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ncc_fan

The photo on the main d3football.com page shows Wheaton QB Jordan Roberts wearing gloves on both hands.  Is that unconventional?  I don't recall seeing other gloved QBs, but Roberts' certainly played well today while wearing gloves.

usee

ncc_fan-

he is protecting the broken thumb on his throwing hand. he usually doesn't wear gloves.

bleedpurple

Quote from: nccfan1 on November 20, 2010, 09:44:57 PM
I rarely post but have followed D3 for many years. In the past few years I have felt that MU and UWW have stood out. No matter your record, those two were light years ahead. I have watched NCC improve into a top notch team that can compete with all except the big two. This year, I started to think that maybe this is something different. And I felt this early in the season. They do what elite teams do. When they beat Weaton, in Weaton, I started to think that maybe after year of building a solid program, maybe they at at that point. After hearing all the noise from UWW posters and then following todays games, I think that the "monkey stomp", projected by the UWW faithful might be premature.  Here is my take. The NCC defense is the best the CCIW has seen in a long time. Maybe the best in D3. The offense is very, very, deep and will put points on the board regardless of opponent.  Over on the UWW board, they are now turning lemons into lemonade. Showering praise on Franklin. One poster said "who else could beat Franklin by 30"? Good question. But could Franklin put 21 pts up against NCC? I think that the upcoming game will speak volumes. If NCC beats ONU by at least 14, then you can say maybe, just maybe, NCC has moved into the elite and should give UWW pause. If the lose to ONU, then the point is moot.

Having watched this afternoon's game against Franklin, I have to admit I was very impressed with the Grizzlies.  They played hard, they did a great job in containing the UW-W running game (186 yards when you don't include the -29 on QB sacks), and they passed for 373 yards on 72 attempts.  They have the top ranked QB in the country. Not including sacks, Franklin gained only 40 yards rushing in 26 attempts. Since when is it turning lemons into lemonade by giving credit to an opponent for a job well done?

Could Franklin have scored 21 points against NCC?
Considering UW-W came into the game ranked 39th Nationally against the pass and NCC came into today ranked 52nd against the pass, I think an argument could be made that, yes, Franklin could put up 21 points against NCC. 

As far as your point of WIAC posters "turning lemons into lemonade":
I disagree with your premise. What lemons?  UW-W won the game by 31 points.  I find it amazing how desperate people must be to find fault with this team if they are going to criticize them for winning by 31.  After the game, a poster was mocking UW-W fans for thinking we deserved a #1 seed. I posed the question, "The way Franklin played today, who else in the country would have beaten them by 31 points with their backup quarterback?". 

I'm sorry but I'm not buying it.  There are not "lemons" in a 31 point victory.  This IS the Franklin team that eliminated NCC by 10 points just two years ago. Actually, Franklin fans will tell you this team is better.  I know,  I know NCC is way better than they were two years ago, too. And they'd better be.  Because a 31 point "lemon" victory is light years different than a 10 point loss. 

BoBo

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Quote from: Stagg or Bust on November 20, 2010, 09:05:53 PM
So was this a "triple monkey stomp"??  Had it not been for the key FC turnovers, UWW would have won by 10-14 points.  Is that a "triple monkey stomp"? ALL of the WIAC fans assured us, no, no they GUARANTEED us that the Warhawks would not only "triple monkey stomp" FC, but they would also "triple monkey stomp" NCC.  So, I am just trying to understand if allowing 400 yards of offense to the #24 team in the country meets the definition of a "triple monkey stomp".  Please help me out here.

JMO, but I'm not sure why you are using the term "triple monkey stomp" to describe this situation. I went back through the last 27 pages of the WIAC board and I hate to inform you that the words "triple monkey stomp" was used only once (by one poster obviously) in this post:

Quote from: Warhawk 96 on November 14, 2010, 04:56:51 PM
I don't think anyone is worried. We're just pissed that we have to go all the way to Naperville to watch NCC get triple monkey stomped by us instead of watching it in Perkins stadium.

Your claim that  
QuoteALL of the WIAC fans assured us, no, no they GUARANTEED us that the Warhawks would not only "triple monkey stomp" FC...

is not only false, but the 1 poster making the statement (probably out of frustration with the National Committee selections), never directed it toward Franklin (as you claim), but rather towards NCC. Please correct me if I'm wrong, but it appears you made a blanket statement about all Warhawk fans, without any reference, that is totally false.  :o   ::)   ;)  I haven't gone through the CCIW pages to research your claims, but saying all WIAC fans made that statement is setting yourself up for criticism.


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WHERE MY BRAIN GOES
FROM "YOU PROBABLY
SHOULDN'T SAY THAT," TO
"WHAT THE HELL, LET'S SEE
WHAT HAPPENS."

hyrooster

Here we go again with the whole NCC - UWW crap. I for one am more worried about the NCC - ONU game and I believe the whole NCC staff and team will be focused on that. So much so that the local or for that matter any player will not be allowed to go home as in years past to spend Thanksgiving with their families before the second round game. This is truly a change to past practices. I think this shows that NCC is dedicated to playing a very good ONU team. Period.
Congrats to WC for winning their game and keeping both of the CCIW's Stagg Bowl hopes alive. 

HScoach

All I know about this NCC / UWW crap is that North Central has a much, MUCH tougher opponent in Round 2 than Whitewater does.   I have zero doubt that Whitewater lose this Saturday.  North Central I'm not so sure.  Yes, they're a clear favorite, but ONU isn't going to be cake walk.  Their well coached and very solid.  Not flashy or with great skill people, but they'll make you work for 60 minutes. 
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ncc_fan

Quote from: HScoach on November 21, 2010, 09:44:05 AM
All I know about this NCC / UWW crap is that North Central has a much, MUCH tougher opponent in Round 2 than Whitewater does.   I have zero doubt that Whitewater lose this Saturday.  North Central I'm not so sure.  Yes, they're a clear favorite, but ONU isn't going to be cake walk.  Their well coached and very solid.  Not flashy or with great skill people, but they'll make you work for 60 minutes. 

NCC people know from experience that ONU won't be a cakewalk.  I'm looking forward to an exciting game.

FormerCard

Quote from: ncc_fan on November 21, 2010, 11:55:36 AM
Quote from: HScoach on November 21, 2010, 09:44:05 AM
All I know about this NCC / UWW crap is that North Central has a much, MUCH tougher opponent in Round 2 than Whitewater does.   I have zero doubt that Whitewater lose this Saturday.  North Central I'm not so sure.  Yes, they're a clear favorite, but ONU isn't going to be cake walk.  Their well coached and very solid.  Not flashy or with great skill people, but they'll make you work for 60 minutes. 

NCC people know from experience that ONU won't be a cakewalk.  I'm looking forward to an exciting game.

After Round 1, there are zero cakewalks.  go cards
Go Cards

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Warhawk 96

Quote from: nccfan1 on November 20, 2010, 09:44:57 PM
I rarely post but have followed D3 for many years. In the past few years I have felt that MU and UWW have stood out. No matter your record, those two were light years ahead. I have watched NCC improve into a top notch team that can compete with all except the big two. This year, I started to think that maybe this is something different. And I felt this early in the season. They do what elite teams do. When they beat Weaton, in Weaton, I started to think that maybe after year of building a solid program, maybe they at at that point. After hearing all the noise from UWW posters and then following todays games, I think that the "monkey stomp", projected by the UWW faithful might be premature.  Here is my take. The NCC defense is the best the CCIW has seen in a long time. Maybe the best in D3. The offense is very, very, deep and will put points on the board regardless of opponent.  Over on the UWW board, they are now turning lemons into lemonade. Showering praise on Franklin. One poster said "who else could beat Franklin by 30"? Good question. But could Franklin put 21 pts up against NCC? I think that the upcoming game will speak volumes. If NCC beats ONU by at least 14, then you can say maybe, just maybe, NCC has moved into the elite and should give UWW pause. If the lose to ONU, then the point is moot.

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TCrawf5825

Some factors in the ONU - NCC game is that NCC players have to take finals Monday - Wednesday so for some of them the game will be hard to focus on for the next few days not to mention the ones who cram and then don't get much sleep for a few days. Another factors that the last time these teams played ONU won in Ohio and many NCC players are still on the team (NCC won at home the year before), not to mention NCC is at home this year.  I believe NCC should win but just want to point out a few intangibles that factor into the game preps

HScoach

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Mugsy

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Quote from: TCrawf5825 on November 21, 2010, 07:23:45 PM
Some factors in the ONU - NCC game is that NCC players have to take finals Monday - Wednesday so for some of them the game will be hard to focus on for the next few days not to mention the ones who cram and then don't get much sleep for a few days. Another factors that the last time these teams played ONU won in Ohio and many NCC players are still on the team (NCC won at home the year before), not to mention NCC is at home this year.  I believe NCC should win but just want to point out a few intangibles that factor into the game preps

Quote from: HScoach on November 21, 2010, 09:09:28 PM
Finals is a lame excuse.  

Most NCC posters would not have posted this.  TCrawf5825 is newer to the board.

My first reaction was the post smacked of paving the way for excuses in the event things don't go as planned.  All D3 players are student athletes.  All are responsible for taking care of business both on the field and in the classroom.  Should not have to be stated as if this is unique to NCC.

And in the event ONU beats NCC on the field, you would NOT hear the players or coaches complain that "well we had finals this week, so we could not prepare the way we wanted and we are tired because we had to stay up studying".
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emma17

A great day for the CCIW, I was most impressed by Wheaton's win.  I didn't think they would get by Coe.  I haven't seen WC play in person, so I don't know how good their starting QB is.  I know he didn't play against NCC, would he have made a big difference in that game?  

As a UWW fan, I'm glad the Warhawks have to play both Franklin and Trine.  If UWW gets past Trine, I'd like to think the pass defense will be geared up for a tough NCC offense.