FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Kovo]

Just so we can see the data, from the NCAA website these two categories and the leaders are:

Pass Efficiency:

Spencer Stanek, NCC 197.5
Reed Florence, Witt    194.8
Kevin Burke, UMU       192.3
--------------
Erik Peterson, Bethel  171.6
John Kelly, UWP          156
Mark Myers, JCU          153.4
Johnny West, Franklin 151.5

Points Responsible for:

Reed Florence, Witt       276
Johnny West, Franklin   264
Kevin Burke, UMU          258
Spencer Stanek, NCC    252

Please explain points responsible for and how it is impacted by a balanced offense.  Also, where are TDs, INTs, INT/Attempt, etc?

I don't know about the other guys, but Stanek has thrown  36 TDs  1 Int and almost 75% completion rate.

Anyone close to those numbers?

[izzy stradlin]

Just so we can see the data, from the NCAA website these two categories and the leaders are:

Pass Efficiency:

Spencer Stanek, NCC 197.5
Reed Florence, Witt    194.8
Kevin Burke, UMU       192.3
--------------
Erik Peterson, Bethel  171.6
John Kelly, UWP          156
Mark Myers, JCU          153.4
Johnny West, Franklin 151.5

Points Responsible for:

Reed Florence, Witt       276
Johnny West, Franklin   264
Kevin Burke, UMU          258
Spencer Stanek, NCC    252

Please explain points responsible for and how it is impacted by a balanced offense.  Also, where are TDs, INTs, INT/Attempt, etc?

I don't know about the other guys, but Stanek has thrown  36 TDs  1 Int and almost 75% completion rate.

Anyone close to those numbers?

I had a year like that on NCAA Football '11 on Xbox.   

[SaintsFAN]

Just so we can see the data, from the NCAA website these two categories and the leaders are:

Pass Efficiency:

Spencer Stanek, NCC 197.5
Reed Florence, Witt    194.8
Kevin Burke, UMU       192.3
--------------
Erik Peterson, Bethel  171.6
John Kelly, UWP          156
Mark Myers, JCU          153.4
Johnny West, Franklin 151.5

Points Responsible for:

Reed Florence, Witt       276
Johnny West, Franklin   264
Kevin Burke, UMU          258
Spencer Stanek, NCC    252

Please explain points responsible for and how it is impacted by a balanced offense.  Also, where are TDs, INTs, INT/Attempt, etc?

I don't know about the other guys, but Stanek has thrown  36 TDs  1 Int and almost 75% completion rate.

Anyone close to those numbers?

I had a year like that on NCAA Football '11 on Xbox.

My coed flag football team. I had a group of really good girls who could catch..

Seriously though, 75% with a 36/1 ratio is a dream season for a QB. That's Bill Borchert territory.

[AndOne]

Thats why you were named an 'XBox All-American for 2011, Izzy.   

[Kovo]

Just so we can see the data, from the NCAA website these two categories and the leaders are:

Pass Efficiency:

Spencer Stanek, NCC 197.5
Reed Florence, Witt    194.8
Kevin Burke, UMU       192.3
--------------
Erik Peterson, Bethel  171.6
John Kelly, UWP          156
Mark Myers, JCU          153.4
Johnny West, Franklin 151.5

Points Responsible for:

Reed Florence, Witt       276
Johnny West, Franklin   264
Kevin Burke, UMU          258
Spencer Stanek, NCC    252

I looked up two for comparison:

Reed Florence (Whitt) 36 TDs 6 Ints  68%

Kevin Burke (UMU)    35 TDs 6 Ints  63%

[AndOne]

Daily Herald article on yesterday's NCC football game:

https://www.dailyherald.com/article/20131123/sports/711239781/

Among the many outstanding performances:

* DE Alex Tripp with an interception, a forced fumble, a fumble recovery, half a sack, and 8 tackles
* Zack Pattat with 103 rushing yards on only FOUR attempts
* Peter Sorenson with 2 receiving TDs. He now has 14 for the season, one behind the all-time record.
* Kevin Schroeder with a blocked punt which was run in for a TD from the 29 by Jason Callahan.
* NCC did not throw single pass in the 2nd half after 17 in the 1st half, 4 of which went for TDs.
* The Cards with 557 total yards to set a new season record with 5.585.

[izzy stradlin]

Just so we can see the data, from the NCAA website these two categories and the leaders are:

Pass Efficiency:

Spencer Stanek, NCC 197.5
Reed Florence, Witt    194.8
Kevin Burke, UMU       192.3
--------------
Erik Peterson, Bethel  171.6
John Kelly, UWP          156
Mark Myers, JCU          153.4
Johnny West, Franklin 151.5

Points Responsible for:

Reed Florence, Witt       276
Johnny West, Franklin   264
Kevin Burke, UMU          258
Spencer Stanek, NCC    252

Please explain points responsible for and how it is impacted by a balanced offense.  Also, where are TDs, INTs, INT/Attempt, etc?

I don't know about the other guys, but Stanek has thrown  36 TDs  1 Int and almost 75% completion rate.

Anyone close to those numbers?

I had a year like that on NCAA Football '11 on Xbox.

My coed flag football team. I had a group of really good girls who could catch..

Seriously though, 75% with a 36/1 ratio is a dream season for a QB. That's Bill Borchert territory.

Bill Borchert and Bill Brasky.

[kiko]

Sorted on Passing Yards:

Rank   Name   Team   Cl   Position   G   Pass Att   Pass Com   Int   Pass TD   Pass Yds
1   Jonny West   Franklin   Sr.   QB   11   486   320   10   40   3624
2   Graham Craig   LaGrange   Jr.   QB   10   455   283   13   32   3571
3   John Kelly   Wis.-Platteville   Sr.   QB   11   415   282   15   34   3377
4   Mark Myers   John Carroll   Jr.   QB   11   384   245   12   28   3281
5   Mason Espinosa   Ohio Wesleyan   Sr.   QB   10   428   287   6   21   3255
6   Austin Damaschke   Concordia (WI)   Jr.   QB   11   398   250   7   24   3171
7   Matt Grimard   Bethany (WV)   Sr.   QB   10   425   258   12   23   3168
8   Nash Nance   Hampden-Sydney   Jr.   QB   11   388   247   14   25   3117
9   Carter Hill   Waynesburg   Jr.   QB   11   473   292   6   28   3102
10   Justin Danzy   Kalamazoo   So.   QB   9   437   288   8   22   3056
11   Reed Florence   Wittenberg   Sr.   QB   11   285   193   6   36   3039
12   Bryan Bradshaw   Dubuque   Sr.   QB   10   368   218   9   33   3003
13   Max Reber   Methodist   Jr.   QB   10   316   209   6   26   2998
14   Seth Klein   Widener   Fr.   QB   10   383   285   9   17   2809
15   Erik Peterson   Bethel (MN)   Jr.   QB   11   292   205   7   23   2788
16   Spencer Stanek   North Central (IL)   Sr.   QB   11   284   211   1   36   2774
17   Joe Callahan   Wesley   So.   QB   11   384   220   12   21   2767
-   Ayrton Scott   Augsburg   So.   QB   10   346   205   15   25   2767
19   Mccallum Foote   Middlebury   Sr.   QB   8   421   259   12   26   2766
20   Kevin Burke   Mount Union   Jr.   QB   11   259   164   6   35   2745
21   Zack Hayward   Geneva   -   QB   10   421   269   9   14   2739
22   Keith Welch   Lewis & Clark   Sr.   QB   9   412   238   18   28   2736
23   Blake Robles   Eureka   Jr.   QB   10   360   215   7   23   2672
24   Taylor Nelson   Simpson   Sr.   QB   10   342   224   7   24   2608
25   Drew Frenette   Endicott   Jr.   QB   10   326   201   6   24   2585




Sorted on Passing Efficiency:

Passing Efficiency
Last updated - November 24, 2013 Through games of November 23, 2013

                                 
Rank   Name   Team   Cl   Position   G   Pass Att   Pass Com   Int   Pass Yds   Pass TD   Pass Eff
1   Spencer Stanek   North Central (IL)   Sr.   QB   11   284   211   1   2774   36   197.5
2   Reed Florence   Wittenberg   Sr.   QB   11   285   193   6   3039   36   194.8
3   Kevin Burke   Mount Union   Jr.   QB   11   259   164   6   2745   35   192.3
4   Michael Mees   Heidelberg   Jr.   QB   10   204   116   4   2131   27   184.4
5   Michael Lahey   Chapman   Jr.   QB   9   199   150   4   1961   16   180.7
6   Zach Anderson   Mary Hardin-Baylor   So.   QB   11   169   117   8   1646   18   176.7
7   Erik Peterson   Bethel (MN)   Jr.   QB   11   292   205   7   2788   23   171.6
8   Max Reber   Methodist   Jr.   QB   10   316   209   6   2998   26   169.2
9   Ryne Taylor   Huntingdon   Sr.   QB   10   196   121   2   1857   17   167.9
10   Brent Peavy   Texas Lutheran   Sr.   QB   9   295   197   8   2565   28   165.7
11   Griffin Neal   Concordia-M'head   Jr.   QB   10   219   148   10   2158   16   165.3
12   Jensen Gebhardt   Thomas More   So.   QB   10   218   130   7   2007   22   163.8
13   Peter Williams   MIT   Jr.   QB   9   233   156   6   2156   16   162.2
14   Josh Yoder   Linfield   Sr.   QB   10   227   145   7   2070   19   161.9
15   PJ Minaya   Pacific (OR)   Sr.   QB   10   167   108   7   1426   16   159.6
16   Josh Dean   Willamette   Sr.   QB   9   303   192   10   2489   28   156.3
17   John Kelly   Wis.-Platteville   Sr.   QB   11   415   282   15   3377   34   156.1
18   Jesse Warren   Wesleyan (CT)   Jr.   QB   8   167   108   3   1291   15   155.7
19   Zac Naccarato   Randolph-Macon   Jr.   QB   10   184   126   6   1567   12   155.0
20   Robbie Matey   Johns Hopkins   Sr.   QB   11   299   217   5   2339   17   153.7
21   Mark Myers   John Carroll   Jr.   QB   11   384   245   12   3281   28   153.4
22   Bryan Bradshaw   Dubuque   Sr.   QB   10   368   218   9   3003   33   152.5
23   Tyler Fenti   St. John Fisher   Sr.   QB   10   311   204   8   2560   21   151.9
24   Jonny West   Franklin   Sr.   QB   11   486   320   10   3624   40   151.5
25   Michael Bates   Illinois Col.   Jr.   QB   10   301   183   5   2379   25   151.3



Sorted on Completion Percentage:

Completion Percentage
Last updated - November 24, 2013 Through games of November 23, 2013

Rank   Name   Team   Cl   Position   G   Pass Com   Pass Att   Pct
1   Michael Lahey   Chapman   Jr.   QB   9   150   199   .754
2   Seth Klein   Widener   Fr.   QB   10   285   383   .744
3   Spencer Stanek   North Central (IL)   Sr.   QB   11   211   284   .743
4   Robbie Matey   Johns Hopkins   Sr.   QB   11   217   299   .726
5   Erik Peterson   Bethel (MN)   Jr.   QB   11   205   292   .702
6   Zach Anderson   Mary Hardin-Baylor   So.   QB   11   117   169   .692
7   Zac Naccarato   Randolph-Macon   Jr.   QB   10   126   184   .685
8   Brandon Sklenar   Denison   Jr.   QB   10   200   294   .680
9   John Kelly   Wis.-Platteville   Sr.   QB   11   282   415   .680
10   Reed Florence   Wittenberg   Sr.   QB   11   193   285   .677
11   Griffin Neal   Concordia-M'head   Jr.   QB   10   148   219   .676
12   Mason Espinosa   Ohio Wesleyan   Sr.   QB   10   287   428   .671
13   Peter Williams   MIT   Jr.   QB   9   156   233   .670
14   Brent Peavy   Texas Lutheran   Sr.   QB   9   197   295   .668
15   Juan Flores   Cornell College   Sr.   QB   10   186   281   .662
16   Kyle Boden   Emory & Henry   Sr.   QB   10   217   328   .662
17   Max Reber   Methodist   Jr.   QB   10   209   316   .661
18   Justin Danzy   Kalamazoo   So.   QB   9   288   437   .659
19   Jonny West   Franklin   Sr.   QB   11   320   486   .658
20   Tanner Frye   Hendrix   Fr.   QB   10   144   219   .658
21   Tyler Fenti   St. John Fisher   Sr.   QB   10   204   311   .656
22   Taylor Nelson   Simpson   Sr.   QB   10   224   342   .655
23   E.J. Schneider   Frank. & Marsh.   Sr.   QB   11   237   362   .655
24   Tyler Jenny   Lycoming   Jr.   QB   10   161   246   .654
25   Ryan Landwehr   Rose-Hulman   Sr.   QB   10   234   360   .650

[kiko]

By the way, see that guy who is third in passing yards?  Seventeenth in passing efficiency?  Ninth in completion percentage?

He's coming to B-W this weekend.  Maybe we should worry a bit more about him than about who does and does not get individual accolades.  The level of competition is about to step way, way up.

[USee]

The passing efficiency rating is designed to take into account completions per attempt, TDs vs INTs, and total yards. For years it was tough to decide (in the NFL and in College) who was the best QB. First people used total yards but that isn't always the best measure for QB's who throw only vs a balanced attack. Then it was switched to completion percentage. That wasn't a true measure because TD's and INTS weren't included. Passing efficiency was developed in college and the NFL to take into account the most relevant statistics. Now the detractors say it measures the best passers vs the best QB's (it doesn't include rushing stats, fumbles, sacks, etc.). The "Points Responsible For" is pretty self explanatory in that the QB gets credit for both rushing and passing TD's (think fantasy football). So 36 TD's is equal to 216 pts and then another 10 rushing TD's would get you to 276.

In my opinion, the biggest question in the Spencer Stanek debate will center around the overall import to their team. SS is the logical choice as 36 TD's on 1 INT, while completing 74% of his passes is pretty incredible. He also ran for 6 TD's and averaged 35 yds per game on the ground. The only other guys in the conversation, IMO, is Wittenberg's Reed Florence and Mt Union's Kevin Burke.

Spencer Stanek:

211-284 (74%), 2,774 yds, 36 TD's, 1 INT, 252 yds per game, 13.1 yds per completion,  197.5% passer efficiency
70 rushes, 386 yds, 5.5 yd avg, 6 TD's, 35.1 yds per game
287.1 total yds per game, 252 pts respsonsible for

Reed Florence:

193-285 (68%), 3,039 yds, 36 TD's, 6 INT, 276 yds per game, 15.7 yds per completion, 194.8% efficiency
122 rushes, 372 yds, 3 yd avg,  9 TD's, 34 yds per game
310 total yds per game, 276 pts responsible for

Kevin Burke:

164-259 (63.3%), 2,745 yds, 35 TD's, 6 INT, 250 yds per game, 16.7 yds per attempt, 192.3 % efficiency
126 rushes, 786 yds, 6.2 yd avg, 8 TD's, 72 yds per game
321 total yds per game, 258 pts responsible for

[USee]

And "That guy...coming to B-W Stadium" is UWP's John Kelly:

282-415 (68%), 3,377 yds, 34 TD's, 15 INT, 307 yds per game, 11.9 yds per completion, 156% efficiency
60 rushes, 271 yds, 4.5 yd avg, 3 TD's, 20.1 yds per game
327 total yds per game, 222 pts resonsible for

[USee]

The passing efficiency rating is designed to take into account completions per attempt, TDs vs INTs, and total yards. For years it was tough to decide (in the NFL and in College) who was the best QB. First people used total yards but that isn't always the best measure for QB's who throw only vs a balanced attack. Then it was switched to completion percentage. That wasn't a true measure because TD's and INTS weren't included. Passing efficiency was developed in college and the NFL to take into account the most relevant statistics. Now the detractors say it measures the best passers vs the best QB's (it doesn't include rushing stats, fumbles, sacks, etc.). The "Points Responsible For" is pretty self explanatory in that the QB gets credit for both rushing and passing TD's (think fantasy football). So 36 TD's is equal to 216 pts and then another 10 rushing TD's would get you to 276.

In my opinion, the biggest question in the Spencer Stanek debate will center around the overall import to their team. SS is the logical choice as 36 TD's on 1 INT, while completing 74% of his passes is pretty incredible. He also ran for 6 TD's and averaged 35 yds per game on the ground. The only other guys in the conversation, IMO, is Wittenberg's Reed Florence and Mt Union's Kevin Burke.

Spencer Stanek:

211-284 (74%), 2,774 yds, 36 TD's, 1 INT, 252 yds per game, 13.1 yds per completion,  197.5% passer efficiency
70 rushes, 386 yds, 5.5 yd avg, 6 TD's, 35.1 yds per game
287.1 total yds per game, 252 pts respsonsible for

Reed Florence:

193-285 (68%), 3,039 yds, 36 TD's, 6 INT, 276 yds per game, 15.7 yds per completion, 194.8% efficiency
122 rushes, 372 yds, 3 yd avg,  9 TD's, 34 yds per game
310 total yds per game, 276 pts responsible for

Kevin Burke:

164-259 (63.3%), 2,745 yds, 35 TD's, 6 INT, 250 yds per game, 16.7 yds per attempt, 192.3 % efficiency
126 rushes, 786 yds, 6.2 yd avg, 8 TD's, 72 yds per game
321 total yds per game, 258 pts responsible for

The good news is Florence vs Burke is this weekend and Stanek vs the winner would be in the Semi's. We get to see these three HTH, which will be fun.

[Stagg Again!!]

Just so we can see the data, from the NCAA website these two categories and the leaders are:

Pass Efficiency:

Spencer Stanek, NCC 197.5
Reed Florence, Witt    194.8
Kevin Burke, UMU       192.3
--------------
Erik Peterson, Bethel  171.6
John Kelly, UWP          156
Mark Myers, JCU          153.4
Johnny West, Franklin 151.5

Points Responsible for:

Reed Florence, Witt       276
Johnny West, Franklin   264
Kevin Burke, UMU          258
Spencer Stanek, NCC    252

Please explain points responsible for and how it is impacted by a balanced offense.  Also, where are TDs, INTs, INT/Attempt, etc?

I don't know about the other guys, but Stanek has thrown  36 TDs  1 Int and almost 75% completion rate.

Anyone close to those numbers?

I had a year like that on NCAA Football '11 on Xbox.

LMAO!!!  Were you an All-American?

[Stagg Again!!]

Thats why you were named an 'XBox All-American for 2011, Izzy.   

You beat me to the punch!!!

[hazzben]

The good news is Florence vs Burke is this weekend and Stanek vs the winner would be in the Semi's. We get to see these three HTH, which will be fun.

That last sentence might be getting a little ahead of ourselves