FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[kiko]

Crazy situation if Wheaton beats North Central next week.  If the selection committee takes two CCIW teams, who gets left out?  That's with the assumption that all 3 teams finish 9-1, & 6-1.

I would think that, once the AQ team is pulled out of the equation, then it would be very difficult for the selection committee to ignore the head-to-head result between the remaining two teams if it came down to a choice between them at some point in the selection process.

[USee]

Crazy situation if Wheaton beats North Central next week.  If the selection committee takes two CCIW teams, who gets left out?  That's with the assumption that all 3 teams finish 9-1, & 6-1.

I would think that, once the AQ team is pulled out of the equation, then it would be very difficult for the selection committee to ignore the head-to-head result between the remaining two teams if it came down to a choice between them at some point in the selection process.

I am pretty sure that's right. Wheaton has to win by 21 next week or they are likely on the outside looking in. If NCC wins the AQ, for Pool C, only IWU and Wheaton would be considered and the HTH would rule.

[FishHack76]

Let's hope our Titans re-group and win the final two games, get into the playoffs at 9-1.  A good chance I would think.

IWU70

Very good chance at 9-1, I would imagine.

[USee]

Same thing you would have said last year. 

[AndOne]

Crazy situation if Wheaton beats North Central next week.  If the selection committee takes two CCIW teams, who gets left out?  That's with the assumption that all 3 teams finish 9-1, & 6-1.

I would think that, once the AQ team is pulled out of the equation, then it would be very difficult for the selection committee to ignore the head-to-head result between the remaining two teams if it came down to a choice between them at some point in the selection process.

I am pretty sure that's right. Wheaton has to win by 21 next week or they are likely on the outside looking in. If NCC wins the AQ, for Pool C, only IWU and Wheaton would be considered and the HTH would rule.

I think the odds of North DuPage beating North Central by 21 or more points are very, very, very long. One "very" for each TD. 

[Stagg Again!!]

39-17 NCC after an interception ... All over but the crying.

Who's crying?  

This game closer than the final score will show.  Not sure why IWU didn't run the football more.  I really thought they had some success early on and got away from it.

Alum, I don't necessarily agree.  Had he Cards not shot themselves in the foot with 110 yards in timely penalties, and not turned over the ball on one drive, I think the Cardinals may have scored another 10-14 points on a tough and nationally ranked Titan defense.  Plus, you will never convince me that the Titans were close when you look at the rushing stats... NCC 190 IWU 36.  Beyond that, Stanek was BY FAR the best quarterback on the field today.  This game wasn't close at all.  On a neutral field, Cardinals by 35 or 42 points... IMO

[iwu70]

I don't think WC can beat NCC, let alone by 3 TDs.  Not happening.

All the talk about the game being close today etc., really means little at the end of the day.  It was a very convincing NCC win over a very good Titan team.  NCC is still a cut above the rest of the CCIW and until someone really challenges them, has more athletes (esp. in the secondary) or more pressure on their offensive passing format, NCC will continue to collect the CCIW hardware.  IWU did a decent job today through about the middle of the 3 Q, even with the penalties and the turnovers, but then NCC ran away with it.  Even the "fumble" on a reception by NCC was probably an incomplete pass -- the one that led to one of the Titan TDs., made the game close for a time.

I'm proud of the Titans today.  They played hard, tried to overcome the errors, but NCC would just not let them back in, did not make many mistakes.  The NCC offence is not the type or style that makes many mistakes. 

Titans gotta re-group, re-focus and know that the next two games are crucial, esp. at Augie next week, to get into the playoffs ahead of WC. 

IWU70

[Stagg Again!!]

39-17 NCC after an interception ... All over but the crying.

Who's crying?  

This game closer than the final score will show.  Not sure why IWU didn't run the football more.  I really thought they had some success early on and got away from it.

Alum, I don't necessarily agree.  Had he Cards not shot themselves in the foot with 110 yards in timely penalties, and not turned over the ball on one drive, I think the Cardinals may have scored another 10-14 points on a tough and nationally ranked Titan defense.  Plus, you will never convince me that the Titans were close when you look at the rushing stats... NCC 190 IWU 36.  Beyond that, Stanek was BY FAR the best quarterback on the field today.  This game wasn't close at all.  On a neutral field, Cardinals by 35 or 42 points... IMO

Alum, don't know if you realize how good IWU's defense is.  They came into the game with the #13 ranked defense in the country and the #7 ranked rushing defense allowing only 75 yards per game on the ground.  Additionally, IWU's defensive line was ranked #21 in sack yards. 

[AndOne]

39-17 NCC after an interception ... All over but the crying.

Who's crying?  

This game closer than the final score will show.  Not sure why IWU didn't run the football more.  I really thought they had some success early on and got away from it.

Alum, I don't necessarily agree.  Had he Cards not shot themselves in the foot with 110 yards in timely penalties, and not turned over the ball on one drive, I think the Cardinals may have scored another 10-14 points on a tough and nationally ranked Titan defense.  Plus, you will never convince me that the Titans were close when you look at the rushing stats... NCC 190 IWU 36.  Beyond that, Stanek was BY FAR the best quarterback on the field today.  This game wasn't close at all.  On a neutral field, Cardinals by 35 or 42 points... IMO

I agree Stagg.
Beyond Stanek's outstanding performance and the NCC rushing stats advantage, you need only to look at the North Central total yardage advantage of their 527 yards compared to IWU's 283 to see the Cardinals total dominance today.

What they can't do next week against Wheaton is to repeat the mistakes represented by those 110 penalty yards. 

[AndOne]

Does anyone know what the commotion that took place between the teams prior to the start of the NCC/IWU game was all about? 

On the audio, I heard some boisterous Weenie fans yelling something like "get off our W," and "you can't touch our W."

[CardinalAlum]

39-17 NCC after an interception ... All over but the crying.

Who's crying?  

This game closer than the final score will show.  Not sure why IWU didn't run the football more.  I really thought they had some success early on and got away from it.

Alum, I don't necessarily agree.  Had he Cards not shot themselves in the foot with 110 yards in timely penalties, and not turned over the ball on one drive, I think the Cardinals may have scored another 10-14 points on a tough and nationally ranked Titan defense.  Plus, you will never convince me that the Titans were close when you look at the rushing stats... NCC 190 IWU 36.  Beyond that, Stanek was BY FAR the best quarterback on the field today.  This game wasn't close at all.  On a neutral field, Cardinals by 35 or 42 points... IMO

Crazy me, I just looked at the scoreboard when we were only up 8 later in the game....

[iwu70]

Both teams rushed the field before the kickoff, lots of testosterone was flying, lots of yelling and screaming at each other, surrounding the refs as they tried to do the coin toss.  A flag was thrown and "unsportsmanlike" penalties were called on by benches, both teams, the then refs cleared the field and announced that any other unsportsmanlike call during the game would result in the player being ejected.  Strangely, there were such calls -- including one on Stanek -- but no one was ejected.  Let's just say it was a testy beginning and plenty of competitive juices were flowing on both sides.  It did calm down and the game went off OK -- even though both sides did have quite a few key, damaging penalties.  The difference today was the sharp NC offence, esp. Stanek's short passing game.  They surely dominated possession and kept the Titan O off the field.  Clearly the Titan D was getting tired by the latter part of the third period.  That's when the NC RB had several longer runs.  IWU had contained the NC running game pretty well up to that point.  They couldn't stop the NC passing game today, at least not effectively enough.   Two TDs were basically jump balls over the shorter and less-athletic IWU corner.  Gallik threw the two picks in the latter part of the game.  He'd played pretty well up until then.  IWU had some dropped balls, and key penalties, as have been mentioned, that negated some good gains, when it was still 25-17 in the second half of the 3rd Q.

I thought the refs made a few strange calls today, and surely missed a few plays.  Not the best crew I've seen -- weaker than in recent weeks.  But, NCC clearly the better team today, especially late in the game.

IWU70 

[ncc58]

Does anyone know what the commotion that took place between the teams prior to the start of the NCC/IWU game was all about? 

On the audio, I heard some boisterous Weenie fans yelling something like "get off our W," and "you can't touch our W."

It all seem premeditated to me. IWU was ready to make sure that NCC didn't mass in the middle of the field (on the W). NCC wasn't about to back down, and judging from some of the interviews with players before the game, they expected the scene that transpired.

[Stagg Again!!]

Both teams rushed the field before the kickoff, lots of testosterone was flying, lots of yelling and screaming at each other, surrounding the refs as they tried to do the coin toss.  A flag was thrown and "unsportsmanlike" penalties were called on by benches, both teams, the then refs cleared the field and announced that any other unsportsmanlike call during the game would result in the player being ejected.  Strangely, there were such calls -- including one on Stanek -- but no one was ejected.  Let's just say it was a testy beginning and plenty of competitive juices were flowing on both sides.  It did calm down and the game went off OK -- even though both sides did have quite a few key, damaging penalties.  The difference today was the sharp NC offence, esp. Stanek's short passing game.  They surely dominated possession and kept the Titan O off the field.  Clearly the Titan D was getting tired by the latter part of the third period.  That's when the NC RB had several longer runs.  IWU had contained the NC running game pretty well up to that point.  They couldn't stop the NC passing game today, at least not effectively enough.   Two TDs were basically jump balls over the shorter and less-athletic IWU corner.  Gallik threw the two picks in the latter part of the game.  He'd played pretty well up until then.  IWU had some dropped balls, and key penalties, as have been mentioned, that negated some good gains, when it was still 25-17 in the second half of the 3rd Q.

I thought the refs made a few strange calls today, and surely missed a few plays.  Not the best crew I've seen -- weaker than in recent weeks.  But, NCC clearly the better team today, especially late in the game.

IWU70

Nice summary, as usual, iwu70.

[Mr. Ypsi]

iwu70,  your memory starting to go??!!   You keep talking about midway thru the 3rd Q, but it was 25-17 midway thru the FOURTH quarter.  Then the dam broke, and the offense imploded (including Gallik's only two INTs of the day).

Despite the statements of some, it WAS a close game.  I don't deny that NCC looked somewhat stronger the whole way, but with just 7 minutes remaining, it was still anyone's game to win.  IWU just needed a couple of breaks; instead the breaks went NCC's way and the final score got out of hand.

Since with a -18, IWU is eliminated from any 3-way tie (and the ONLY way to still get the AQ is for Wheaton to beat NCC, then NCC lose at home to Augie; I'd sooner bet on the chances of the proverbial snowball in hell ), the Titans are probably best off if NCC beats Wheaton (which I think is likely).  Even if Wheaton wins by 1-19, forcing a 3-way tie but with NCC the winner of the AQ, IWU should be ahead of Wheaton in the C line, due to h-to-h.  The nightmare scenario for IWU is Wheaton winning by 21+, leaving IWU behind the Cards in the C queue.

BTW, anyone know what happens if Wheaton wins by exactly 20 (in which case IWU is -18, and Wheaton and NCC are both +9)?  My guess would be that IWU is eliminated, then Wheaton wins the h-to-h, but anyone know?