FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Bash-Dad #84]

Anyone check out the Around the Nation? I guess Mr. Frank Rossi isn't giving NCC a chance to get past Dubuque.

"With that loss of privileges comes a very challenging Round 2 matchup [for Mount] (either Centre or Hampden-Sydney) and Round 3 matchup (likely either Wabash or Dubuque). "

I would put some $$$ down that neither Wabash or Dubuque makes it to the third round game.

That is why they play the games. While I wouldn't make that bet, we like being the underdogs! 

[NCF]

Anyone check out the Around the Nation? I guess Mr. Frank Rossi isn't giving NCC a chance to get past Dubuque.

"With that loss of privileges comes a very challenging Round 2 matchup [for Mount] (either Centre or Hampden-Sydney) and Round 3 matchup (likely either Wabash or Dubuque). "

I would put some $$$ down that neither Wabash or Dubuque makes it to the third round game.

That is why they play the games. While I wouldn't make that bet, we like being the underdogs! 

Exactly!! 

[Langhorst_Ghost]

Long time d3.com and CCIW supporter, first time post...i felt compelled to approach a topic close to my program - the issue of Garrett Meador over Scottie Williams for CCIW OPOY.  Both were terrific, no doubt - but from my angle, the coaches' vote got this one wrong.  A few points...

Raw Stats Comparison in CCIW play (both were certainly the best at their position) -
Williams - 174 carries, 1152, yards, 6.6 ypc,  8tds, 164.6 yds/game, 20 catches
Meador - 168/260 (65%), 19 td, 5 int, 2119 yards, 302.7yds/game

Additionally - Williams is the first player to eclipse the 1,000 yard mark in the CCIW since 2004 and his 1,152 in conference play is the 5th highest total EVER.  That's pretty special.  Meador turned in only the 9th 2,000 yard passing season in CCIW history - with Evan Jones racking up 2,536 two years ago.  Also impressive - but what stands out, is WAY the two went about building their statistical resumes (see next point)...

Meador accounted for all but 15 pass attempts for the Thunder in 2011, while Williams shared the load for EC, carrying a total of 224 times on the year out of a team rushing attempt total of 440, and Andrew Tubek (Scottie's primary back-up) scored 6 tds on 63 carries and 379 yards in 2011.

Meador accounted for 2,852 total yards passing on the season, while Scottie's QB (Furco) tallied 2,261 yards passing...the big difference here - Wheaton's rushing game was not a factor - with one back barely over 400 yards and a team total of 1,600 on the year (w/ Meador accounting 224 - not counting sacks).  EC's total rushing output was 2,455 on the year.  Bottom line - Scottie was just a part, a really good part, of the 22nd ranked offense in the country (2nd in CCIW), while Meador threw the ball more times (348) than Wheaton even attempted rushing plays, excluding sacks (310)! 

For Williams to shine in a potent, BALANCED offense the way he did - that's special.  Meador was the 2011 version of 2009 Evan Jones, throwing the ball in a pass-happy offense to two all-conference receivers.

Versus the top defenses in CCIW, Scottie went off - 194 vs. Wheaton, 127 vs. IWU, and 199 vs. Carthage.  He struggled against NCC, but so did Meador - both had their least productive games vs. the Cardinals (NCC, by the way, gave up a total of 34 points TOTAL in conference play - unbelievable). 

Take a look at how they fared versus two of the worst defenses in the CCIW...

Meador took all the snaps vs. NPU, but only had to throw it 18 times for 118 yards, while Scottie went for 235 on just 19 carries (53 total team carries).  In limited duty, Williams obviously made the most of his carries.

In a game Wheaton lead 42-16 in the 3rd quarter vs. Millikin, Meador padded his stats and threw the ball 45 timesf or 5 tds (including one in the 4th quarter).  Meador only handed the ball off 15 times in the 20 point win.  Scottie went for 238 on 30 carries and 2 tds (7.8 avg) in a game the Jays had to score in the last minute to beat the Big Blue.

I rest my case. Scottie is a special player on an explosive, balanced offense - no doubt about it, and will likely finish in the top 5 all-time in career rushing yardage in the CCIW.  Meador, while very talented, and certainly in the conversation for OPOY and all the while deserving of his recognition on the first team, is not on the same level as Williams, simply put.

I would love to hear the thoughts of other CCIW fans...



               

[CardinalAlum]

Long time d3.com and CCIW supporter, first time post...i felt compelled to approach a topic close to my program - the issue of Garrett Meador over Scottie Williams for CCIW OPOY.  Both were terrific, no doubt - but from my angle, the coaches' vote got this one wrong.  A few points...

Raw Stats Comparison in CCIW play (both were certainly the best at their position) -
Williams - 174 carries, 1152, yards, 6.6 ypc,  8tds, 164.6 yds/game, 20 catches
Meador - 168/260 (65%), 19 td, 5 int, 2119 yards, 302.7yds/game

Additionally - Williams is the first player to eclipse the 1,000 yard mark in the CCIW since 2004 and his 1,152 in conference play is the 5th highest total EVER.  That's pretty special.  Meador turned in only the 9th 2,000 yard passing season in CCIW history - with Evan Jones racking up 2,536 two years ago.  Also impressive - but what stands out, is WAY the two went about building their statistical resumes (see next point)...

Meador accounted for all but 15 pass attempts for the Thunder in 2011, while Williams shared the load for EC, carrying a total of 224 times on the year out of a team rushing attempt total of 440, and Andrew Tubek (Scottie's primary back-up) scored 6 tds on 63 carries and 379 yards in 2011.

Meador accounted for 2,852 total yards passing on the season, while Scottie's QB (Furco) tallied 2,261 yards passing...the big difference here - Wheaton's rushing game was not a factor - with one back barely over 400 yards and a team total of 1,600 on the year (w/ Meador accounting 224 - not counting sacks).  EC's total rushing output was 2,455 on the year.  Bottom line - Scottie was just a part, a really good part, of the 22nd ranked offense in the country (2nd in CCIW), while Meador threw the ball more times (348) than Wheaton even attempted rushing plays, excluding sacks (310)! 

For Williams to shine in a potent, BALANCED offense the way he did - that's special.  Meador was the 2011 version of 2009 Evan Jones, throwing the ball in a pass-happy offense to two all-conference receivers.

Versus the top defenses in CCIW, Scottie went off - 194 vs. Wheaton, 127 vs. IWU, and 199 vs. Carthage.  He struggled against NCC, but so did Meador - both had their least productive games vs. the Cardinals (NCC, by the way, gave up a total of 34 points TOTAL in conference play - unbelievable). 

Take a look at how they fared versus two of the worst defenses in the CCIW...

Meador took all the snaps vs. NPU, but only had to throw it 18 times for 118 yards, while Scottie went for 235 on just 19 carries (53 total team carries).  In limited duty, Williams obviously made the most of his carries.

In a game Wheaton lead 42-16 in the 3rd quarter vs. Millikin, Meador padded his stats and threw the ball 45 timesf or 5 tds (including one in the 4th quarter).  Meador only handed the ball off 15 times in the 20 point win.  Scottie went for 238 on 30 carries and 2 tds (7.8 avg) in a game the Jays had to score in the last minute to beat the Big Blue.

I rest my case. Scottie is a special player on an explosive, balanced offense - no doubt about it, and will likely finish in the top 5 all-time in career rushing yardage in the CCIW.  Meador, while very talented, and certainly in the conversation for OPOY and all the while deserving of his recognition on the first team, is not on the same level as Williams, simply put.

I would love to hear the thoughts of other CCIW fans...



               

Paging Mugsy.....Paging USee..... 

Simply put....IMHO, you're wrong!  Meador was the most outstanding offensive player in the conference on a top 20 team in the nation.  Meador was the Wheaton offense and you said it....without a rushing game to help him.  Everyone in the conference knew he was going to throw and he still completed almost 65% of his passes.  238 and 230 against Millikin and North Park for Williams doesn't impress me too much.  He is a special talent and very deserving of First team all conference but Meador was the Outstanding offensive player in the conference.  The coaches got it right.

[New Tradition]

Long time d3.com and CCIW supporter, first time post...i felt compelled to approach a topic close to my program - the issue of Garrett Meador over Scottie Williams for CCIW OPOY.  Both were terrific, no doubt - but from my angle, the coaches' vote got this one wrong.  A few points...

Raw Stats Comparison in CCIW play (both were certainly the best at their position) -
Williams - 174 carries, 1152, yards, 6.6 ypc,  8tds, 164.6 yds/game, 20 catches
Meador - 168/260 (65%), 19 td, 5 int, 2119 yards, 302.7yds/game

Additionally - Williams is the first player to eclipse the 1,000 yard mark in the CCIW since 2004 and his 1,152 in conference play is the 5th highest total EVER.  That's pretty special.  Meador turned in only the 9th 2,000 yard passing season in CCIW history - with Evan Jones racking up 2,536 two years ago.  Also impressive - but what stands out, is WAY the two went about building their statistical resumes (see next point)...

Meador accounted for all but 15 pass attempts for the Thunder in 2011, while Williams shared the load for EC, carrying a total of 224 times on the year out of a team rushing attempt total of 440, and Andrew Tubek (Scottie's primary back-up) scored 6 tds on 63 carries and 379 yards in 2011.

Meador accounted for 2,852 total yards passing on the season, while Scottie's QB (Furco) tallied 2,261 yards passing...the big difference here - Wheaton's rushing game was not a factor - with one back barely over 400 yards and a team total of 1,600 on the year (w/ Meador accounting 224 - not counting sacks).  EC's total rushing output was 2,455 on the year.  Bottom line - Scottie was just a part, a really good part, of the 22nd ranked offense in the country (2nd in CCIW), while Meador threw the ball more times (348) than Wheaton even attempted rushing plays, excluding sacks (310)! 

For Williams to shine in a potent, BALANCED offense the way he did - that's special.  Meador was the 2011 version of 2009 Evan Jones, throwing the ball in a pass-happy offense to two all-conference receivers.

Versus the top defenses in CCIW, Scottie went off - 194 vs. Wheaton, 127 vs. IWU, and 199 vs. Carthage.  He struggled against NCC, but so did Meador - both had their least productive games vs. the Cardinals (NCC, by the way, gave up a total of 34 points TOTAL in conference play - unbelievable). 

Take a look at how they fared versus two of the worst defenses in the CCIW...

Meador took all the snaps vs. NPU, but only had to throw it 18 times for 118 yards, while Scottie went for 235 on just 19 carries (53 total team carries).  In limited duty, Williams obviously made the most of his carries.

In a game Wheaton lead 42-16 in the 3rd quarter vs. Millikin, Meador padded his stats and threw the ball 45 timesf or 5 tds (including one in the 4th quarter).  Meador only handed the ball off 15 times in the 20 point win.  Scottie went for 238 on 30 carries and 2 tds (7.8 avg) in a game the Jays had to score in the last minute to beat the Big Blue.

I rest my case. Scottie is a special player on an explosive, balanced offense - no doubt about it, and will likely finish in the top 5 all-time in career rushing yardage in the CCIW.  Meador, while very talented, and certainly in the conversation for OPOY and all the while deserving of his recognition on the first team, is not on the same level as Williams, simply put.

I would love to hear the thoughts of other CCIW fans...



               

I've gotta side with CardinalAlum on this, but your research is very impressive.  Welcome to the boards.  Good to have the (very well thought out) opinions of another Elmhurst poster! 

[Mugsy]

Paging Mugsy.....Paging USee..... 

I'll post a rebuttal later tonight when I have a chance to more properly formulate a response worthy of the time Langhorst_Ghost spent.

[blue_jays]

Meador over Williams actually pretty easy call for coaches. Best quarterback in league on ranked team that finished 3rd in conference over best running back on an OK team that finished 4th in CCIW. In head to head matchup, Meador put it away by halftime. In a battle of two best players at their positions, better team wins.

PASSING AVG/GAME   Team Cl  G Att Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds TD Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. Meador, Garrett WHEA SR  7 260 168   5  64.6 2119 19 302.7
2. Gallik, Rob.... IWU  SO  7 211 129   9  61.1 1584  8 226.3
3. Furco, Joe..... ELMH JR  7 207 114   7  55.1 1446 13 206.6
4. Holmes, Matt... MILL JR  7 191  94  11  49.2 1403 11 200.4

RUSHING            Team Cl  G  Att  Yds   Avg TD Long Yds/G
-----------------------------------------------------------
1. Williams, Scott ELMH JR  7  174 1152   6.6  8   61 164.6
2. Hassan, Matt... NPU  JR  7  147  823   5.6  2   45 117.6
3. Kukuc, Nick.... NCC  JR  7   91  813   8.9  5   69 116.1

[USee]

Langhorst,

I would have had no problem with Scottie Williams as OPOY this year. I thought it was a pickem. I don't agree Williams was on a different level than Meador. Keep in mind Meador was the back up QB in camp this year. SW is a great player, one of the better RBs I have seen in the CCIW the last 25 years.

The good news is he is just a junior and Meador is a senior. The bad news is Meador is likely returning for a 5th year to finish his eligibility.

[Mugsy]

Long time d3.com and CCIW supporter, first time post...i felt compelled to approach a topic close to my program - the issue of Garrett Meador over Scottie Williams for CCIW OPOY.  Both were terrific, no doubt - but from my angle, the coaches' vote got this one wrong.  A few points...

Raw Stats Comparison in CCIW play (both were certainly the best at their position) -
Williams - 174 carries, 1152, yards, 6.6 ypc,  8tds, 164.6 yds/game, 20 catches
Meador - 168/260 (65%), 19 td, 5 int, 2119 yards, 302.7yds/game

I would love to hear the thoughts of other CCIW fans...

First of all welcome to the CCIW board.  Excellent first post.  +K   Although I disagree with your opinion...  (what a surprise)

[Disclaimer]: This is a brutally long post and will likely not change Langhorst_Ghost's opinion.  But it does offer rebuttal to his points. 

One other stat to consider before digging into the points made:
Meador accounted for 57% of Wheaton's scoring (19 TD passes, 2 TD runs)
Williams accounted for 26% of Elmhurt's scoring (8 TD's rushing, 1 TD receiving)

Additionally - Williams is the first player to eclipse the 1,000 yard mark in the CCIW since 2004 and his 1,152 in conference play is the 5th highest total EVER.  That's pretty special.  Meador turned in only the 9th 2,000 yard passing season in CCIW history - with Evan Jones racking up 2,536 two years ago.

ONLY the 9th?  ONLY?  2000 yards passing during the CCIW portion of a season is roughly equivalent to a 1000 yard rushing milestone.  If you look at the 10th highest passing output, it is 2057 yards.  Not too many more 2000 yard seasons below that.  In the same way if you look at the 10th highest rushing output, 1099 yards indicates there haven't been too many 1000 yard rushing seasons.  I view the 2000 yards passing season by Meador and 1000 yard rushing season by Williams as very similar milestones.

Single Season Passing Records:
1.   2958 Keith Bishop, Wheaton, 1983
2.   2797 Keith Bishop, Wheaton, 1985
3.   2566 Keith Bishop, Wheaton, 1984
4.   2536 Evan Jones, Carthage, 2009
5.   2289 Ben Furman, Wheaton, 1988
6.   2132 Dave McCarrell, Wheaton, 1982
7.   2119 Garret Meador, Wheaton 2011
8.   2103 Dave Anschuetz, Carroll, 1972
9.   2086 John Rooney, Illinois Wesleyan, 1983
10.   2057 Doug Moews, Illinois Wesleyan, 1987

Meador had 2119 yards in 7 games, for an average of 302.7 ypg.  2119 yards in CCIW games puts Meador's season at 7th all-time according to the CCIW archives.  However up until 1991 there were 8 conference games season, as Carroll College dropped out of the CCIW in 1992.  That means all but one QB in front of Meador had an extra game to accumulate their season stats.   Not too shabby for someone entering the season at #2 on the depth charts for Wheaton at QB.

Yup, Williams had the 5th best single season rushing season, and will likely do even better in 2011, if healthy.  Outstanding season without a doubt.

Single Season Rushing Records:
1.   1249 Curt Whipple, Carthage, 1970
2.   1177 Dante Washington, Carthage, 2003
3.   1165 Joe Thompson, Augustana, 1976
4.   1164 Joe Thompson, Augustana, 1974
5.   1152 Scott Williams, Elmhurst 2011
6.   1138 Pete Baranek, Carthage, 1985
7.   1124 Joe Thompson, Augustana, 1975
8.   1108 Curt Whipple, Carthage, 1971
9.   1104 Dante Washington, Carthage, 2004
10.   1099 Jim Jodat, Carthage, 1975

But what stands out, is WAY the two went about building their statistical resumes.

Meador accounted for all but 15 pass attempts for the Thunder in 2011, while Williams shared the load for EC, carrying a total of 224 times on the year out of a team rushing attempt total of 440, and Andrew Tubek (Scottie's primary back-up) scored 6 tds on 63 carries and 379 yards in 2011.

Your point on "the way" they cumulated their stats is where I think your argument fails. 

Since Meador didn't "share the load" means his stats don't carry as much weight or mean as much?  So you are stipulating that if Williams had the carries that Tubek took from him his yardage would have propelled him significantly beyond Meador?  Well first of all, Tubek only had 44 carries for 248 yards and 3 TD's in CCIW games.  Williams had 174 carries for 1152 yards and 8 TD's (not 224 carries).  Ok... IF you give Tubek's carries to Williams, an additional 44 carries at 6.6 ypc would have given Williams 1439 yards.  By far an all-time CCIW record.  But he didn't have those carries and you can't project like this...

RB's often share the load far more than QB's, but does that mean we are to somehow apply a different scale to RB's numbers?

If one were to use that same argument, then I'd say that Nick Kukuc of North Central is even more deserving of the OPOY award than Williams.   North Central had 3 RB's in the top 10 rushing stats for the CCIW season.  Talk about sharing the load.  Kukuc had 339 yards less than Williams, but on 47% less carries.  Kukuc averaged 8.9 yards a carry.  So if Kukuc didn't "share the load" and had the 89 carries that Jordan Tassio had and the 44 carries Mike Boettcher had, Kukuc would have had 1994 yards in CCIW games (284.8 ypg).  500 more yards than Williams!  Problem is... you can't apply that argument because it isn't reality.  Furthermore NCC won every game by at least 20 points.  How many carries did Kukuc lose due to sitting in the 3rd and 4th quarters of these blowouts? 

Meador accounted for 2,852 total yards passing on the season, while Scottie's QB (Furco) tallied 2,261 yards passing...the big difference here - Wheaton's rushing game was not a factor - with one back barely over 400 yards and a team total of 1,600 on the year (w/ Meador accounting 224 - not counting sacks).  EC's total rushing output was 2,455 on the year.  Bottom line - Scottie was just a part, a really good part, of the 22nd ranked offense in the country (2nd in CCIW), while Meador threw the ball more times (348) than Wheaton even attempted rushing plays, excluding sacks (310)! 

Not sure what your argument is here.  To me this makes Meador's season even more remarkable. Since Wheaton was so inept at running the ball, that means opposing defenses could key/focus on stopping Meador.  Being able to pass for 300 yards per game when teams knew Wheaton had to pass makes his success even more amazing.  65% completions while defensive game plans were geared to stop the pass.

For Williams to shine in a potent, BALANCED offense the way he did - that's special.  Meador was the 2011 version of 2009 Evan Jones, throwing the ball in a pass-happy offense to two all-conference receivers.

Huh?  Umm... Wasn't Jones the OPOY last year?  So Evan Jones was not a valid pick for OPOY in 2010, because Carthage used a "pass-happy" offense with great receivers?  How does the type of offense scheme factor into who is the OPOY?  So OPOY award winners should only come from teams that run a balance offensive attack?

(A balanced attack would "seem" to make it even more difficult for a defense to focus on stopping Williams only - IMO.)

Versus the top defenses in CCIW, Scottie went off - 194 vs. Wheaton, 127 vs. IWU, and 199  vs. Carthage. 

In a previous post after the Elmhurst/Wheaton game, I pointed out that 77 of the 194 yards against Wheaton came in the 4th quarter when Wheaton had their 2nd & 3rd team playing.  I listed out the play-by-play to support the claim.  So 117 yards against Wheaton's starting defense is "going off"?

As a counter point, let's look at Meador's stats against the top 3 defenses in the CCIW other than NCC (since in your argument you threw out NCC results).  Note Wheaton had the #3 defense, so we are looking at IWU, Carthage and Elmhurst.

IWU had the 2nd best defense in the conference.  Meador's 2nd worst game in CCIW play, but Williams only had 127 yards against IWU, which was 40 yards under his average and likely his 2nd worst game.
Meador: 26-47 for 284 yards, 2 TD's, 2 INT

Carthage was 2nd in pass defense at 160 ypg, fourth overall defense.
Meador: 22-31 for 330 yards, 3 TD's, 0 INT  (twice what Carthage allowed on average!)

Elmhurst had the 5th overall defense.
Meador: 32-46 for 389 yards, 4 TD's, 0 INT

So against the top "non-NCC" defenses, Meador completed 64% of his passes for an average of 336 yards per game, 9 TD's and 2 INT's.  Is that supposed diminish his OPOY credentials?

In a game Wheaton lead 42-16 in the 3rd quarter vs. Millikin, Meador padded his stats and threw the ball 45 times for 5 tds (including one in the 4th quarter).  Meador only handed the ball off 15 times in the 20 point win.  Scottie went for 238 on 30 carries and 2 tds (7.8 avg) in a game the Jays had to score in the last minute to beat the Big Blue.

I'm not even sure where to start with this one?  Two completely different games, with two completely different offensive game plans based on different strengths and with two completely different outcomes.  If anything I'd argue that it was Meador's efficiency and execution that eliminated the need for last minute heroics.  Williams was required to carry the ball 30 times in order to squeak out a win.  I'd view Meador's shredding Millikin to the tune of over 400 yards and 5 TD's, thus controlling the game as a more impressive feat.  NOTE:  Wheaton was losing 7-0 at the end of the 1st quarter and Wheaton punted 4 times in the 1st quarter, so a majority of Meador's damage came in the 2nd & 3rd quarters.

"Padded his stats?"  Really?  I fail to see how the play-by-play of the game supports the concept that Wheaton was padding Meador's stats instead of focusing on closing off a reasonably tough opponent. Your characterization of the game is a bit misleading and incorrect.  You imply Wheaton had a huge lead very early in the 3rd quarter and continued to pass to pad the stats.   34 of Meador's pass attempts occurred up to the point where Wheaton obtained their 42-16 lead with 6 ½ minutes left in the 3rd quarter – still lots of time remaining.  Both teams traded TD's during the 3rd quarter.  Millikin went on a 15 play drive to close the score to 42-23 with the entire 4th quarter remaining.  So on Wheaton's first drive in the quarter, they continued to execute their game plan and scored with 10 minutes left to take a 49-23 lead.  Wheaton only had one more drive for the game that started with 2:45 left.

Here is the breakdown Meador's stats per drive:

(1st quarter)
1st drive: 2 of 2 for 9 yards
2nd drive: 1 of 2 for 18 yards, 1 INT
3rd drive: 0 of 2 for 0 yards
4th drive: 1 of 3 for 5 yards  [At end of quarter Millikin led 7-0]

(2nd quarter)
5th drive: 4 of 4 for 29 yards
6th drive: 1 of 1 for 47 yards, TD
7th drive: 2 of 4 for 60 yards
8th drive: 5 of 6 for 61 yards, TD [28-10 at half]

(3rd quarter)
9th drive: 1 of 2 for 40 yards, TD
10th drive:  1 of 2 for 6 yards
11th drive: 6 of 7 for 100 yards, TD  [42-16 with 6:10 left in 3rd]

(4th quarter) Wheaton leading 42-23, a nice lead but not a done deal.
12th drive: 5 of 9 for 50 yards, TD  [49-29 with 2:45 remaining]
13th drive: 2 of 3 for 24 yards

Wheaton led 35-16 with 10 minutes left in the 3rd quarter when they started their 11th drive.  So leading by 19 points with nearly an entire half and reasonably decent Millikin offense, is Wheaton supposed to just hand the ball off 3 straight plays for the remainder of the game, when they couldn't run the ball effectively?  Does throwing the ball in this case represent "padding" Meadors stats or continuing to play hard and close off the game? 

Meador only handed the ball off 15 times because Wheaton COULDN'T run the ball effective.  Wheaton RB's had 15 carries for 105 yards. Doesn't seem too bad, but 29 yards came on a single run by a RB who had 3 carries on the entire season.  The starting RB had 6 carries for 20 yards.  Justin Swider had 4 carries for 43 yards for a 10.2 yard average... all in the 4th quarter with the game in hand. Wheaton barely averaged 3.0 ypc for the season in CCIW games.  Would a smart offensive coordinator run the ball 40 times a game if only average 3.0 ypc, especially when Millikin showed little indication they could stop the passing game?  So was Wheaton passing to pad Meador's stats or because that was the only way they could effectively move the ball in the first place?

I rest my case. Scottie is a special player on an explosive, balanced offense - no doubt about it, and will likely finish in the top 5 all-time in career rushing yardage in the CCIW.  Meador, while very talented, and certainly in the conversation for OPOY and all the while deserving of his recognition on the first team, is not on the same level as Williams, simply put.

"Simply put..."  I'm not sure where to start with this?  So comparing what a player has done in past years or over the entire collegiate career is supposed to be taken into account for an OPOY award?

No doubt Williams is a very special RB and will likely end up a top-5 CCIW rusher.  Meanwhile Meador has played behind 1st or 2nd Team All-CCIW QB's his first 3 seasons (Norris and Roberts).  Yes... Meador was 2nd on the depth chart coming into this season this year and was thrust into the starting role due to Roberts torn ACL.  Yet he put up the 7th best season statistically in CCIW history.  Because he didn't have a prolific career across multiple years he shouldn't be the OPOY? I believe the "OY" in OPOY is "of Year."

Both Williams and Meador had outstanding seasons and were clearly top candidates for the award, but I fail to see how Williams was more deserving than Meador based on your points.

[USee]

Mugsy gets my vote for CCIW SPOY, which of course stands for Sagerian Post of the Year.  Holy dissertation Batman!

[NCF]

Mugsy gets my vote for CCIW SPOY, which of course stands for Sagerian Post of the Year.  Holy dissertation Batman!

Thinking the exact same thing.

[Always.A.Titan]

Mugsy gets my vote for CCIW SPOY, which of course stands for Sagerian Post of the Year.  Holy dissertation Batman!

Well done, Mugsy. Also, well done USee. I support anyone who can reference Batman on the boards. 

[Always.A.Titan]

Also, this is a nice time to mention that the first 2 pictures you see on D3football are of Ryan Jenkins (though the picture is from 09) and the NCC defense. Defense wins championships?

[NCF]

Also, this is a nice time to mention that the first 2 pictures you see on D3football are of Ryan Jenkins (though the picture is from 09) and the NCC defense. Defense wins championships?

YES!!! And good luck to your "grandpa" on defense. Great article.

[devildog29]

Mugsy gets my vote for CCIW SPOY, which of course stands for Sagerian Post of the Year.  Holy dissertation Batman!

Well done, Mugsy. Also, well done USee. I support anyone who can reference Batman on the boards. 

"This board needs an enema!"  Doesn't really have anything to do with anything.  I just wanted to jump on the Batman bandwagon.  Ok, I'm off to dance with the devil in the pale moonlight.