FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

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Naperville Sun article on NCC football.
The Cardinals are 59-12 over the past six seasons, including 39-3 in CCIW play.

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14322150-419/football-north-central-named-cciw-favorite.html

That is quite an accomplishment, but there is still more to achieve:).

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With Wheaton opening in less than three weeks, is there going to be a pick-ems this season?

[jayhawkdaddy]

I'm getting ready to get things started! If someone would like to do the pick'ems let me know!

[jayhawkdaddy]

Week 1 picks are up on the Pick'em site! Can't believe we are already doing this! I have them up early because school starts up on Wednesday 8/15 and didn't know when I would get the chance before the season starts! Good Luck everyone1

[NCF]

Week 1 picks are up on the Pick'em site! Can't believe we are already doing this! I have them up early because school starts up on Wednesday 8/15 and didn't know when I would get the chance before the season starts! Good Luck everyone1

what's the deadline for picks to be in?

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just checked the site-should have done that first:)

[markerickson]

Ninety freshmen at Carthage has to be a record enrollment for any CCIW school!  Is overall enrollment at Carthage hurting and thus a push to get money tuition money by recruiting dozens of players who will never see varsity action?

I had hoped Oshayne Brown from Niles North HS (Skokie IL) would enroll at North Park.  Mr. Brown was the conference's 2011 offensive POY.  He led the conference in rushing (and finished first in the 100m sprint this spring).  He is very slippery and regularly created long runs despite playing on an inferior team.  Given North Park's penchant for running the ball, I envisioned Mr. Brown starting as a freshman and having an immediate impact for the Vikings.  However, Mr. Brown ended up at North Central.  Having said this, what talent does NCC return at tailback?

Isn't NCC a pass-happy offense?  Perhaps Mr. Brown will convert to WR.  If so, what is NCC's returning talent pool at that position?   

[NCF]

Ninety freshmen at Carthage has to be a record enrollment for any CCIW school!  Is overall enrollment at Carthage hurting and thus a push to get money tuition money by recruiting dozens of players who will never see varsity action?

I had hoped Oshayne Brown from Niles North HS (Skokie IL) would enroll at North Park.  Mr. Brown was the conference's 2011 offensive POY.  He led the conference in rushing (and finished first in the 100m sprint this spring).  He is very slipperly and regularly created long runs despite playing on an inferior team.  Given North Park's penchant for running the ball, I envisioned Mr. Brown starting as a freshman and having an immediate impact for the Vikings.  However, Mr. Brown ended up at North Central.  Having said this, what talent does NCC return at tailback?

Isn't NCC a pass-happy offense?  Perhaps Mr. Brown will convert to WR.  If so, what is NCC's returning talent pool at that position?

Manny Juarez returns after sitting out last year due to an injury. Also Bai Kabba is and Jeff Stolzenberg are back as well. The backfield returns everyone, but he could see action there. Not so sure on the rest of the receivers. Have to agree with you on bringing in so many freshmen. They tend to get discouraged and quit or transfer.

[RFMichigan]

Ninety freshmen at Carthage has to be a record enrollment for any CCIW school!  Is overall enrollment at Carthage hurting and thus a push to get money tuition money by recruiting dozens of players who will never see varsity action?   

This seems to be a recurring theme of this early part of the season from what I've noticed on boards such as this and individual team sites; huge numbers of freshmen for the beginning of fall camp.

We know that D3 schools - many of the anyway - are after the big numbers for the reason that you stated above; the tuition dollars they bring in.

As to the part about dozens of players who will never see varsity action - well, you know that this will be the case. I know that this will be the case. And the coaches know that this will be the case. But most of these incoming freshmen don't see themselves in this case.

The majority of these freshmen started and possibly starred for their respective high schools. They only know one thing - they played and are not used to sitting the bench. They can only picture themselves as starting in a year or so. You can tell them until you're blue in the face and show them all the numbers and statistics that are out there, but adolescent development being what it is (/shudders at the familiar/uncomfortable memories), they don't see themselves as being part of the statistic that states that there will be vastly more of this year's incoming freshmen that will not be playing football by the time their junior year rolls around than those that will.

[NCF]

Ninety freshmen at Carthage has to be a record enrollment for any CCIW school!  Is overall enrollment at Carthage hurting and thus a push to get money tuition money by recruiting dozens of players who will never see varsity action?   

This seems to be a recurring theme of this early part of the season from what I've noticed on boards such as this and individual team sites; huge numbers of freshmen for the beginning of fall camp.

We know that D3 schools - many of the anyway - are after the big numbers for the reason that you stated above; the tuition dollars they bring in.

As to the part about dozens of players who will never see varsity action - well, you know that this will be the case. I know that this will be the case. And the coaches know that this will be the case. But most of these incoming freshmen don't see themselves in this case.

The majority of these freshmen started and possibly starred for their respective high schools. They only know one thing - they played and are not used to sitting the bench. They can only picture themselves as starting in a year or so. You can tell them until you're blue in the face and show them all the numbers and statistics that are out there, but adolescent development being what it is (/shudders at the familiar/uncomfortable memories), they don't see themselves as being part of the statistic that states that there will be vastly more of this year's incoming freshmen that will not be playing football by the time their junior year rolls around than those that will.

Very well said!

[robertgoulet]

Ninety freshmen at Carthage has to be a record enrollment for any CCIW school!  Is overall enrollment at Carthage hurting and thus a push to get money tuition money by recruiting dozens of players who will never see varsity action?

I had hoped Oshayne Brown from Niles North HS (Skokie IL) would enroll at North Park.  Mr. Brown was the conference's 2011 offensive POY.  He led the conference in rushing (and finished first in the 100m sprint this spring).  He is very slippery and regularly created long runs despite playing on an inferior team.  Given North Park's penchant for running the ball, I envisioned Mr. Brown starting as a freshman and having an immediate impact for the Vikings.  However, Mr. Brown ended up at North Central.  Having said this, what talent does NCC return at tailback?

Isn't NCC a pass-happy offense?  Perhaps Mr. Brown will convert to WR.  If so, what is NCC's returning talent pool at that position?   

Brown would have competition at either position. NCC returns Tassio, Kukuc, and Kent at RB, as well as Juarez and Stolzenburg at WR. It would seem WR would offer the most immediate chance at playing time, based on the returning roster. Though he also will have competition from incoming freshman. I actually highlighted Brown in my 7/2 post about potential impact players in NCC's incoming class (copied and pasted below):

Alrighty, I did a little research on the NCC recruiting class. I figured reposting the full list would be overkill, so I have picked out some guys who I think are the "jewels" of the class:

Josh Beveridge    DL    Crystal Lake South (Fox Valley First-Team All-Area Northwest Herald, Fox Valley First-Team All-Area Daily Herald, All-Fox Valley Conference Valley Division Team)
Oshayne Brown    RB    Niles North (Offensive POY for the Central Suburban League North Division, CSL North All-Conference, Chicago Sun-Times All-Area Special Mention)
Jason Callahan    WR    Glenbard East/Western Illinois Univ 2x DuPage Valley All-Conference, 2008 Daily Herald All-Area)
Noel Gaspari    QB    Batavia (Upstate Eight 1st Team All-Conference, Beacon-News All-Area, Class 6A IHSFCA All-State, Kane County Republican All Area)
Austin Howarth    QB    Plainfield South (ESPNHS Honorable Mention All-State, 1st-Team Soutwest Prairie Conference)
Sam Quintanilla    TE/OL    Rockton Hononegah/UTEP/Coll. of DuPage (big boy, 6'7" 285. RR-Star All-Area)
Matthew Randolph    RB    Naperville Central (Naperville Sun POY, Unanimous 1st Team All DuPage Valley Conference)
Mack Tracey    WR/P    Wheaton Warrenville South/Northern Illinois Univ. (Chicago Tribune 2nd Team All-State as Punter, Tribune 1st Team All DuPage Valley Conference as Offensive All-Purpose Player, Daily Herald Honorable Mention All DVC as QB/WR)

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Had the pleasure of meeting Beveridges  parents this past week-end, very nice people.

[AndOne]

Ninety freshmen at Carthage has to be a record enrollment for any CCIW school!  Is overall enrollment at Carthage hurting and thus a push to get money tuition money by recruiting dozens of players who will never see varsity action?

I had hoped Oshayne Brown from Niles North HS (Skokie IL) would enroll at North Park.  Mr. Brown was the conference's 2011 offensive POY.  He led the conference in rushing (and finished first in the 100m sprint this spring).  He is very slipperly and regularly created long runs despite playing on an inferior team.  Given North Park's penchant for running the ball, I envisioned Mr. Brown starting as a freshman and having an immediate impact for the Vikings.  However, Mr. Brown ended up at North Central.  Having said this, what talent does NCC return at tailback?

Isn't NCC a pass-happy offense?  Perhaps Mr. Brown will convert to WR.  If so, what is NCC's returning talent pool at that position?

Manny Juarez returns after sitting out last year due to an injury. Also Bai Kabba is and Jeff Stolzenberg are back as well. The backfield returns everyone, but he could see action there. Not so sure on the rest of the receivers. Have to agree with you on bringing in so many freshmen. They tend to get discouraged and quit or transfer.

Not sure about Kabba returning this season. He is not listed on the roster.

[NCF]

Ninety freshmen at Carthage has to be a record enrollment for any CCIW school!  Is overall enrollment at Carthage hurting and thus a push to get money tuition money by recruiting dozens of players who will never see varsity action?

I had hoped Oshayne Brown from Niles North HS (Skokie IL) would enroll at North Park.  Mr. Brown was the conference's 2011 offensive POY.  He led the conference in rushing (and finished first in the 100m sprint this spring).  He is very slipperly and regularly created long runs despite playing on an inferior team.  Given North Park's penchant for running the ball, I envisioned Mr. Brown starting as a freshman and having an immediate impact for the Vikings.  However, Mr. Brown ended up at North Central.  Having said this, what talent does NCC return at tailback?

Isn't NCC a pass-happy offense?  Perhaps Mr. Brown will convert to WR.  If so, what is NCC's returning talent pool at that position?

Manny Juarez returns after sitting out last year due to an injury. Also Bai Kabba is and Jeff Stolzenberg are back as well. The backfield returns everyone, but he could see action there. Not so sure on the rest of the receivers. Have to agree with you on bringing in so many freshmen. They tend to get discouraged and quit or transfer.

Not sure about Kabba returning this season. He is not listed on the roster.

I heard his parents didn't want him playing but is the roster updated yet?

[markerickson]

Thanks all y'all for your feedback!  I still marvel at NCC's transformation, i.e., three conference losses in six years!  Wow.