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Mr. Ypsi

Question from totally out in left field:  Is there an "official" pronunciation for that sea to the southeast of us:

   1.  CARE uh be un
   2,  Ca RIB ee un

I confess to using them pretty interchangeably: as a noun standing alone it is usually #1, as an adjective generally #2, but I'm not real consistent.  Just wondering if I am sometimes 'right' and sometimes 'wrong'. or is it simply arbitrary?

I'm betting this group of scholars can say (or confuse this issue even further!) ;)

MUC57

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Mr. Ypsi

My dictionary lists your #1 (CARE uh be un) as the #1 pronunciation. It's named after the CARE ib Indians. Your #2 (ca RIB ee un) is regarded in some circles as an affectation but is listed as #2.
So, I guess, both are correct. I use #1 myself. Hope that helps.

Your #1 is more like CARE uh BEE un. I don't know how to change my post.
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mr_b

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Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 26, 2018, 11:26:38 PM
Question from totally out in left field:  Is there an "official" pronunciation for that sea to the southeast of us:

   1.  CARE uh be un
   2,  Ca RIB ee un

I confess to using them pretty interchangeably: as a noun standing alone it is usually #1, as an adjective generally #2, but I'm not real consistent.  Just wondering if I am sometimes 'right' and sometimes 'wrong'. or is it simply arbitrary?

I'm betting this group of scholars can say (or confuse this issue even further!) ;)
from the Merriam Webster online dictionary:

Ca·rib·be·an | \ ˌker-ə-ˈbē-ən ,  ˌka-rə- , kə-ˈri-bē-ən  \

from the Oxford English online dictionary, which shows pronunciations for British English and U.S. English:

Brit.   /ˌkarᵻˈbiːən/, /kəˈrɪbɪən/,  U.S. /ˌkɛrəˈbiən/, /kəˈrɪbiən/



HOPEful

Both are acceptable.

CAH-RAH-BEE-AHN is the Spanish pronunciation.

In American English, both CUH - RIB - EEE- ANN & CARE - UH - BE - ANN are considered acceptable pronunciations.

Let's go Dutchmen!

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mr_b

Quote from: HOPEful on September 27, 2018, 08:14:04 AM
Both are acceptable.

CAH-RAH-BEE-AHN is the Spanish pronunciation.

I think you mean that this variant is modeled after the Spanish word stress.  The Spanish pronunciation is / ka ri 'be njo / (with the stress on the penultimate syllable).

MUC57


Mr. Ypsi

Wow! That was fun. Gave us something to talk about. What else ya got?
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robertgoulet

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 26, 2018, 11:26:38 PM
Question from totally out in left field:  Is there an "official" pronunciation for that sea to the southeast of us:

   1.  CARE uh be un
   2,  Ca RIB ee un

I confess to using them pretty interchangeably: as a noun standing alone it is usually #1, as an adjective generally #2, but I'm not real consistent.  Just wondering if I am sometimes 'right' and sometimes 'wrong'. or is it simply arbitrary?

I'm betting this group of scholars can say (or confuse this issue even further!) ;)

Ypsi, I will gladly take a trip down there (all expenses paid by you, of course) to verify this.
You win! You always do!

MUC57


robertgoulet

Damn! I wish I had thought of that. Drop me a postcard, please. Thanks in advance.
I'm old! I get mixed up and I forget things! Go Everybody! 🏈 ☠

HOPEful

Quote from: mr_b on September 27, 2018, 08:51:13 AM
Quote from: HOPEful on September 27, 2018, 08:14:04 AM
Both are acceptable.

CAH-RAH-BEE-AHN is the Spanish pronunciation.

I think you mean that this variant is modeled after the Spanish word stress.  The Spanish pronunciation is / ka ri 'be njo / (with the stress on the penultimate syllable).

Yes. My bad. The spanish word is indeed Caribe, not Caribbean :)
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79jaybird

If I run into a situation like this, I'd just say El Mar   (translates to "The Sea) and hope your audience knows which body of water you are referring to.

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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: robertgoulet on September 27, 2018, 09:05:12 AM
Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on September 26, 2018, 11:26:38 PM
Question from totally out in left field:  Is there an "official" pronunciation for that sea to the southeast of us:

   1.  CARE uh be un
   2,  Ca RIB ee un

I confess to using them pretty interchangeably: as a noun standing alone it is usually #1, as an adjective generally #2, but I'm not real consistent.  Just wondering if I am sometimes 'right' and sometimes 'wrong'. or is it simply arbitrary?

I'm betting this group of scholars can say (or confuse this issue even further!) ;)

Ypsi, I will gladly take a trip down there (all expenses paid by you, of course) to verify this.

Sorry, but despite what Gregory says, sometimes I prefer to do my own research! ;D

Gregory Sager

Anything else we can help you with, Chuck? The circumference of the Earth? The proper spelling of ratatouille? The lyrics to "Wooly Bully"? ;)
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wheels81

Ok I guess I heard my name...GS
I don't think the Miilikin broadcast team had too much to joke about last weekend.

Another discrepancy in stats.  https://wheaton_ftp.sidearmsports.com/custompages/football/Highlights/2018/Millikin/Nichols%20TD.mp4
This was a play from the Milikin 45 yard line but was described as a 55 yard td. reception for Nichols in the Box score.?  It should have been a 45 yard recepiton. right?
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Pat Coleman

Agreed -- the yardage discrepancy stems from misplacing the interception and return on the previous play.
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