American RB Randall Baker, Carthage could be considered on this list.

I would throw Tyke Spencer WR, NCC into the mix and argue he should be ranked ahead of Musso and Ceisel.  Spencer lead the CCIW in Receiving yards and scoring in 04 and 05.  If he had more years of eligibility he would likely own all the career records as well.

No offense to Spencer, he was an outstanding WR to say the least.  But I wouldn't dismiss Musso (or Ceisel) that quickly.  The fact is Musso did it for 4 years! The "if he had more years..." statement is only conjecture at this point.  Sure... one could double his current 2 year stats and infer he'd break all CCIW records.  It is reasonable he may have... but who knows about injuries, etc...

Still... Spencer would be in my top 3 (probably 2nd).

For comparison:
Musso in 4 seasons: 255 career receptions, 4287 yards, 36 TDs, 16.8 yard average (5332 career all purpose yards).

Ceisel in 4 seasons: 203 career receptions, 3011 yards, 30 TDs, 14.8 yard average

Spencer in 2 seasons: 140 career receptions, 2443 yards, 28 TDs, 17.4 yard average

[usee]

I picked up on the theme of some of the other boards, did some research and picked a CCIW ALL-Decade Team. I picked only 11 players on offense (pro style), 11 players on defense (4-3), and 3 specialists. I also picked an MVP for offense/defense and a coach.

MVP Offense: Kam Kniss, NCC
MVP Defense: Pete Ittersagen, Wheaton
Coach of the decade: Mike Swider, Wheaton

Offense:

QB: Kam Kniss, NCC
RB: Dante Washington, Carthage; Dominic Sulo, NCC
WR: Brad Musso, Wheaton; Martin Ceisel, IWU
TE: Bryan Bergman, Carthage
OL: Mack Hay, Augie; Josh Delancy, NCC; JD Sheldon, Augie; Mike Zeifert, Augie; Blaine Westemeyer, Augie


Defense:

DL: Mike Lindsey, Millikin; Andy Studebaker, Wheaton; Jeff Heinzl, IWU; Dane Lundgren, Wheaton
LB: Lenny Radtke, NCC; Matt Wenger, NCC, Ray Hartmann, Carthage
DB: Pete Ittersagen, Wheaton; Kevin Kaplan, IWU; Donavan Moore, Carthage; Tom Anthony, Augie


Specialists:

P: Aaron McLean, Millikin
K: Andy Beals, Millikin
RS: Kevin Kaplan, IWU

I had the hardest time picking running backs and linebackers. I also favored players who performed over more than 1 year and in many cases 2-3 years vs players who were 1 year wonders. The exception to that was Jeff Heinzl whom I view as one of the dominant Dline players to have played in the CCIW. Every team except Elmhurst and NPU are represented and I nearly picked Randy Wright as an LB. Darnal Rios from NPU as an RB was in the discussion.

I would have thrown in All-American, Ryan Glassman, Carthage on the offensive line, but then again I'm slightly prejudice. 

Also All-American RB Randall Baker, Carthage could be considered on this list.

I would throw Tyke Spencer WR, NCC into the mix and argue he should be ranked ahead of Musso and Ceisel.  Spencer lead the CCIW in Receiving yards and scoring in 04 and 05.  If he had more years of eligibility he would likely own all the career records as well.

I had Tyke Spencer as my #3 receiver and I could see an argument for #2. As far as I know Tyke used his 4 years of eligibility. The fact he chose a non D3 school for his first 2 years should actually knock him farther down the list for poor judgement!

There is no argument for Spencer ahead of Musso. Musso is #7 on the all time Divisioin 3 list for career yards and he started for 4 years on a team that was 50% run/pass. (He is less than 100 yds behind Pierre Garcon on that list who is #5 all time) He is the best receiver in the decade by almost any measure. Ceisel started for 4 years but played on some bad IWU teams. It was a tight call for me between Ceisel and Spencer but I went with the 4 year starter over the 2 year starter who went on a 2 year walkabout.

[Mugsy]

In another non-football related note, but with ties to CCIW/Wheaton, Nancy Swider-Peltz Jr. (Coach Peltz's daughter and Coach Swiders niece) will be competing in the 2010 Olympics in Vancover.

http://speedskating.teamusa.org/athletes/nancy-swider-peltz-jr

[usee]

In another non-football related note, but with ties to CCIW/Wheaton, Nancy Swider-Peltz Jr. (Coach Peltz's daughter and Coach Swiders niece) will be competing in the 2010 Olympics in Vancover.

http://speedskating.teamusa.org/athletes/nancy-swider-peltz-jr

It should be noted that her mother by the same name is a 5 time Olympic speedskater and Wheaton alum.

[CardinalAlum]

It should be noted that her mother by the same name is a 5 time Olympic speedskater and Wheaton alum.

Is she the one that started ahead of Mugsy for 3 years at LB?   

[Titan Q]

A recruit heading to IWU...

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/football/article_1df2fc2e-1501-11df-b601-001cc4c002e0.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyoRnyTnAJk

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/football/article_52c732fe-e779-11de-b903-001cc4c03286.html

As a senior at 1A Lexington, Stinde rushed for 3325 yards and 46 TD's...both state records.  He actually led the nation in rushing yardage last year...

http://www.maxpreps.com/national/football.htm

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/w3SbW9flEd6UswAcxJTdpg/illinois-rb-sets-states-single-season-high-school-rushing-record,-ties-td-mark.htm


Sounds like a nice pickup for Coach Eash and the Titans.

[Mugsy]

A recruit heading to IWU...

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/football/article_1df2fc2e-1501-11df-b601-001cc4c002e0.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyoRnyTnAJk

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/football/article_52c732fe-e779-11de-b903-001cc4c03286.html

As a senior at 1A Lexington, Stinde rushed for 3325 yards and 46 TD's...both state records.  He actually led the nation in rushing yardage last year...

http://www.maxpreps.com/national/football.htm

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/w3SbW9flEd6UswAcxJTdpg/illinois-rb-sets-states-single-season-high-school-rushing-record,-ties-td-mark.htm


Sounds like a nice pickup for Coach Eash and the Titans.

Not to disparage this recruit at all... those are impressive stats and he does look like he has the tools (decent speed, size, open field vision, runs hard, catches the ball, etc...), but some of the defenses he was playing against were horrible.  Like all recruits for any school we'll see how this translates to the CCIW level of play.

I have some question about his HUGE stats based upon my initial impression of the level of competition he played against when viewing the youtube link.  Those defenses where atrocious. On several plays he was virtually untouched and I'm not so sure how much of it was based upon his ability vs. inept defenses.  On other plays the D-Line jogs once it is apparent the play is going away from them.  On the first play of the vid, look at the 2 saps you just dive at his feet and don't even attempt to tackle.  The screen pass on the 3rd play, the defense is an absolute joke!  Tackling in general is horrendous. 

On a humorous note look at the play at 1:26, at the very end of the play a Dlineman attempts to jump a player on the ground, only to land on his head.  I'm left wondering what the final score was in some of these games.  He is scoring at will, yet the opposing team is kicking off with significant frequency (indicating they are putting up some points as well).

That all said... he is hands down the best player on the field and it shows.  Now that brought into question (to an extent) his relative ability from 1A and how it will translate to the CCIW, he'll probably become a thorn in Wheaton's side and average 200+ yards a game against Wheaton.   

[Mugsy]

It should be noted that her mother by the same name is a 5 time Olympic speedskater and Wheaton alum.

Is she the one that started ahead of Mugsy for 3 years at LB?   

Hmm... is that a swipe at me or Nancy?     (Clearly me...)

There is absolutely no doubt Nancy is a better athlete than I.  5 time Olympic speedskater!  Unbelievable!  I think on at least one occassion she qualified for the Olympic team 6 or so months (maybe even less time) after giving birth to a child.  I recall driving past the football field and seeing Coach Peltz shovelling snow off the track so that Nancy could do "lunge walking" around the track for who knows how far.  Serious commitment, serious effort, serious ability...

[usee]

It may have been mentioned on here before but in light of recent events it is worth repeating.

Former Wheaton Head Football Coach, J.R. Bishop was the head coach at Naperville Central before he took over at Wheaton in 1982. His final QB at Naperville Central was none other than Sean Payton of the New Orleans Saints. They remain in close contact. I know Coach Bishop attends 3-4 games a year of the Saints and I believe he was at the Super Bowl (he is referenced at the end of the Sports Illustrated article after the NFC championship game). I also know that JR Bishop attends training camp every year to observe practices, staff meetings, and position meetings and provide feedback to Sean. It's just another cool connection of D3 Football to the NFL.

[oldnuthin]

A recruit heading to IWU...

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/football/article_1df2fc2e-1501-11df-b601-001cc4c002e0.html

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kyoRnyTnAJk

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/high-school/football/article_52c732fe-e779-11de-b903-001cc4c03286.html

As a senior at 1A Lexington, Stinde rushed for 3325 yards and 46 TD's...both state records.  He actually led the nation in rushing yardage last year...

http://www.maxpreps.com/national/football.htm

http://www.maxpreps.com/news/w3SbW9flEd6UswAcxJTdpg/illinois-rb-sets-states-single-season-high-school-rushing-record,-ties-td-mark.htm


Sounds like a nice pickup for Coach Eash and the Titans.

Not to disparage this recruit at all... those are impressive stats and he does look like he has the tools (decent speed, size, open field vision, runs hard, catches the ball, etc...), but some of the defenses he was playing against were horrible.  Like all recruits for any school we'll see how this translates to the CCIW level of play.

I have some question about his HUGE stats based upon my initial impression of the level of competition he played against when viewing the youtube link.  Those defenses where atrocious. On several plays he was virtually untouched and I'm not so sure how much of it was based upon his ability vs. inept defenses.  On other plays the D-Line jogs once it is apparent the play is going away from them.  On the first play of the vid, look at the 2 saps you just dive at his feet and don't even attempt to tackle.  The screen pass on the 3rd play, the defense is an absolute joke!  Tackling in general is horrendous. 

On a humorous note look at the play at 1:26, at the very end of the play a Dlineman attempts to jump a player on the ground, only to land on his head.  I'm left wondering what the final score was in some of these games.  He is scoring at will, yet the opposing team is kicking off with significant frequency (indicating they are putting up some points as well).

That all said... he is hands down the best player on the field and it shows.  Now that brought into question (to an extent) his relative ability from 1A and how it will translate to the CCIW, he'll probably become a thorn in Wheaton's side and average 200+ yards a game against Wheaton.   

it is just my impression,but it seems to me that kids from the smaller  schools at  offensive skill positions have a better chance of seeing the field early than others. especially at the receiver position. all and all it looks like a nice recruit for IWU.

[izzy stradlin]

Just saw Mike Swider interviewed at his home on NBC 5 Chicago about his niece and Wheaton student (or grad, I am not sure) Nancy Swider-Peltz at the Olympics.   Sounded like her first time was good. 

[79jaybird]

On the Nancy Swider-Peltz Jr. subject,

There is a nice article in the Glen Ellyn local paper about Nancy which mentions her family and how she has grown up in that sport.

On a personal note,  Mrs. 79 Jay is considered "full term" (37 weeks) today so the newest future Bluejay is not far away. 

[formerd3db]

79jaybird:

Good to see you post since it has been awhile, although I know you've been busy.  Anyway, best to you and Mrs. jaybird on your soon-to-be arrival.  Keep us posted here!