FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mr. Ypsi]

These third regional rankings could be a problem.  SOMEHOW they jumped Mt. Union ahead of NCC, when NCC just beat #1 Wheaton?!  (I have no problem with UMU being first, but why suddenly NOW?)

Meanwhile, St. Thomas stayed #1 ahead of UWW.  I fear they are positioning for a choice of the Tommies as the 4th #1, rather than NCC (which would almost certainly mean "Hello UWW").

[skunks_sidekick]

Looking at it, I think you may be right Mr. Ypsi.  How St. Thomas can be ranked ahead of UWW is just silly.

As far as NCC/Mount, I think that was always a "pick-em" at best, but I do agree I think it's odd that Mount jumps over NCC after they just defeat Wheaton. 

I have little regard for these regional rankings, and the whole SOS argument.  Too many variables, too many unknowns due to conference affiliations/games/etc...

[02 Warhawk]

These third regional rankings could be a problem.  SOMEHOW they jumped Mt. Union ahead of NCC, when NCC just beat #1 Wheaton?!  (I have no problem with UMU being first, but why suddenly NOW?)

Meanwhile, St. Thomas stayed #1 ahead of UWW.  I fear they are positioning for a choice of the Tommies as the 4th #1, rather than NCC (which would almost certainly mean "Hello UWW").

I basically posted the same thing on the WIAC board. If anything I thought the NCC win verse Wheaton would of distance themselves from UMU. Just when you think you have this regional polls figured out...this happens.

[FishHack76]

"The way Swider sees it, if the No. 18-ranked Thunder beat Millikin on Saturday, they're in."
I don't really get the angle of this week's Around the Midwest. Who didn't think Wheaton was going to get in if it finishes with only a loss to North Central? I know this was probably written before the regional rankings but Wheaton is No. 3 in the North!
I know Clyde has been doing this a while, so I would think he knows how this all works. I didn't get that sense from the quotes and the start of the article. Perhaps I am not getting it.
If you wanted to write about fighting to make the playoffs, previewing Chicago vs. Washington U would make a better lead IMHO.
I understand the point about NCC not making it last season but the Cardinals were 8-2, a slight difference. Also, No. 18-ranked is redundant. It's No. 18 or 18th-ranked.

[CardinalAlum]

Obviously, the whole regional rankings is a complete joke!   Why have them if there is no logic to them!   #2 beats #1 on the road and gets passed by #3 so they can justify their moves with the #1 seeds next week.  Pretty shady!  I'm not saying MTU isn't deserving, merely stating my displeasure with possibly getting passed over as a top seed!   
We'll see how it plays out.....  You play whomever they line up in front of you!   Go Cards!

[NCF]

Obviously, the whole regional rankings is a complete joke!   Why have them if there is no logic to them!   #2 beats #1 on the road and gets passed by #3 so they can justify their moves with the #1 seeds next week.  Pretty shady!  I'm not saying MTU isn't deserving, merely stating my displeasure with possibly getting passed over as a top seed!   
We'll see how it plays out.....  You play whomever they line up in front of you!   Go Cards!

My thoughts (and I'm sure there are plenty of others) exactly! However, just more fuel to stoke the NC fire and they know the road to the top goes through MTU and UWW.

[skunks_sidekick]

Although I agree that it makes no sense for Mount to jump NCC this week, it also NEVER made sense that either Wheaton or NCC was ahead of Mount in the first place.  The "travesty" started however many weeks ago when the first rankings came out.  It was totally ridiculous.

Who KNOWS what really goes into these regional rankings (even though the criteria have been discussed ad naseum).  They just don't make sense, although they sure seem to be more in line with the national rankings now, than the past two weeks.  The only remaining joke is that UWW is #2 behind St. Thomas.

[CardinalAlum]

Obviously, the whole regional rankings is a complete joke!   Why have them if there is no logic to them!   #2 beats #1 on the road and gets passed by #3 so they can justify their moves with the #1 seeds next week.  Pretty shady!  I'm not saying MTU isn't deserving, merely stating my displeasure with possibly getting passed over as a top seed!   
We'll see how it plays out.....  You play whomever they line up in front of you!   Go Cards!

My thoughts (and I'm sure there are plenty of others) exactly! However, just more fuel to stoke the NC fire and they know the road to the top goes through MTU and UWW.

NCF,

The road to the top was always going through MTU and UWW.  My complaint is that I feel that NCC has earned a #1, assuming MTU went East and UWW stayed in the West, in the North region.   Again, we'll wait and see....

[CardinalAlum]

Although I agree that it makes no sense for Mount to jump NCC this week, it also NEVER made sense that either Wheaton or NCC was ahead of Mount in the first place.  The "travesty" started however many weeks ago when the first rankings came out.  It was totally ridiculous.

Who KNOWS what really goes into these regional rankings (even though the criteria have been discussed ad naseum).  They just don't make sense, although they sure seem to be more in line with the national rankings now, than the past two weeks.  The only remaining joke is that UWW is #2 behind St. Thomas.

Completely agree!

[ncc_fan]

Had UMU been ahead of NCC in last week's regional rankings there would be no complaints about today's rankings from CCIW fans.  But can anyone suggest with what twisted logic the committee must have applied the criteria to make the change this week?

[HScoach]

Obviously, the whole regional rankings is a complete joke!   Why have them if there is no logic to them!   #2 beats #1 on the road and gets passed by #3 so they can justify their moves with the #1 seeds next week.  Pretty shady!  I'm not saying MTU isn't deserving, merely stating my displeasure with possibly getting passed over as a top seed!   
We'll see how it plays out.....  You play whomever they line up in front of you!   Go Cards!

If it's any consolation, though I doubt it is, this week's rankings make no sense to me either and I'm as big a Mount guy as you'll find.  I figured NCC would be #1 in the North after beating Wheaton.

The only think consistent with the NCAA is their continual inconsistencies!

[CardinalAlum]

Obviously, the whole regional rankings is a complete joke!   Why have them if there is no logic to them!   #2 beats #1 on the road and gets passed by #3 so they can justify their moves with the #1 seeds next week.  Pretty shady!  I'm not saying MTU isn't deserving, merely stating my displeasure with possibly getting passed over as a top seed!   
We'll see how it plays out.....  You play whomever they line up in front of you!   Go Cards!

If it's any consolation, though I doubt it is, this week's rankings make no sense to me either and I'm as big a Mount guy as you'll find.  I figured NCC would be #1 in the North after beating Wheaton.

The only think consistent with the NCAA is their continual inconsistencies!

Amen!

[Mr. Ypsi]

As I've posted elsewhere, IMO the 4th #1 seed (assuming UMU, UWW, and Wesley are the first 3) is a battle between NCC and St. Thomas.  Leaving the Tommies at a #1 but inexplicably NOT raising NCC to #1 is not encouraging.

There IS one morsel of good news in the rankings, however.  St. John's did NOT enter the west rankings, so the Tommies still have only one win over a regionally-ranked team.  However, IWU DID enter the north rankings (#8), so NCC picks up TWO wins over regionally-ranked teams in a single week!

[skunks_sidekick]

As I've posted elsewhere, IMO the 4th #1 seed (assuming UMU, UWW, and Wesley are the first 3) is a battle between NCC and St. Thomas.  Leaving the Tommies at a #1 but inexplicably NOT raising NCC to #1 is not encouraging.

There IS one morsel of good news in the rankings, however.  St. John's did NOT enter the west rankings, so the Tommies still have only one win over a regionally-ranked team.  However, IWU DID enter the north rankings (#8), so NCC picks up TWO wins over regionally-ranked teams in a single week!

I cannot see how anyone can have St. Thomas above NCC at this time. 

[Titan Q]

However, IWU DID enter the north rankings (#8), so NCC picks up TWO wins over regionally-ranked teams in a single week!

This makes the Mount Union leapfrog of North Central even more confusing.  Not only did NCC beat the previous regional #1 (Wheaton), but by IWU moving into the rankings, NCC also picked up that win over a regionally ranked team since last week.

It's almost as if the North committee got cold feet or something about not having Mount #1.  Or just decided they had it wrong last week.

My suggestion that North Central could host Mount Union (if the brackets created that match up) was based on the assumption that there was almost no way they could have Mount leapfrog NCC since NCC beat the previous regional #1.  Now, obviously, they've set Mount Union up to host all the way through.