FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[sju56321]

Pat-if UWW is "west" #1, how do you get Hathc Champ as #8 seed? Who doesn't make the playoffs, Bethel or Coe?
Also, comment on the WIAC board has North Central or Wheaton being the #1 "north" seed if Mount moves "east."

[Son of Tailgater]

My spreads this week for a little home cookin :

Millikin +11.5 @ IWU
NCC -14.5 @ Elmhurst
Wheaton -8.5 @ Augie
NPU -17.5 @ Carthage

My picks/ money down:

IWU (with Hockaday out I feel Millikin will really struggle on O but it will be close early)
NCC (too high powered of an offense and a D for Elmhurst to compete with, NCC by 3 scores plus)
Augie (going off last week this one will be close/ Augie might not win but they cover, they are the upset team this year)
Carthage (coming off a tough loss I think CC will put up 21+, NP hasn't scored in conference yet)

[79jaybird]

I think the EC/NC game is going to be similar in storyline to the Wheaton game from a few weeks ago, where Elmhurst has some opportuntiies but either can't execute and/or doesn't get the job done and the depth of (in this case) NC will win it.

[usee]

My spreads this week for a little home cookin :

Millikin +11.5 @ IWU
NCC -14.5 @ Elmhurst
Wheaton -8.5 @ Augie
NPU -17.5 @ Carthage

Do you really mean NPU -17.5?  Wouldn't that be +17.5?

Too late. I've already placed my bet!

Dansand,

the house made your bet good. Spread is corrected for everyone else who lost out!

[matblake]

Video of Wheaton players helping out with PE classes at an elementary school:  http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p4f93LZ3a2Y  Younger kids are so easy to get excited!

[usee]

Pat-if UWW is "west" #1, how do you get Hathc Champ as #8 seed? Who doesn't make the playoffs, Bethel or Coe?
Also, comment on the WIAC board has North Central or Wheaton being the #1 "north" seed if Mount moves "east."

I don't think Pat is speculating Coe vs. Bethel. He is merely saying the #8 seed in the North and West are likely to be the MWC and NATHC AQ's. This is a seeding issue vs a Pool A/C issue. Now it obviously has an effect since each bracket will only have 8 teams but that will sort itself out later. If Coe and/or Bethel make the field they will likely be seeded higher than #8 in their bracket at 9-1.

[sju56321]

OK-just wasn't sure that a conference champ would be seeded lower than at a pool C team, but I guess that does happen-so agreed. What is the likely "north" region at this point, both NCC and Wheaton getting in?

[02 Warhawk]

OK-just wasn't sure that a conference champ would be seeded lower than at a pool C team, but I guess that does happen-so agreed. What is the likely "north" region at this point, both NCC and Wheaton getting in?

I think there's a very good chance both teams get in, especially if NCC beats Wheaton next weekend.

[usee]

If NCC beats Wheaton (they will be favored) and Wheaton can finish 9-1 (Wheaton has a very challenging game this weekend vs Augie!!) I think it's a lock for both to get in. If Wheaton wins, NCC is a strong pool C but their SOS is lower than at least 12 other teams in the Pool C picture.

Don't discount the possibilty of a 3 way tie for the AQ in the CCIW. If Augie beats Wheaton and Wheaton beats NCC they may all finish 6-1. In this scenario NCC is the likely winner of the AQ since it would likely come down to point differential between the 3 games and NCC currently holds a +20 pt win over Augie. So Augie needs a comination of their win over Wheaton and a Wheaton win over NCC to be more than 20pts to win the AQ. And if Augie beats Wheaton next week, Wheaton would have to beat NCC by a pretty wide margin to overcome the potential pt differential there. But all that is a more complicated situation for another day!

[Pat Coleman]

Pat-if UWW is "west" #1, how do you get Hathc Champ as #8 seed? Who doesn't make the playoffs, Bethel or Coe?
Also, comment on the WIAC board has North Central or Wheaton being the #1 "north" seed if Mount moves "east."

Since the NATHC champ is likely in the Chicago area, it's a short trip. Doesn't have any influence on whether Bethel or Coe make the playoffs -- literally, they are not related decisions at all.

[Gregory Sager]

Carthage (coming off a tough loss I think CC will put up 21+, NP hasn't scored in conference yet)

NPU has scored in conference play; the Vikings just haven't scored against anybody's first team yet.

[sflzman]

\D3 Top 25 Fan Poll

1. UW-Whitewater (20) 500
2. Mt. Union     479
3. Wesley    453
4. North Central   435
5. St. Thomas   417
6. UMHB    394
7. Delaware Valley  336
8. Hardin-Simmons  318
9. Ohio Northern   305
10. Linfield    300
11. Wartburg    288
12. Wittenberg   269
13. Thomas More   264
14 Wheaton    242
15. Montclair St.   233
16. Trine    210
17. Coe     169
18. Bethel    167
19. Central 134
20. Hampden-Sydney  133
21. California Lutheran  90
22. Ursinas     84
23. St. John Fisher   56
24. Alfred     46
25. Pacific Lutheran 46

Dropped Out: Case Western Reserve

Others receiving votes: Case Western Reserve (36), Depauw (21), Rowan (17), Wabash (17), Franklin (16), Cortland St. (12), Willamette (8), Augustana (4)

[79jaybird]

Somebody was telling me that Loras and Dubuque want to join the CCIW.  I have also heard past rumors about St. Norbert and Carroll wanting to rejoin.  Anybody else hear or know about this? 
IMO, I don't think the CCIW is going to be changing it's landscape any time soon.

[Mugsy]

Somebody was telling me that Loras and Dubuque want to join the CCIW.  I have also heard past rumors about St. Norbert and Carroll wanting to rejoin.  Anybody else hear or know about this? 
IMO, I don't think the CCIW is going to be changing it's landscape any time soon.

This topic seems to come up every couple of years. 

I believe it was covered on the CCIW basketball board a couple of months ago.  I'll see if I can find it, but as a high level summary it is extremely doubtful that the CCIW will expand.  The overall consensus is that an 8 school conference is an ideal size for most sports.  Other considerations why the likes of Stl Norbert, Carroll, Loras and/or Dubuque would not be considered are budget (due to travel expenses) and whether or not they have the full slate of men's/women's sports. 

Like I said I don't recall all the details, but if I can find it on the bball board I'll post a link here.

[Mugsy]

Somebody was telling me that Loras and Dubuque want to join the CCIW.  I have also heard past rumors about St. Norbert and Carroll wanting to rejoin.  Anybody else hear or know about this?  
IMO, I don't think the CCIW is going to be changing it's landscape any time soon.

This topic seems to come up every couple of years.  

I believe it was covered on the CCIW basketball board a couple of months ago.  I'll see if I can find it, but as a high level summary it is extremely doubtful that the CCIW will expand.  The overall consensus is that an 8 school conference is an ideal size for most sports.  Other considerations why the likes of Stl Norbert, Carroll, Loras and/or Dubuque would not be considered are budget (due to travel expenses) and whether or not they have the full slate of men's/women's sports.  

Like I said I don't recall all the details, but if I can find it on the bball board I'll post a link here.

Found it.  Not on the BBall board, but actually was on this board back in June of this year.  Go back to Reply #20212 on page 1348.  Look particularly at Mr. Sager's post for the most detailed perspective.

http://www.d3boards.com/index.php?topic=4077.20205
Reply #20212 on: June 16, 2010, 04:46:33 pm »