FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[robertgoulet]

It's only Monday and the board hasn't seen this much bad mouthing since Bell Week. And we didn't even need to start a special thread for that. This is going to be a G R E A T week!!

And I thought Bell week was actually pretty tame.  This actually has some teeth.  I'm diggin it!

You don't frighten us, Naperville pig dogs. Go and boil your bottoms, you sons of a silly person. I blow my nose at you, so-called "Bell Winners," you and all your silly DuPage birds!

Ah don't wanna talk to you no more, you empty-headed animal food-trough wiper! I fart in your general direction! Your mother was a hamster and your father smelt of elderberries!

Now go away or I shall taunt you a second time.

Mugsy with an "MP" reference........NICE!   

Mugsy should've saved it for when Wheaton plays the Carleton Kannnn-nig-its.

At least he quoted the lines correctly. Alas, a couple of other regulars here blew their movie quotes. USee, it's, "Was it over when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?", not, ""Did we give up when the Germans bombed Pearl Harbor?" And, Goulet, the immortal words of Sgt. Hulka are, "Lighten up, Francis," not, "Settle down, Francis."

Hey, correcting movie quotes isn't much, but at least I'm doing my two bits for the conversation.

Crap.

[bashbrother]

I have always respected the level of Football IQ and the actual content on the CCIW Board.  Every member of the conference, that I have been around or watched games at, have all been class.   Any chance of the CCIIW?   

I am diggin that it is only Monday and this board is rockin.

Mugsy - That post took some time... thanks  +K

[CardinalAlum]

I have always respected the level of Football IQ and the actual content on the CCIW Board.  Every member of the conference, that I have been around or watched games at, have all been class.   Any chance of the CCIIW?   

That would be something!  You'd have to bring DePauw with so we get a little of that hatred going!   

[robertgoulet]

North Central vs. Wabash game capsule

Records:
   North Central:   10-1
   Wabash:           11-0

Statistical Category	North Central	Wabash	Comment
Offense Scoring	45.1	34.4
Defense Scoring	11.1	10.9
Off Pass Efficiency	145.3	144.7
Off Pass Completion %	53.0	53.6
Off Pass YPG	173.0	183.7
Off Pass TD's	20	20
Off INT's	4	5
Def Pass Efficiency	85.7	96.1
Def Pass Completion %	49.1	54.7
Def Pass YPG	156.4	181.9
Pass TD's Allowed	7	8
Def INT's	22	14
Kick Return Ave	19.4	19.8
Punt Return Ave	14.4	22.4
Punting	39.2	37.9	North Central 37 punts, Wabash 54
Off Rush YPG	288.6	178.3
Off Yards Per Carry	7.0	4.1
Off Rush TD's	36	21
Def Rush YPG	103.1	61.0
Def Yards Per Carry	2.9	2.1
Def Rush TD's Allowed	8	6
Total Offense	461.6	362.0
Total Defense	259.5	242.9
Sacks By	36	27
Sacks Allowed	13	24	North Central: 236 pass attempts, Wabash: 248
1st Downs	231	205
1st Downs Allowed	170	154
Penalty YPG	65.3	64.8
Red Zone Offense	78.9	77.0	North Central 37 TDs, 8 FG's : Wabash 29 TDs, 5 FG's
Red Zone Defense	63.6	65.0
Off 3rd Down Conv %	35.3	39.0
Opp 3rd Down Conv %	26.9	28.0
Field Goals	13 of 19	5 of 10
PAT's	61 of 65	45 of 50
Time of Pos	29:16	31:16

Other notable stats:
Wabash allowing 1 sack for every 10.3 pass attempts, NCC getting 1 sack for every 9.1 opponent pass attempts
NCC has 3 punt returns for TD's, Wabash has 4
NCC has 6 INT's returned for TD's, Wabash has 4
Wabash has blocked 3 punts

Notable Players:
Rushing           Team   Att    Net  Ave  TD  Long   Avg/G
---------------------------------------------------------------
Kukuc, Nick      NCC    122 1088  8.9   10    69      98.9
Tassio, Jordan   NCC   134   803  6.0     8    80      73.0
Boettcher, Mike NCC     63   486  7.7     6    48      44.2
Crackel, Brad    NCC     37   322  8.7     2    73      35.8
Kent, Ryan       NCC     30    258 8.6     4    75       51.6
Vann Hunt       WAB   146    686  4.7    4    57       62.4
Tyler Holmes    WAB    99    479  4.8    4    23       43.5
Chase Belton    WAB  128    454  3.5    9    47       41.3

QB Comparison:
Passing          Team     Effic   Cmp-Att-Int  Pct    Yards  TD  Long     Avg/G
------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Dicken, Tyler   NCC    144.3    79-154-2    51.3   1321  11     68      120.1
Crackel, Brad   NCC    131.8     41-73-2    56.2     469    6     37        52.1
Chase Belton   WAB    146.9 127-232-5    54.7   1880   20     61      170.9

Top Receivers:
Receiving            Team    No.  Yards  Avg TD  Long   Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------------------------------
Jonathan Horn     WAB     46     689  15.0   7     61     62.6
Wes Chamblee     WAB    44      658  15.0   8     55     59.8
James Kraus        WAB    12      241  20.1   2     54     21.9
Sean Hildebrand   WAB     9      167  18.6   0     38     15.2
Fiedorowicz, Kyle NCC     23      343  14.9   8    49      34.3
Antonacci, Joe     NCC     17      172  10.1   1     21     15.6
Hicks, Nick          NCC     13      189  14.5   0     28     21.0
Haan, Alex          NCC     11      185  16.8   5     86     18.5
Kabba, Bai          NCC     10      319  31.9   3     68     45.6
Slezak, Nick        NCC     10      111  11.1   0     19     12.3
Rezac, Ryne        NCC      9       109  12.1   0    18        9.9
Tassio, Jordan     NCC      9       100  11.1   0    21        9.1
Stolzenburg, Jeff NCC      8       190  23.8   1    40      19.0

Mugs, thanks as always for the great breakdown.

I mentioned this on the enemy's board, but I wonder if this is the week we see Fiedorowicz play a big role (a-la his games against Wheaton prior to this year). NCC has been really run heavy the last few weeks (and he had been out with an injury), it stands to reason that he may be the forgotten man in the Wabash film room this week, what with them focusing so much time and attention on stopping the NCC rushing attack.

Kyle's done a good job blocking, but I'm sure he'd really help his NFL chances by showing up and dominating a game or two in these playoffs.

[CardinalAlum]

RG,

I really doubt the guy leading the team in number of catches and TD's will be forgotten by the LG's.  I really hope come Saturday that we are not wondering which receiver is going to be the star of the game for us as that won't be a good sign for us!  We have to continue to move the ball on the ground. 

[robertgoulet]

RG,

I really doubt the guy leading the team in number of catches and TD's will be forgotten by the LG's.  I really hope come Saturday that we are not wondering which receiver is going to be the star of the game for us as that won't be a good sign for us!  We have to continue to move the ball on the ground.

Understood, but 23 catches really doesn't scream "We really have to shut this guy down or he will kill us".

I hope the same, I'd much prefer us running it down their throats like we did in quarters 2-4  of the 1st rd game. Obviously Wabash's D is a completely different animal, though.

[bashbrother]

So a couple of months ago I was consulting for a client and looking at a possible sponsorship opportunity with the NHL's Florida Panthers down here in S. Florida.   The representative I dealt with in the Panther's Business Office was Brandon Lott, former NCC player and alum.

Going to try and get him to come up and watch the game with some Bash folk at a sports bar near my house that lets me hook my laptop up to a 60" big screen.....  Anyone on here know Brandon?

[CardinalAlum]

So a couple of months ago I was consulting for a client and looking at a possible sponsorship opportunity with the NHL's Florida Panthers down here in S. Florida.   The representative I dealt with in the Panther's Business Office was Brandon Lott, former NCC player and alum.

Going to try and get him to come up and watch the game with some Bash folk at a sports bar near my house that lets me hook my laptop up to a 60" big screen.....  Anyone on here know Brandon?

How old is he?  Estimate?

[ncc_fan]

I have always respected the level of Football IQ and the actual content on the CCIW Board.  Every member of the conference, that I have been around or watched games at, have all been class.   Any chance of the CCIIW?   

That would be something!  You'd have to bring DePauw with so we get a little of that hatred going!   

I assume your question was posed with tongue firmly planted in cheek, but I'd be actually be OK with the C²I²W.  It would certainly make travel easier for the LGs & Tigers.  Didn't Wabash & DePauw inquire about CCIW membership back in the late '90s when they were looking for a new conference home?  I've always wondered why it didn't happen then.   

[bashbrother]

So a couple of months ago I was consulting for a client and looking at a possible sponsorship opportunity with the NHL's Florida Panthers down here in S. Florida.   The representative I dealt with in the Panther's Business Office was Brandon Lott, former NCC player and alum.

Going to try and get him to come up and watch the game with some Bash folk at a sports bar near my house that lets me hook my laptop up to a 60" big screen.....  Anyone on here know Brandon?

How old is he?  Estimate?

2006, 2007  I believe.....

[USee]

I think USee said it best on Saturday (11/19) on the NCAC Boards when he said, "The biggest challenge is figuring out how to score points against them (NCC)."  On my count, NCC has seen five better offenses than they will see on the field this coming Saturday.

(DIII Rankings)     SOS        Rushing       Passing          Total Offense     Points Scored
Redlands              #30        #41            #87               #37                  35  (SCIAC)
MU                      #2          #57           #107             #61                  14  (CCIW)
Elmhurst               #147      #28            #57              #22                  10  (CCIW)
Wheaton              #32        #160           #18              #40                  7  (CCIW)
Dubuque               #189      #77             #4               #2                    13 (IIAC)
Wabash                #114      #83            #129            #117                 TBD (NCAC)

The Bash Defense and Special Teams have combined for 11 TDs this season. I don't think I can emphasize enough how much of an impact those components of the team have had on our offensive numbers. It's been staggering the extent that the games have been dictated and won without major contribution from the offense. They haven't needed to do much. Tons of short field opportunities.

Against Depauw, our offense didn't touch the ball for three consecutive series. At the end of the game, we'd thrown for like 12 yards. No-one I know was bummed about that. It didn't mean our offense was terrible. It meant everything else was so good.

I believe that points from turnovers may be more difficult to come by this coming Saturday.

(DIII Rankings)     SOS        Turnover Margin    Fumbles Lost   INTs Thrown
NCC                     #28        #5 (+1.7)             7                    4
Wabash                #114      #11 (+1.3)           10                   5

I should note that NCC's opponents had an average net turnover margin of 0.0 while Wabash's had an average net turnover margin 0f -.67.  So, the teams that Wabash played were prone to turnovers while the teams that NCC played were not.

What about points from short field position? What about the one or two that-never-happened-to-us-before plays that'll happen on Saturday? What about Chamblee or a blocked punt? What about the Wabash offense actually being asked to win a game and for only the second time all season?

Look, I pour over stats as much as the next guy. They're a lot of fun and, if you find the right collection of them, they offer a pretty good picture of how two teams stack up. Our offensive numbers, I'm just telling you, are not indicative of the offense. They're just not. We play a ****ty schedule and our defense has dominated.  It took us 5 games to figure out what to do with that from an offensive stand-point and our identity, today, is run the zone option w our athletic QB and ask him to throw deep a couple of times a game. That's it. Low risk offense. They won't be able to do that Saturday and I think they'll be just fine. They've got offensive players that can beat good teams, I promise.

"Your Honor, I strenuously object!!"

[GRIZ_BACKER]

I'm trying to understand the similarities (or lack thereof) between this Saturday's Wabash/NCC matchup with the Wabash at Wisconsin Whitewater in 2007.  Off the top of my head...

- we have a different coach - Erik Raeburn (not Chris Creighton - his last game at Bash)
- we are 11-0 (we lost to DePauw that year, we beat them 45-7 this year)
- we are at Hollett Little Giant Stadium as the #2 seed in the North region
- MLB CJ Gum (6'0 230) is NOT Adi Pynenberg - completely different styles, different players
- the Bash O is balanced this year (credit ER), we relied on the pass in 2007 which didn't help with the fact we were playing in a snow/ice blizard in 6" of snow by kickoff

GrizzBacker - I find it entertaining that you are on the CCIW board blasting Wabash for our SOS, kudos for scheduling your opener but WHO THE HELL HAVE YOU PLAYED (because you got blasted against the opener!) in your power conference?  Talk about gross.  Mighty Manchester had you on the ropes.     If you want, let's compare NCAC playoff records with HCAC playoff records.

I didn't "blast" anyone.  What I am saying is Wabash's schedule and conference is not materially better than Franklin's. I agree HCAC isn't anywhere close to CCIW but NCAC is not in the same league either.  All teams have a tough game or two.  Baldwin Wallace was a dropped pass away from upsetting UMU, UWW was on the ropes with Oshkosh.... etc.  Actually UWW was the second game of the year.  FC opened against a 1-AA opponent.  SOS is just a number that feeds on itself.  We shall see on Saturday.  I could be wrong.

[USee]

Mugsy,

Great stats. I think it's safe to say the Wabash defense has a materially tougher task in limiting NCC than the Cardinals defense has in limiting Wabash. BashDad, your assumption that Wabash has a special teams advantage is just that. I don't see it in the stats. In fact, if you look at the offensive numbers as a proxy for talent, Wabash has 4 players with 9 or more receptions and NCC has 9 players with 9 or more. That is a great example of the strength of this NCC team. Depth and more depth. It will manifest itself on special teams and in the 4th quarter. When the 4 DPOY candidates have only played 60% of the snaps late in the game that's a big advantage. How many snaps will CJ Gum sit?

AndOne, I had a longer time horizon. Last year (and the year before) I had nightmares in my "household" of Garza and Hayes. It wasn't until this year that I woke up with cold sweats afraid of the Bulandr's.

[bashbrother]

How many snaps will CJ Gum sit?

ZERO

[GRIZ_BACKER]

Mugsy,

Great stats. I think it's safe to say the Wabash defense has a materially tougher task in limiting NCC than the Cardinals defense has in limiting Wabash. BashDad, your assumption that Wabash has a special teams advantage is just that. I don't see it in the stats. In fact, if you look at the offensive numbers as a proxy for talent, Wabash has 4 players with 9 or more receptions and NCC has 9 players with 9 or more. That is a great example of the strength of this NCC team. Depth and more depth. It will manifest itself on special teams and in the 4th quarter. When the 4 DPOY candidates have only played 60% of the snaps late in the game that's a big advantage. How many snaps will CJ Gum sit?

AndOne, I had a longer time horizon. Last year (and the year before) I had nightmares in my "household" of Garza and Hayes. It wasn't until this year that I woke up with cold sweats afraid of the Bulandr's.

Maybe Bashdad is under the sway of scarlet and grey glasses?