FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[thunderdog]

"Chicago"? Hmpf. Wheaton College is 30 miles and an hour's drive outside of Chicago (i.e., the Loop).

I've always suspected that Wheaton recruiters emphasize the school's proximity to Chicago when talking to prospects and its distance from Chicago when talking to parents.

Hilarious GS. You're intel on the inner workings of the WC football program never ceases to amaze...

[izzy stradlin]

Was just glancing at the Wheaton record book and noticed something that hasn't been mentioned. 

With their win against Augustana this year, Wheaton now has the all-time series lead against Augie (30-29-2) and the all-time series lead against every CCIW team. 

Kind of a big deal-- credit to Harve Chrouser, JR Bishop, Mike Swider.    I'm pretty sure IWU is able to say the same in basketball.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Was just glancing at the Wheaton record book and noticed something that hasn't been mentioned. 

With their win against Augustana this year, Wheaton now has the all-time series lead against Augie (30-29-2) and the all-time series lead against every CCIW team. 

Kind of a big deal-- credit to Harve Chrouser, JR Bishop, Mike Swider.    I'm pretty sure IWU is able to say the same in basketball.

And then some!  IWU vs.:

Augie     92-70
Carroll    59-16
Carthage 97-26
Elmhurst 106-23
Millikin    146-78
NCC        115-41
NPU(C)     81-31
Wheaton   80-44

[izzy stradlin]

Was just glancing at the Wheaton record book and noticed something that hasn't been mentioned. 

With their win against Augustana this year, Wheaton now has the all-time series lead against Augie (30-29-2) and the all-time series lead against every CCIW team. 

Kind of a big deal-- credit to Harve Chrouser, JR Bishop, Mike Swider.    I'm pretty sure IWU is able to say the same in basketball.

And then some!  IWU vs.:

Augie     92-70
Carroll    59-16
Carthage 97-26
Elmhurst 106-23
Millikin    146-78
NCC        115-41
NPU(C)     81-31
Wheaton   80-44

I should've known not to mention IWU basketball on the football board.  Someone give me -K.   

[Mr. Ypsi]

Was just glancing at the Wheaton record book and noticed something that hasn't been mentioned. 

With their win against Augustana this year, Wheaton now has the all-time series lead against Augie (30-29-2) and the all-time series lead against every CCIW team. 

Kind of a big deal-- credit to Harve Chrouser, JR Bishop, Mike Swider.    I'm pretty sure IWU is able to say the same in basketball.

And then some!  IWU vs.:

Augie     92-70
Carroll    59-16
Carthage 97-26
Elmhurst 106-23
Millikin    146-78
NCC        115-41
NPU(C)     81-31
Wheaton   80-44

I should've known not to mention IWU basketball on the football board.  Someone give me -K.   

Are you kidding?  For a free shot like that I gave you a +k!

(Of course, I may get outvoted by others! )

[USee]

Ok. I've been thinking a lot about this game and here is my analysis, for better or worse:

UMHB: Loaded. Their QB is a dual threat category of one in D3 (193-287/67.2%/2797 yds/33 TDs/6 INT/118 rush 5.8 ypc). Markeith Miller (1,302 yds/8.2 ypc) is explosive and hard to bring down. They have speed at WR (3 guys with 32, 42, and 48 catches) and their OLine is very physical in the running game. On defense Teidrick Smith (14 sacks, 3x DPOY) is a wrecking ball. I watched 3 games and you can't cut him and he doesn't stay blocked. Kind of a Dwight Freeney (with a similarly devastating spin move on his pass rush). Aston Adams is 295 lbs DT with 17.5 TFL.  Baylor Mullins is fast and is always in the right place. Keith Reinecke is an aggressive tackler and very athletic.

Most people in D3 expect a double digit UMHB win. Many of those are basing it on Linfield's two losses in Belton but the smart ones are basing it on the analysis that this may well be the best UMHB team anyone has seen so far (a.k.a. very Purple Power in quality). So what's the scenario that gives the Thunder a win? This is without question the best, most balanced and explosive offense the Thunder has seen. NCC was prolific at passing and struggled to run the ball. Huntington was good at both but this QB is more explosive. Wheaton's Defense, which is more highly ranked than UMHB's defense in most categories, is very athletic and better than any defense MHB has faced so far. Wheaton's D is likely better than HSU and Linfield and will need to keep MHB to 24 pts or less (very tall task)

On the other side, MHB has a powerful, athletic defense that stops the run and gets after the passer. Sound familiar? Wheaton's offense is balanced and has been very productive since their bye week as they have been about 60/40 run v pass. MHB has faced Linfield 2x who has a great offense and scored 27 and 10 respectively. MHB has given up 21 pts 5x this season and 28 pts 1x. 6th ranked rush defense and top 20 at pressuring the QB.

Wheaton' path to win is keep this game in the 20's for each side. A high scoring affair favors the Cru big time. I am assuming (big assumption) that special teams will be a draw. UMHB has 4 return TD's this year and has a wicked return game. Wheaton has been very good on ST all year (with one notable before half exception in October). If Wheaton can figure out a way to win the turnover battle and get 28 pts while frustrating the explosive athletes on MHB to 21-24, they can pull this out.

Now, I remember putting an analysis like this together a couple years ago before playing NCC in Wheaton. I said we can't have a high scoring affair and Wheaton's D will need to hold them under 3 scores, blah blah blah. Then we had a 34-31 track meet with Wheaton winning on a FG at the end. So who knows what transpires. The smart money is betting on a double digit Cru win, but if Wheaton has a chance it will likely happen by following the path I described.

[DFWCrufan]

Great analysis, there is one thing that springs to my mind about Wheaton, they know weather.. they have experience dealing with adverse conditions (their snow bowl last season) This Cru has dealt with rain and wind, but not this season all that much. With a Texas rain, and from what I am hearing it is going to pour, footing and holding onto a ball in conditions can get sloppy. Wheatons coaching staff and I would bet some players know the wet and cold and experiencing snow and slippery and cold could be a small factor. you never know what is going to happen until the end of the fourth quarter... if it rains lets hope for just rain, no Thunderstorms... That can really mess things up

[DBQ1965]

Was just glancing at the Wheaton record book and noticed something that hasn't been mentioned. 

With their win against Augustana this year, Wheaton now has the all-time series lead against Augie (30-29-2) and the all-time series lead against every CCIW team. 

Kind of a big deal-- credit to Harve Chrouser, JR Bishop, Mike Swider.    I'm pretty sure IWU is able to say the same in basketball.

I wondered why Jack Schwartz was left off the list.  Upon checking the records, he coached from 1961 to 1968 during the time Wheaton was out of the CCIW, so no games against Augustana.

[formerd3db]

Yes, very nice analysis, USee (as you always do, good rational thought process and insight).  Nothing against our MHB fans here, but I will be rooting for your Wheaton (since they are in our Midwest and, of course, a Hope rival sometimes! ).  From my perspective, I kind of look at it like some of these recent outcomes this year of the all-time great rivalries such as the Michigan/Ohio State and Michigan/Michigan State, and even our Hope/Albion game this year as well.  Conventional thinking (and betting ) was that Ohio State, Michigan and Hope were going to win heavily, but as was seen, the games were all very close.  I agree that there is no room for mistakes for Wheaton and if they avoid that, certainly an upset is possible.  Best wishes.

[GillCJ1]

Yes, very nice analysis, USee (as you always do, good rational thought process and insight).  Nothing against our MHB fans here, but I will be rooting for your Wheaton (since they are in our Midwest and, of course, a Hope rival sometimes! ).  From my perspective, I kind of look at it like some of these recent outcomes this year of the all-time great rivalries such as the Michigan/Ohio State and Michigan/Michigan State, and even our Hope/Albion game this year as well.  Conventional thinking (and betting ) was that Ohio State, Michigan and Hope were going to win heavily, but as was seen, the games were all very close.  I agree that there is no room for mistakes for Wheaton and if they avoid that, certainly an upset is possible.  Best wishes.

How dare you?!?!?   

Here's hoping for a competitive and injury-free game tomorrow.  Thanks for the fun discussion and analysis.

[formerd3db]

Yes, very nice analysis, USee (as you always do, good rational thought process and insight).  Nothing against our MHB fans here, but I will be rooting for your Wheaton (since they are in our Midwest and, of course, a Hope rival sometimes! ).  From my perspective, I kind of look at it like some of these recent outcomes this year of the all-time great rivalries such as the Michigan/Ohio State and Michigan/Michigan State, and even our Hope/Albion game this year as well.  Conventional thinking (and betting ) was that Ohio State, Michigan and Hope were going to win heavily, but as was seen, the games were all very close.  I agree that there is no room for mistakes for Wheaton and if they avoid that, certainly an upset is possible.  Best wishes.

How dare you?!?!?   

Here's hoping for a competitive and injury-free game tomorrow.  Thanks for the fun discussion and analysis.

Yeah, I know, GillCJ!  Sorry about that. But, for sure, I am with you regarding hoping for a really good, competitive (like the 3 games I cited) AND INJURY-FREE game tomorrow.  Best to you and everyone for safe travels and hopefully also decent weather.

[D O.C.]

Safe travel.

[thunderdog]

Wheaton Thunder...

LET'S ROLL

[New Tradition]

Good luck to the Thunder today!!  We're all behind you!

[wally_wabash]

Pat is reporting that Peltz will start today, which, awesome- but if not as an injury replacement, why now?