FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[FormerCard]

The shutout bid ends for NCC ... 57-7 with 35 seconds left.

No contest today, not even a game.   NC was dominating on both sides of the ball.  Stanek looked great, had a good statistical day.  I dont have much more analysis to give on the game.
Ohio Northern should be a great game next week..looking forward to it.

next week..looking forward to it.


Staneck Looked great running the ball but has a very inaccurate arm and misses a lot of open recievers.  The tight end is so big that anyone can hit him when he is 20 yards downfield hence the Two TD's.  On the long pass the reciever had to stop turn around and wait for the ball.  After that the game was a route.  Krackel looked good passing as he has been much more accurate than Staneck all year.  Then again SNU was demoralized from the time it was about 30-0 til the end.  Glad Krackel is healthy now so he can be available next week

Coach Jeff Thorne is not afraid to pull either player if they are not effective or are not 100% healthy.  It has happened to both QB's this year.  I like that we have two solid QB's that can run this offense.

Krackel got pulled for injury, after replacing Staneck for being ineffective.  I don't believe Staneck should be replaced but I believe if NCC is having trouble running the ball Staneck is a weak passer and the Cards will need to put in Krackel to move the ball

Like I said, it happened to both QBs, and I think both are capable of running the offense.   There is no reason to make a change at this point, but Jeff will not hesitate to go to Crackel if Stanek is not going 12-14 for 262 with 4 touchdowns like he did today.     It has to be difficult for Crackel though as he has played so well this entire year and is a great QB.

[Mugsy]

Not to diminish or eliminate the team aspect to football, but Wheaton would not have won the game today without Jordan Roberts.   Numerous times he avoided the rush, sometimes in spectacular fashion.  The dual threat he provides makes it really tough to defensive game plan against.

PASSING           Cmp-Att-Int  Yds  TD  Long  Sack  
Roberts, Jordan  18-24-0        221  2      46       4

RUSHING           No.    Gain  Loss  Net  TD  Lg  Avg.  
Roberts, Jordan  13     89     37     52    0   36  4.0

Take away the 4 sacks and Roberts was Wheaton's leading rusher.  The 37 yard run to the Coe 1 yard line to setup the last TD giving Wheaton a 2 score lead was something else.

Not bad for someone with an injured throwing hand.  

[TCrawf5825]

The shutout bid ends for NCC ... 57-7 with 35 seconds left.

No contest today, not even a game.   NC was dominating on both sides of the ball.  Stanek looked great, had a good statistical day.  I dont have much more analysis to give on the game.
Ohio Northern should be a great game next week..looking forward to it.

next week..looking forward to it.


Staneck Looked great running the ball but has a very inaccurate arm and misses a lot of open recievers.  The tight end is so big that anyone can hit him when he is 20 yards downfield hence the Two TD's.  On the long pass the reciever had to stop turn around and wait for the ball.  After that the game was a route.  Krackel looked good passing as he has been much more accurate than Staneck all year.  Then again SNU was demoralized from the time it was about 30-0 til the end.  Glad Krackel is healthy now so he can be available next week

Coach Jeff Thorne is not afraid to pull either player if they are not effective or are not 100% healthy.  It has happened to both QB's this year.  I like that we have two solid QB's that can run this offense.

Krackel got pulled for injury, after replacing Staneck for being ineffective.  I don't believe Staneck should be replaced but I believe if NCC is having trouble running the ball Staneck is a weak passer and the Cards will need to put in Krackel to move the ball

Like I said, it happened to both QBs, and I think both are capable of running the offense.   There is no reason to make a change at this point, but Jeff will not hesitate to go to Crackel if Stanek is not going 12-14 for 262 with 4 touchdowns like he did today.     It has to be difficult for Crackel though as he has played so well this entire year and is a great QB.


Quoting stats is great but proves nothing.  2, three step drops (15 yards in the air ) which went to the big tight ends which so big nobody can miss and a duck to a wide reciever who was so open he had to stop, turn and wait proves a bad arm not a good accounted for 3 of the scores,  good play calling accounted for that NOT good passing.  Should have had a 5th TD when the reciever was in the south end zone and had inside position and Stanek threw it up for grabs rather than keep it low.    In my opinion the better QB is on the bench right now

[usee]

Interestingly both Wheaton and NCC now face teams this year they played last year on the road. Wheaton beat Bethel on the last play of the game up in Arden Hills in their first game last season and ONU downed NCC in Ada as Wenger was hurt for the season in the first half. Both teams that lost will have extra motivation to avenge a bitter defeat. A couple intersting story lines.

[Stagg Again!!]

I am sure that life will be good again once UWW has had a chance to extract its pound of flesh from FC and/or Trine (two interesting, if not tough, draws -- even for the Warhawks).  

UWW by 30+ in both of those games.   And it won't be as close as the score would indicate.

Nice call on the final spread HScoach, but from what I have heard and read, I think the game was closer than the score indicated.  I'm just trying to figure out if this game against FC met the WIAC definition of a "triple monkey stomp"?  Take away a two key sacks and couple of momentum changing turnovers (one fumble and one INT) and UWW is in a dogfight with #24 FC.  Hmmm....

[MasterJedi]

I am sure that life will be good again once UWW has had a chance to extract its pound of flesh from FC and/or Trine (two interesting, if not tough, draws -- even for the Warhawks).  

UWW by 30+ in both of those games.   And it won't be as close as the score would indicate.

Nice call on the final spread HScoach, but from what I have heard and read, I think the game was closer than the score indicated.  I'm just trying to figure out if this game against FC met the WIAC definition of a "triple monkey stomp"?  Take away a two key sacks and couple of momentum changing turnovers (one fumble and one INT) and UWW is in a dogfight with #24 FC.  Hmmm....

It was a close game. As I've stated elsewhere UWW started REALLY slow and playing the backup QB who's never started the game with only one career college pass (though a TD) before. Second half was a different story, if still not as good as UWW can play/has played in the past.

[Stagg Again!!]

It was a close game. As I've stated elsewhere UWW started REALLY slow and playing the backup QB who's never started the game with only one career college pass (though a TD) before. Second half was a different story, if still not as good as UWW can play/has played in the past.

So was this a "triple monkey stomp"??  Had it not been for the key FC turnovers, UWW would have won by 10-14 points.  Is that a "triple monkey stomp"?  ALL of the WIAC fans assured us, no, no they GUARANTEED us that the Warhawks would not only "triple monkey stomp" FC, but they would also "triple monkey stomp" NCC.  So, I am just trying to understand if allowing 400 yards of offense to the #24 team in the country meets the definition of a "triple monkey stomp".  Please help me out here.

[MasterJedi]

It was a close game. As I've stated elsewhere UWW started REALLY slow and playing the backup QB who's never started the game with only one career college pass (though a TD) before. Second half was a different story, if still not as good as UWW can play/has played in the past.

So was this a "triple monkey stomp"??  Had it not been for the key FC turnovers, UWW would have won by 10-14 points.  Is that a "triple monkey stomp"?  ALL of the WIAC fans assured us, no, no they GUARANTEED us that the Warhawks would not only "triple monkey stomp" FC, but they would also "triple monkey stomp" NCC.  So, I am just trying to understand if allowing 400 yards of offense to the #24 team in the country meets the definition of a "triple monkey stomp".  Please help me out here.

Score wise? Yes, they got blown out. Play wise? No. UWW played bad in the first half and a lot better but still not really good in the second half while Franklin played a great game the whole game. They employed a passing strategy similar to Linfield last year and were able to be pretty effective.

[usee]

It was a close game. As I've stated elsewhere UWW started REALLY slow and playing the backup QB who's never started the game with only one career college pass (though a TD) before. Second half was a different story, if still not as good as UWW can play/has played in the past.

So was this a "triple monkey stomp"??  Had it not been for the key FC turnovers, UWW would have won by 10-14 points.  Is that a "triple monkey stomp"?  ALL of the WIAC fans assured us, no, no they GUARANTEED us that the Warhawks would not only "triple monkey stomp" FC, but they would also "triple monkey stomp" NCC.  So, I am just trying to understand if allowing 400 yards of offense to the #24 team in the country meets the definition of a "triple monkey stomp".  Please help me out here.

Stagg- Beat ONU and you'll get your chance. No need to be a fool now.

[WarhawkDad]

It was a close game. As I've stated elsewhere UWW started REALLY slow and playing the backup QB who's never started the game with only one career college pass (though a TD) before. Second half was a different story, if still not as good as UWW can play/has played in the past.

So was this a "triple monkey stomp"??  Had it not been for the key FC turnovers, UWW would have won by 10-14 points.  Is that a "triple monkey stomp"?  ALL of the WIAC fans assured us, no, no they GUARANTEED us that the Warhawks would not only "triple monkey stomp" FC, but they would also "triple monkey stomp" NCC.  So, I am just trying to understand if allowing 400 yards of offense to the #24 team in the country meets the definition of a "triple monkey stomp".  Please help me out here.

I do not think "All of the WIAC fans" assured you of a triple monkey stomp. In fact, I think it was only one.  Also while Franklin may have been the overall 24 in the country, they were the #1 scoring offense in the country.

You know a 52-21 score with your second string quarterback, making his first start probably isn't a triple monkey stomp, but given the circumstances, it certainly works.    Good defenses get turnovers and the UWW defense is a good defense.   

[nccfan1]

I rarely post but have followed D3 for many years. In the past few years I have felt that MU and UWW have stood out. No matter your record, those two were light years ahead. I have watched NCC improve into a top notch team that can compete with all except the big two. This year, I started to think that maybe this is something different. And I felt this early in the season. They do what elite teams do. When they beat Weaton, in Weaton, I started to think that maybe after year of building a solid program, maybe they at at that point. After hearing all the noise from UWW posters and then following todays games, I think that the "monkey stomp", projected by the UWW faithful might be premature.  Here is my take. The NCC defense is the best the CCIW has seen in a long time. Maybe the best in D3. The offense is very, very, deep and will put points on the board regardless of opponent.  Over on the UWW board, they are now turning lemons into lemonade. Showering praise on Franklin. One poster said "who else could beat Franklin by 30"? Good question. But could Franklin put 21 pts up against NCC? I think that the upcoming game will speak volumes. If NCC beats ONU by at least 14, then you can say maybe, just maybe, NCC has moved into the elite and should give UWW pause. If the lose to ONU, then the point is moot.

[The Roop]

Since when do last second field goals count as 50 points ?? I thought St. Norbert had this one.

[Stagg Again!!]

Stagg- Beat ONU and you'll get your chance. No need to be a fool now.

Thank you for throwing a bucket of cold water in my face USee.  The point that I was trying to make (though a bit crudely) is that maybe UWW spent too much time worrying about their seeding and how pissed off they were at the NCAA when they should have been looking at their first round opponent.  Trust me, Trine, like FC, can score a bucket-load of points.  If UWW spends the week watching NCC film and worrying about the what they are going to do in Naperville, they may get into another surprisingly close game next week.  UWW and NCC need to take care of business in the second round before they should worry about the third round.  If they are both still around this time next week, then I will accept a bit more "triple monkey stomp" talk.  Until then, NCC and WC were 1-0 this week with big games against ONU and Bethel to look forward to.

[usee]

I rarely post but have followed D3 for many years. In the past few years I have felt that MU and UWW have stood out. No matter your record, those two were light years ahead. I have watched NCC improve into a top notch team that can compete with all except the big two. This year, I started to think that maybe this is something different. And I felt this early in the season. They do what elite teams do. When they beat Weaton, in Weaton, I started to think that maybe after year of building a solid program, maybe they at at that point. After hearing all the noise from UWW posters and then following todays games, I think that the "monkey stomp", projected by the UWW faithful might be premature.  Here is my take. The NCC defense is the best the CCIW has seen in a long time. Maybe the best in D3. The offense is very, very, deep and will put points on the board regardless of opponent.  Over on the UWW board, they are now turning lemons into lemonade. Showering praise on Franklin. One poster said "who else could beat Franklin by 30"? Good question. But could Franklin put 21 pts up against NCC? I think that the upcoming game will speak volumes. If NCC beats ONU by at least 14, then you can say maybe, just maybe, NCC has moved into the elite and should give UWW pause. If the lose to ONU, then the point is moot.

Statistically NCC is #6 in the country in defense. There are 5 teams ranked ahead of them in the national rankings and 3 of them are Wesley, Mt Union, and Whitewater. I think NCC's defense is very, very good and I have said I think they are the best defense the CCIW has sent to the playoffs since the Augie teams in the 80s. That said, I have seen Mt Union and Whitewater live a bunch of times over the past years and I can assure you their defenses are every bit as good as NCC. I wouldn't discount today's UWW/Franklin game as much as I would praise Franklin. They are a much better team than anyone gives them credit for. NCC knows that from as little as 2 years ago and by Franklin fan accounts, this years version is better than the one that knocked the cardinals out of the playoffs in 2008. I Also think the offense NCC faces this week in ONU will be the best offense they have seen all season.  And if they beat ONU ( I beleive they will ) the UWW offense and defense will be the best they have seen all season. I personally feel the NCC defense will give UWW all they can handle but I have my questions about the NCC offense. I really hope the UWW/NCC matchup happens as it will be a great game to watch!

[usee]

Stagg- Beat ONU and you'll get your chance. No need to be a fool now.

Thank you for throwing a bucket of cold water in my face USee.  The point that I was trying to make (though a bit crudely) is that maybe UWW spent too much time worrying about their seeding and how pissed off they were at the NCAA when they should have been looking at their first round opponent.  Trust me, Trine, like FC, can score a bucket-load of points.  If UWW spends the week watching NCC film and worrying about the what they are going to do in Naperville, they may get into another surprisingly close game next week.  UWW and NCC need to take care of business in the second round before they should worry about the third round.  If they are both still around this time next week, then I will accept a bit more "triple monkey stomp" talk.  Until then, NCC and WC were 1-0 this week with big games against ONU and Bethel to look forward to.

I understood your point. Your approach was condescending and not any better than some of the WIAC posters who made the orignal offensive posts. just my opinion.