FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[matblake]

Coach Swider's postgame thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u142P9geY5s

[Titan Q]

Coach Swider's postgame thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u142P9geY5s

As a coach, I'm sure the natural reaction right after a loss is to focus completely on what your team did wrong.  I do think Coach Swider is being a little unfair to IWU's effort though when he says:

"And the sad thing is that everything, everything was just self-inflicted wounds - just plays that our kids could have made, and things that could have been done differently, and things that it wasn't our opponent doing things to us."

Even though his next statement is, "You give Illinois Wesleyan credit, they played till the end and won a football game, but it was a tough pill to swallow, it really was," it doesn't sound like he really is giving IWU much credit.

I think IWU and Wheaton are two extremely evenly matched football teams.  The Titans happened to play better last night, make less mistakes, and thus, led for the entire game (by 2 scores for about 1/4 of the game) and came away with the win.  I don't think a completely neutral observer (which I am certainly not) would agree that "everything was just self-inflicted wounds."

Again, probably just how a coach's mind operates immediately following a tough loss.  I get that.

[Titan Q]

Some audio comments from IWU head coach Norm Eash and defensive players P.J. Cummings and Will Jenkins...

http://wjbc.com/illinois-wesleyan-stays-perfect-upends-6th-ranked-wheaton/


And the Pantagraph's article...

http://www.pantagraph.com/sports/college/football/article_eb2af408-eca5-11e0-9150-001cc4c03286.html

[ncc_fan]

The Naperville Sun published two articles about NCC's win at Carthage:
http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/7970760-419/north-central-college-claims-cciw-opener-with-shutout.html
http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/7974795-419/cardinals-defense-goes-into-shutdown-mode.html

[Son of Tailgater]

Augustana is 0-4...and heads to North Central next weekend.  Unbelievable.

I am shocked as well. I am also shocked the North Park lost the way that they did. I was glad to see Carthage only gave up 14 points in the first half and 24 over all but you have to score to win. Congrats to IWU beating Wheaton, sounded like the game of the week in the CCIW

[NCF]

with all of the craziness in the top 25 this season who knows how this will all play out! every week brings  more surprises. that's why they play the games!

[izzy stradlin]

Coach Swider's postgame thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u142P9geY5s

As a coach, I'm sure the natural reaction right after a loss is to focus completely on what your team did wrong.  I do think Coach Swider is being a little unfair to IWU's effort though when he says:

"And the sad thing is that everything, everything was just self-inflicted wounds - just plays that our kids could have made, and things that could have been done differently, and things that it wasn't our opponent doing things to us."

Even though his next statement is, "You give Illinois Wesleyan credit, they played till the end and won a football game, but it was a tough pill to swallow, it really was," it doesn't sound like he really is giving IWU much credit.

I think IWU and Wheaton are two extremely evenly matched football teams.  The Titans happened to play better last night, make less mistakes, and thus, led for the entire game (by 2 scores for about 1/4 of the game) and came away with the win.  I don't think a completely neutral observer (which I am certainly not) would agree that "everything was just self-inflicted wounds."

Again, probably just how a coach's mind operates immediately following a tough loss.  I get that.

It always annoys me when in a loss, opposing coaches make it all about the way they did or didn't play. Truth is you are always making or prone to making those mistakes, but against weaker opponents they don't matter.

The biggest difference in this game for me was the QB play.  If you watched the line of scrimmage, there really wasn't much of a difference in how quick pressure was getting to Gallik or Meador. The difference is Gallik showed great awareness in making quick throws (even if it had to be incomplete) or using his feet while keeping his eyes down field.  That kept IWU out of 15+ YTG situations.

Meador holds onto the ball too long.  This isn't new.  He took 4 sacks against Olivet in three quarters (4 last night also).  That's a big problem but against a team like Olivet, 2nd or 3rd and 18 aren't as significant.  Even if you kill a couple drives, chances are you will score on the next.  Against IWU there is even a better chance your drive is killed and facing a good D you need the opportunity of every possession.

Maybe that and penalties are self-inflicted, but it's the opponent that makes you lose because you can't overcome those things.

[Tailgater]

Greg, I did my duty and picked NPU, while most pickers went with the Jays.  That was supposed to guarantee a win.

What the heck happened - I honestly expected a close Viking loss, if not a victory.

Someone may need to do a well-being check on Professor Sager. I fear he may have fallen and can't get back up to the keyboard. 

[mr_b]

Greg, I did my duty and picked NPU, while most pickers went with the Jays.  That was supposed to guarantee a win.

What the heck happened - I honestly expected a close Viking loss, if not a victory.

Someone may need to do a well-being check on Professor Sager. I fear he may have fallen and can't get back up to the keyboard. 

Don't worry about Greg... he'll get back to posting shortly.  I suspect he stayed in Elmhurst for the two soccer North Park-Elmhurst matches and had a pretty full Sunday schedule as well.

[Mugsy]

Coach Swider's postgame thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u142P9geY5s

As a coach, I'm sure the natural reaction right after a loss is to focus completely on what your team did wrong.  I do think Coach Swider is being a little unfair to IWU's effort though when he says:

"And the sad thing is that everything, everything was just self-inflicted wounds - just plays that our kids could have made, and things that could have been done differently, and things that it wasn't our opponent doing things to us."

Even though his next statement is, "You give Illinois Wesleyan credit, they played till the end and won a football game, but it was a tough pill to swallow, it really was," it doesn't sound like he really is giving IWU much credit.

I think IWU and Wheaton are two extremely evenly matched football teams.  The Titans happened to play better last night, make less mistakes, and thus, led for the entire game (by 2 scores for about 1/4 of the game) and came away with the win.  I don't think a completely neutral observer (which I am certainly not) would agree that "everything was just self-inflicted wounds.

Again, probably just how a coach's mind operates immediately following a tough loss.  I get that.

I've often thought about posting Coach Swider's post game comments, but I decided against it because of how they might sound to those outside of the Wheaton program and alum.

Please consider the intended audience of this post game summary.  It is for Wheaton alum, parents and fans. So of course it will be slanted towards the disappointment of the loss and mistakes that were made by the coaches and players.  Not so much on "giving IWU their due."  You can interpret all you want about how it did not give IWU enough credit, but Wheaton expects to win the CCIW championship and they made critical mistakes ("self inflicted" mistakes, like 5-6 illegal procedures, missed assignments, etc...).  In a post game summary to Wheaton alum and fans, he is not going to go on and on and on about how IWU played, especially in a game that was so closely contended.

As you point out it was immediately after a very, very tough loss, where Wheaton did make many, many mistakes that cost them the game.  Granted IWU had a part in some of the miscues, but not all.  This video is not intended for the general public, so it may not be as gracious as an IWU fan would want.

Anyone who knows Coach Swider would know he did not intend to insult or take away from IWU's victory.  But within the context of the Wheaton coaching staff and players, they did not play their best game and had higher expectations than their play last night.

[Mugsy]

New D3Football poll is out.

NCC up to #6.
IWU moves into the poll at #18
Wheaton falls to #19

[ncc_fan]

Matt Wenger played on special teams in his first game with the Omaha Nighthawks.  Here's the box score:
http://www.ufl-football.com/sites/default/files/Week03_OMA_SAC_GameBook.pdf

[ncc58]

The comments from Coach Swider are the same as one might expect from Coaches Thorne, Eash, Lester, etc. Their first responsibilities are to their players, their parents, alumni, and supporters of the program. I thought Coach Swider spoke well of where he thought the Wheaton program is and what they will do next. There are still 6 regular season games to play.

We'll see how IWU plays the rest of the season to see if their programs is equal to Wheaton and NCC. We'll see if they continue to stay focused or if they have a mental letdown. There is no doubt that they have athletes, and they may have the best QB in the conference.

[AndOne]

Coach Swider's postgame thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u142P9geY5s

As a coach, I'm sure the natural reaction right after a loss is to focus completely on what your team did wrong.  I do think Coach Swider is being a little unfair to IWU's effort though when he says:

"And the sad thing is that everything, everything was just self-inflicted wounds - just plays that our kids could have made, and things that could have been done differently, and things that it wasn't our opponent doing things to us."

Even though his next statement is, "You give Illinois Wesleyan credit, they played till the end and won a football game, but it was a tough pill to swallow, it really was," it doesn't sound like he really is giving IWU much credit.

I think IWU and Wheaton are two extremely evenly matched football teams.  The Titans happened to play better last night, make less mistakes, and thus, led for the entire game (by 2 scores for about 1/4 of the game) and came away with the win.  I don't think a completely neutral observer (which I am certainly not) would agree that "everything was just self-inflicted wounds.

Again, probably just how a coach's mind operates immediately following a tough loss.  I get that.

I've often thought about posting Coach Swider's post game comments, but I decided against it because of how they might sound to those outside of the Wheaton program and alum.

Please consider the intended audience of this post game summary.  It is for Wheaton alum, parents and fans. So of course it will be slanted towards the disappointment of the loss and mistakes that were made by the coaches and players.  Not so much on "giving IWU their due."  You can interpret all you want about how it did not give IWU enough credit, but Wheaton expects to win the CCIW championship and they made critical mistakes ("self inflicted" mistakes, like 5-6 illegal procedures, missed assignments, etc...).  In a post game summary to Wheaton alum and fans, he is not going to go on and on and on about how IWU played, especially in a game that was so closely contended.

As you point out it was immediately after a very, very tough loss, where Wheaton did make many, many mistakes that cost them the game.  Granted IWU had a part in some of the miscues, but not all.  This video is not intended for the general public, so it may not be as gracious as an IWU fan would want.

Anyone who knows Coach Swider would know he did not intend to insult or take away from IWU's victory.  But within the context of the Wheaton coaching staff and players, they did not play their best game and had higher expectations than their play last night.

Occasionally, victory in itself may not be enough either for a particular team or its fans. Rather, they feel an air of superiority wherein a victory over an opponent on the field of play is not enough and, in addition, they expect at least a bit of post game ass-kissing from their vanquished foe.
Of course, there is no evidence to suggest that was the case in this instance, but the fact is the situation does exist within all levels throughout the world of sport. 

[izzy stradlin]

Coach Swider's postgame thoughts http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u142P9geY5s

As a coach, I'm sure the natural reaction right after a loss is to focus completely on what your team did wrong.  I do think Coach Swider is being a little unfair to IWU's effort though when he says:

"And the sad thing is that everything, everything was just self-inflicted wounds - just plays that our kids could have made, and things that could have been done differently, and things that it wasn't our opponent doing things to us."

Even though his next statement is, "You give Illinois Wesleyan credit, they played till the end and won a football game, but it was a tough pill to swallow, it really was," it doesn't sound like he really is giving IWU much credit.

I think IWU and Wheaton are two extremely evenly matched football teams.  The Titans happened to play better last night, make less mistakes, and thus, led for the entire game (by 2 scores for about 1/4 of the game) and came away with the win.  I don't think a completely neutral observer (which I am certainly not) would agree that "everything was just self-inflicted wounds.

Again, probably just how a coach's mind operates immediately following a tough loss.  I get that.

I've often thought about posting Coach Swider's post game comments, but I decided against it because of how they might sound to those outside of the Wheaton program and alum.

Please consider the intended audience of this post game summary.  It is for Wheaton alum, parents and fans. So of course it will be slanted towards the disappointment of the loss and mistakes that were made by the coaches and players.  Not so much on "giving IWU their due."  You can interpret all you want about how it did not give IWU enough credit, but Wheaton expects to win the CCIW championship and they made critical mistakes ("self inflicted" mistakes, like 5-6 illegal procedures, missed assignments, etc...).  In a post game summary to Wheaton alum and fans, he is not going to go on and on and on about how IWU played, especially in a game that was so closely contended.

As you point out it was immediately after a very, very tough loss, where Wheaton did make many, many mistakes that cost them the game.  Granted IWU had a part in some of the miscues, but not all.  This video is not intended for the general public, so it may not be as gracious as an IWU fan would want.

Anyone who knows Coach Swider would know he did not intend to insult or take away from IWU's victory.  But within the context of the Wheaton coaching staff and players, they did not play their best game and had higher expectations than their play last night.

Occasionally, victory in itself may not be enough either for a particular team or its fans. Rather, they feel an air of superiority wherein a victory over an opponent on the field of play is not enough and, in addition, they expect at least a bit of post game ass-kissing from their vanquished foe.
Of course, there is no evidence to suggest that was the case in this instance, but the fact is the situation does exist within all levels throughout the world of sport. 

Yes.  This is very true.