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Thanks Coo Coo! I think the adjustments on the defensive side of the ball were key. They were able to get some stops in that second half. Also the couple 4th down conversions including the one touchdown on the 99 yard drive was huge. Great game Coo Coo, it would be fun to do it again next year.
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cludad

congrats  to ncc, that was a good old fashion butt kicking. that d effort was the best ive seen go against CLU in my 4 years.That is a very good team.Hopefully CLU can learn from this like they have in playing linfield.Ncc d hits hard, plays hard and really didnt make any glaring mistakes. The qb threw some really good deep balls,and that running back is very good.Again congrats to you guys...p.s. i knew the game was over on the second play from scrimmage ;)

USee

Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 14, 2012, 10:21:18 PM
Quote from: USee on November 14, 2012, 09:01:17 PM
Quote from: Gregory Sager on November 14, 2012, 07:30:32 PM
Quote from: USee on November 14, 2012, 12:13:06 AMAnd I take exception at your interpretation of my post GS.  I know progress when I see it. Better students, more retention, more seniors than I don't know when and much more discipline on the field.  Lack of talent, yes, bad coaching no.  I agree with your conclusion, NPU is doomed if they are now firing coaches.  I can't imagine who wants that job.  I am sure someone will take it but that's disappointing to see them fire Pethtel.

I don't understand why you take exception, USee. You said in your initial post that NPU had made "huge strides." Huge strides in what way? Since this is a football forum, after all, it's entirely reasonable to think that you were talking about what happened on the field rather than off the field. And, as I said in my reply to you, if you were talking about off-the-field stuff when you said "huge strides", then I don't have a problem with that. In fact, as should be apparent by now, I agree with you.

Onfield success starts with off filed success. They are inextricably linked.  Winning always comes last.  NPU made huge strides under Scott Pethtel.  The program is in trouble now.  If a candidate thinks the university will fire you for doing things the right way, no one worth a hoot will go near the place.

Again, though, I have to point out that the numbers were down at NPU this year in terms of incoming freshmen. That counts for a lot, since football's supposed to bring male bodies onto the campus and NPU is a tuition-driven school.

It stinks that this has to be a part of the calculation of what constitutes off-field success, but it is. No getting around it.

GS,

If the football coach was indeed fired because he didn't recruit enough numbers, that was a problem they have known about for at least 3 months. That means they knee they were going to release Pethtel, which makes sense since he was gone shortly after the final whistle at Wheaton. It also means they have had plenty of time to come up with a plan so we will see how quickly that unfolds for the administration. I would think getting a new coach in there quickly has to be a priority. Tick tock

Gregory Sager

Agreed. I don't know for a rock-solid fact that that's the primary reason why he was let go -- nobody ever consults me on such matters ;) -- but, given the smallish freshman class, the overall hit that NPU took in terms of freshman enrollment this school year, and the fact that he was let go less than 48 hours after the final game of the season, all of the evidence points to that.

The won-lost record certainly doesn't help, but I think that the administration is well aware of the difficulty of winning football games at North Park. They can read the NPU football record book as well as anybody.

It'll be very interesting to see how long it takes NPU to find a new head football coach, the expectations that are placed upon him both on and off the field, and what changes (if any) the school plans to make with regard to football operations.
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"Tale of the Tape" – North Central vs. Linfield

Records:
   North Central:       9-2, 6-1
   Linfield:               10-0, 6-0


Statistical Category
North Central
Linfield
Comment
Offense Scoring
39.4
43.0
Defense Scoring
15.3
17.0
Off Pass Efficiency
157.7
156.1
Off Pass Completion %
66.1
60.7
Off Pass YPG
218.3
318.8
Off Pass TD's
20
35
Off INT's
8
6
Def Pass Efficiency
96.6
107.6
Def Pass Completion %
53.6
52.7
Def Pass YPG
170.0
208.4
Pass TD's Allowed
8
13
Def INT's
19
12
Kick Return Ave
21.8
21.3
Punt Return Ave
17.9
12.4
Punting Net
36.1
36.3
NCC 38 punts, Linfield 38
Turnover Margin
+4
+10
Off Rush YPG
216.2
143.3
Off Yards Per Carry
5.4
4.0
Off Rush TD's
33
17
Def Rush YPG
94.3
69.2
Def Yards Per Carry
2.7
1.9
Def Rush TD's Allowed
8
9
Total Offense
434.5
462.1
Total Defense
264.3
277.6
Sacks By
36
57
Sacks Allowed
13
18
NCC: 269 pass attempts, Linfield: 389
1st Downs
240
233
1st Downs Allowed
172
164
Penalty YPG
58.6
90.7
Red Zone Offense
85.5
78.0
NCC 40 TDs, 7 FG's : Linfield 38 TDs, 5 FG's
Red Zone Defense
60.0
79.0
Off 3rd Down Conv %
44.2
43.0
Opp 3rd Down Conv %
29.2
32.0
Field Goals
13 of 20
10 of 21
PAT's
56 of 56
54 of 56
Time of Pos
30:01
27:42
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Mr. Ypsi

Prior to yesterday's games, I figured Linfield was a lock to make the regional finals.  After seeing both NCC/CLu and Linfield/PLu, I would now make the game this weekend a 'pick-em', with perhaps even a slight nod to NCC.

Aside from possible turnovers (duh!), I'd say the key to the game is whether the Linfield rush defense can handle the NCC rush offense.  Overall, the stats Mugsy just gave are remarkably similar; much more so than I would have guessed.

Mugsy

"Tale of the Tape" – Elmhurst vs. St. Thomas

Records:
   Elmhurst:        10-1, 6-1
   St. Thomas:    11-0, 8-0


Statistical Category
Elmhurst
St. Thomas
Comment
Offense Scoring
32.3
37.3
Defense Scoring
21.4
14.5
Off Pass Efficiency
138.0
132.0
Off Pass Completion %
61.3
57.0
Off Pass YPG
169.0
228.2
Off Pass TD's
14
22
Off INT's
6
16
Def Pass Efficiency
124.7
102.4
Def Pass Completion %
57.1
51.8
Def Pass YPG
180.1
199.5
Pass TD's Allowed
14
14
Def INT's
11
15
Kick Return Ave
20.0
16.9
Punt Return Ave
6.4
7.2
Punting Net
32.1
37.8
Elmhurst 36 punts, St. Thomas 37
Turnover Margin
+16
+1
Off Rush YPG
253.8
254.2
Off Yards Per Carry
5.5
5.4
Off Rush TD's
29
34
Def Rush YPG
202.6
66.5
Def Yards Per Carry
5.1
2.2
Def Rush TD's Allowed
16
6
Total Offense
422.8
482.4
Total Defense
382.7
265.9
Sacks By
14
36
Sacks Allowed
9
9
Elmhurst: 248 pass attempts, St. Thomas: 335
1st Downs
249
256
1st Downs Allowed
217
162
Penalty YPG
57.2
68.9
Red Zone Offense
77.6
Elmhurst 31 TDs, 7 FG's
Red Zone Defense
70.3
Off 3rd Down Conv %
47.9
43.0
Opp 3rd Down Conv %
50.0
26.0
Field Goals
12 of 19
5 of 10
PAT's
41 of 45
45 of 48
Time of Pos
31:47
32:12
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bluenote

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on November 18, 2012, 11:07:30 PM
Prior to yesterday's games, I figured Linfield was a lock to make the regional finals. 
Aside from possible turnovers (duh!), I'd say the key to the game is whether the Linfield rush defense can handle the NCC rush offense. 

Well you probably never saw PLU back in the day either  ;)  Frosty vs Ad.....classic.   8-)

D O.C.

North Central Roster - 101
LINFIELD roster - 128

Of course, I know there are roster limits at this time of year, but I know every guy on the third team LINFIELD roster is sorry negative stats got built up against them when their turn came.  They are also wiser from so much playing time.

Hey! Brian Wilson plays for North Central. You guys must be tough AND fun.

NCF

Quote from: D O.C. on November 19, 2012, 01:19:41 AM
North Central Roster - 101
LINFIELD roster - 128

Of course, I know there are roster limits at this time of year, but I know every guy on the third team LINFIELD roster is sorry negative stats got built up against them when their turn came.  They are also wiser from so much playing time.

Hey! Brian Wilson plays for North Central. You guys must be tough AND fun.
The same could be said for NC"s 2's and 3's. Looking forward to a great game.
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What time did the NCC football team return on Sunday ... and when do they leave for Round 2?
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Quote from: coocooforcoekohawk on November 18, 2012, 07:00:09 PM
Congratulations Elmhurst BlueJays!!!

I think the most telling stat in this game was 4th down conversions.

Your quarterback was better than we thought he was going to be as well.

The better team won.

Congratulations as a conference as well, two road wins in one weekend. Hope you do it again next weekend!

I had a bad feeling when Coe didn't score on their first possession of the second half. That was a key 4th down conversion Coe did not make.  4th down conversions were the difference.

I was surprised that Coe didn't opt for a FG on the first drive of the 2nd half. That would have moved the margin to 7 points and seemed make-able for their kicker.

Pat Coleman

Quote from: DBQ1965 on November 19, 2012, 08:34:16 AM
What time did the NCC football team return on Sunday ... and when do they leave for Round 2?

It was a charter flight, so that makes the travel easier. If I remember correctly from Twitter, they returned home Saturday night. I know that's typical for teams traveling by NCAA charter.
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Quote from: Mugsy on November 18, 2012, 10:50:25 PM
"Tale of the Tape" – North Central vs. Linfield

Records:
   North Central:       9-2, 6-1
   Linfield:               10-0, 6-0


Statistical Category
North Central
Linfield
Comment
Offense Scoring
39.4
43.0
Defense Scoring
15.3
17.0
Off Pass Efficiency
157.7
156.1
Off Pass Completion %
66.1
60.7
Off Pass YPG
218.3
318.8
Off Pass TD's
20
35
Off INT's
8
6
Def Pass Efficiency
96.6
107.6
Def Pass Completion %
53.6
52.7
Def Pass YPG
170.0
208.4
Pass TD's Allowed
8
13
Def INT's
19
12
Kick Return Ave
21.8
21.3
Punt Return Ave
17.9
12.4
Punting Net
36.1
36.3
NCC 38 punts, Linfield 38
Turnover Margin
+4
+10
Off Rush YPG
216.2
143.3
Off Yards Per Carry
5.4
4.0
Off Rush TD's
33
17
Def Rush YPG
94.3
69.2
Def Yards Per Carry
2.7
1.9
Def Rush TD's Allowed
8
9
Total Offense
434.5
462.1
Total Defense
264.3
277.6
Sacks By
36
57
Sacks Allowed
13
18
NCC: 269 pass attempts, Linfield: 389
1st Downs
240
233
1st Downs Allowed
172
164
Penalty YPG
58.6
90.7
Red Zone Offense
85.5
78.0
NCC 40 TDs, 7 FG's : Linfield 38 TDs, 5 FG's
Red Zone Defense
60.0
79.0
Off 3rd Down Conv %
44.2
43.0
Opp 3rd Down Conv %
29.2
32.0
Field Goals
13 of 20
10 of 21
PAT's
56 of 56
54 of 56
Time of Pos
30:01
27:42

Nice job mugsy.. 8-)

Looks like this could be a real barn burner on paper.. 8-)

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