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Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 31, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Naperville Sun articles on the North Central football offense, and their summer trip to Spain:

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14833790-419/college-football-north-central-expects-more-balance-on-offense.html

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14790240-419/college-football-ncc-trip-to-spain-builds-team-unity.html

*Its interesting to note, in the article about the anticipated offensive production, that the primary runners for the Cardinals felt least year's offensive attack often became to one-dimensional in favor of the run. It might be my investigator/analyst background, but I sense the upperclassmen are rather glad to have Stanek returning at the QB position after a year's absence, as opposed to last year's freshman starter who didn't match Stanek's previous passing efficiency mark, which led the conference in 2010.

Stanek threw for 1300 yards, 11 TDs, and 7 INTS. You guys are funny.
He split time with Brad Crackel.  Those numbers are from only about half of the snaps. 
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Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 31, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Naperville Sun articles on the North Central football offense, and their summer trip to Spain:

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14833790-419/college-football-north-central-expects-more-balance-on-offense.html

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14790240-419/college-football-ncc-trip-to-spain-builds-team-unity.html

*Its interesting to note, in the article about the anticipated offensive production, that the primary runners for the Cardinals felt least year's offensive attack often became to one-dimensional in favor of the run. It might be my investigator/analyst background, but I sense the upperclassmen are rather glad to have Stanek returning at the QB position after a year's absence, as opposed to last year's freshman starter who didn't match Stanek's previous passing efficiency mark, which led the conference in 2010.

Stanek threw for 1300 yards, 11 TDs, and 7 INTS. You guys are funny.

You selectively left out two more important facts -(1) Stanek split time with Crackel that year and (2) Stanek had a completion % of ~64%.

Last year, NCC's starting QB completed only 50% of his passes. No question North Central will have a better passing game this year.

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Quote from: izzy stradlin on August 31, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 31, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Naperville Sun articles on the North Central football offense, and their summer trip to Spain:

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14833790-419/college-football-north-central-expects-more-balance-on-offense.html

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14790240-419/college-football-ncc-trip-to-spain-builds-team-unity.html

*Its interesting to note, in the article about the anticipated offensive production, that the primary runners for the Cardinals felt least year's offensive attack often became to one-dimensional in favor of the run. It might be my investigator/analyst background, but I sense the upperclassmen are rather glad to have Stanek returning at the QB position after a year's absence, as opposed to last year's freshman starter who didn't match Stanek's previous passing efficiency mark, which led the conference in 2010.

Stanek threw for 1300 yards, 11 TDs, and 7 INTS. You guys are funny.

You selectively left out two more important facts -(1) Stanek split time with Crackel that year and (2) Stanek had a completion % of ~64%.

Last year, NCC's starting QB completed only 50% of his passes. No question North Central will have a better passing game this year.
Very!! It will help keep defenses honest and take the pressure off Kukoc and Tassio as well. Let the season begin allready!!!! :)
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Quote from: izzy stradlin on August 31, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 31, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Naperville Sun articles on the North Central football offense, and their summer trip to Spain:

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14833790-419/college-football-north-central-expects-more-balance-on-offense.html

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14790240-419/college-football-ncc-trip-to-spain-builds-team-unity.html

*Its interesting to note, in the article about the anticipated offensive production, that the primary runners for the Cardinals felt least year's offensive attack often became to one-dimensional in favor of the run. It might be my investigator/analyst background, but I sense the upperclassmen are rather glad to have Stanek returning at the QB position after a year's absence, as opposed to last year's freshman starter who didn't match Stanek's previous passing efficiency mark, which led the conference in 2010.

Stanek threw for 1300 yards, 11 TDs, and 7 INTS. You guys are funny.

You selectively left out two more important facts -(1) Stanek split time with Crackel that year and (2) Stanek had a completion % of ~64%.

Last year, NCC's starting QB completed only 50% of his passes. No question North Central will have a better passing game this year.

Last year, NCC's *freshman* quarterback completed only 50% of his passes. He also threw 5 less picks in 40 more attempts than your boy Stanek. He's also 6'3 and has a canon for an arm. I'm not trying to argue 1.) That Stanek sucks or 2.) That NCC sucks, I'm just confused at how far you guys are going to shrug off Dicken's loss. Dicken wasn't perfect last year, but he wouldn't, like, come into this season as the exact same quarterback. He was a freshman. A thousand times over: he was a freshman. Saying that you're oh-so glad that Stanek is back to avoid experiencing the mistakes of last year is silly. Dicken would be improved--duh--and Stanek, as far as I can tell, hasn't done all that much to instill such bald confidence in a passing game that will resemble 2008 or 2009. Completion percentage means a little less if you're throwing a pick every 10 passes, doesn't it? Yes. Yes, it does. 

NCF

Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: izzy stradlin on August 31, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 31, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Naperville Sun articles on the North Central football offense, and their summer trip to Spain:

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14833790-419/college-football-north-central-expects-more-balance-on-offense.html

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14790240-419/college-football-ncc-trip-to-spain-builds-team-unity.html

*Its interesting to note, in the article about the anticipated offensive production, that the primary runners for the Cardinals felt least year's offensive attack often became to one-dimensional in favor of the run. It might be my investigator/analyst background, but I sense the upperclassmen are rather glad to have Stanek returning at the QB position after a year's absence, as opposed to last year's freshman starter who didn't match Stanek's previous passing efficiency mark, which led the conference in 2010.

Stanek threw for 1300 yards, 11 TDs, and 7 INTS. You guys are funny.

You selectively left out two more important facts -(1) Stanek split time with Crackel that year and (2) Stanek had a completion % of ~64%.

Last year, NCC's starting QB completed only 50% of his passes. No question North Central will have a better passing game this year.

Last year, NCC's *freshman* quarterback completed only 50% of his passes. He also threw 5 less picks in 40 more attempts than your boy Stanek. He's also 6'3 and has a canon for an arm. I'm not trying to argue 1.) That Stanek sucks or 2.) That NCC sucks, I'm just confused at how far you guys are going to shrug off Dicken's loss. Dicken wasn't perfect last year, but he wouldn't, like, come into this season as the exact same quarterback. He was a freshman. A thousand times over: he was a freshman. Saying that you're oh-so glad that Stanek is back to avoid experiencing the mistakes of last year is silly. Dicken would be improved--duh--and Stanek, as far as I can tell, hasn't done all that much to instill such bald confidence in a passing game that will resemble 2008 or 2009. Completion percentage means a little less if you're throwing a pick every 10 passes, doesn't it? Yes. Yes, it does.
When are we going to stop beating the dead horse?  Why can't NC fans and players appreciate Stanek's return? Dicken isn't available. Dicken didn't take care of business off the field and Stanek WILL be the man. Why do you keep bashing those who watched Stanek play for two years? I used to be a skeptic, but had to change my mind after seeing him in action. Stanek will be just fine and some other freshman is going to get a great opportunity to back him up and develop. Dicken obviously didn't care enough to make sure he would have a chance to BE on the field in 2012. I, for one, can't wait to see him play again. Let's go CARDS!
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CCIW MEN'S OUTDOOR TRACK CHAMPIONS: 35
NATIONAL CHAMPIONS: INDOOR TRACK-'89,'10,'11,'12/OUTDOOR TRACK: '89,'94,'98,'00,'10,'11
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BashDad

I'm not bashing anyone. You guys are incredibly defensive, to the point of being unflatteringly confident in a ghost-player, someone who never did the things you're now expecting him to do. Whatever. Go with God. Etc.

BashDad

And as far as beating a dead horse goes, you guys never killed the thing to begin with. From the minute news broke about Dicken's loss it was all "THANK GOD STANEK IS BACK WE'RE BETTER NOW HOORAY HOORAY."

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Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 01:37:19 PM
Quote from: izzy stradlin on August 31, 2012, 01:03:04 PM
Quote from: BashDad on August 31, 2012, 12:45:21 PM
Quote from: AndOne on August 31, 2012, 12:29:58 PM
Naperville Sun articles on the North Central football offense, and their summer trip to Spain:

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14833790-419/college-football-north-central-expects-more-balance-on-offense.html

http://napervillesun.suntimes.com/sports/14790240-419/college-football-ncc-trip-to-spain-builds-team-unity.html

*Its interesting to note, in the article about the anticipated offensive production, that the primary runners for the Cardinals felt least year's offensive attack often became to one-dimensional in favor of the run. It might be my investigator/analyst background, but I sense the upperclassmen are rather glad to have Stanek returning at the QB position after a year's absence, as opposed to last year's freshman starter who didn't match Stanek's previous passing efficiency mark, which led the conference in 2010.

Stanek threw for 1300 yards, 11 TDs, and 7 INTS. You guys are funny.

You selectively left out two more important facts -(1) Stanek split time with Crackel that year and (2) Stanek had a completion % of ~64%.

Last year, NCC's starting QB completed only 50% of his passes. No question North Central will have a better passing game this year.

Last year, NCC's *freshman* quarterback completed only 50% of his passes. He also threw 5 less picks in 40 more attempts than your boy Stanek. He's also 6'3 and has a canon for an arm. I'm not trying to argue 1.) That Stanek sucks or 2.) That NCC sucks, I'm just confused at how far you guys are going to shrug off Dicken's loss. Dicken wasn't perfect last year, but he wouldn't, like, come into this season as the exact same quarterback. He was a freshman. A thousand times over: he was a freshman. Saying that you're oh-so glad that Stanek is back to avoid experiencing the mistakes of last year is silly. Dicken would be improved--duh--and Stanek, as far as I can tell, hasn't done all that much to instill such bald confidence in a passing game that will resemble 2008 or 2009. Completion percentage means a little less if you're throwing a pick every 10 passes, doesn't it? Yes. Yes, it does.

BashDad,

I'm with you on this one. I'm not getting the part about us being better at QB yet.  I was and am  a big fan of Dicken.  He made some great plays for a true freshman and I was really looking forward to seeing him take a big step up.  Stanek will have to shake the rust off and produce before I'm jumping on that bandwagon!   Of course, I'm hoping he will, but anytime you lose a kid like Dicken, you are NOT better.   He's a kid you stole from the Green Weenies backyard that should have helped recruiting in the twin cities!   Looking forward to a great game and hoping like heck Stanek steps up!
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Quote from: Langhorst_Ghost on August 31, 2012, 02:39:58 PM
Really good article on Scottie Williams...just an incredible kid.

http://public.elmhurst.edu/explore/student_life/167563365.html

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That IS a good article.  Kudos to him for being such an upstanding guy as well as a stellar back.  I love how you hear so many stories like this come out of D3 athletics.
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Whoever played QB for NCC in 2010 was going to have a lot of pressure on him. NCC saw Kniss lead the team for 4 years and then Fanthorpe for 3. The coach, players, alumni, and fans were used to excellence at the QB position. Stanek had a very good high school career and came to NCC with high expectations. His problem was that he had a tendency to make stupid mistakes late in games - missed snaps, fumbles, and untimely interceptions. Many people knew of the issues that led to Stanek not playing last season. He wasn't going to win a popularity contest.

The reason cited for Dicken replacing Crackel was that Crackel had been inaccurate as a passer. Especially when Dickens first became the QB, NCC relied on the running game. Besides Tassio and Kukoc, Thompson missed the entire season and Kent missed half the season. Dickens threw most of his passes in obvious passing situations. They also tried to take advantage of his strong arm, and threw a lot of low percentage passes. It would have been nice to see how he would have played in his second year. But he's not there.

Now, Stanek could have left NCC. The coaches and players have said a lot of good things about him. It seems that he has matured as a person, we'll see if he has improved as a football player. I find it interesting that he didn't play well in the last quarter of his last game against UWW. Two of his first three games will be against WIAC teams. That could be a test of his emotions and poise.

In the CCIW pre-season coaches chat, Coach Thorne mentioned Mack Carey as a threat to run the wildcat. We'll see how much wildcat they show in the first three games.

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Two Carthage previews from the Kenosha Paper:

Article 1

Carthage football team hoping for surprise package
 



Carthage football coach Tim Rucks urges his team on during a preseason workout Aug. 18. Picked to finished sixth in the College Conference of Illinois and WIscosnin preseason poll, the Red Men are hoping to spring some surprises this season.
8/29 6:06 p.m.
Updated 8/29 11:57 p.m.
BY ANDREW HORSCHAK
ahorschak@kenoshanews.com



KENOSHA — Picked to finish sixth in the CCIW preseason coaches poll, the Carthage football team is on a mission to surprise after a mediocre 2011 campaign.

The key word for the Redmen in 2012 is "return."

[EDITED: To preserve copyright. Please do not copy and paste an entire story onto the site./pc]

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Interesting Carthage's defense is being talked about.  When I think of Carthage I have always thought of great offense with Burris, Merchut,  Washington typically a great RB and 1-2 WR's with usually a pretty stable QB.
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