FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Whitecarrera]

Here's a motivational video:  NCC @ Wabash in 2011.

That was an amazing comeback.  Doubt we will see any miracles this time, but you just never know.

We won't because a 4 loss season and getting to the playoffs is just good enough.

Golfer  --  you need to turn in your W Card (if you've even got one)!

[wally_wabash]

NCC was looking ahead to Mount Union 2011 and they got bushwacked in C'ville. 

North Central lost in 2011 because Wabash was better, not because North Central's attention was elsewhere. 

[Stagg Again!!]

Here's a motivational video:  NCC @ Wabash in 2011.

Thanks ncc fan... I just got pissed off all over again watching the video of that game in Crawfordsville.  I would bet that Tyler Burke is still spitting up blood from the beating he took that afternoon.  CJ Gum was a beast for the Giants.

[firstdown]

Wally I don't disagree, the 2011 version of the LG's was a very good team.  There was some looking ahead to Mount in 2011 by NCC. This year the NCC faithful are totally focused on Alliance. If the Cardinals are doing likewise, the LG's could give them a surprise.  CJ was indeed a beast, but the latest Buresh upholds the family tradition quite well.

[Stagg Again!!]

NCC was looking ahead to Mount Union 2011 and they got bushwacked in C'ville. 

North Central lost in 2011 because Wabash was better, not because North Central's attention was elsewhere.

Wally, that was certainly an exciting game in 2011.  The Giants had a lot of talent on both sides of the ball, but Tyler Burke was the difference maker on that windy afternoon.  He made every play in the 4Q, despite getting hit hard and often.  Wabash's top two WRs outplayed NCC's secondary in the second half.

[USee]

A few weeks ago I posted this:

The Thunder travel to Waukesha to play Carroll today. The Thunder are obviously very talented across the board with difference makers on both sides. Their defense is ranked #1 in the country and their statistics on defense are mind blowing and stronger than any defense I can remember at Wheaton. They have a senior laden secondary and speed at LB with a guy in Ryan Schwartz that has more than capably filled the shoes of DPOY Eric Stevenson from last year. But the biggest reason they are #1 in defense, undefeated and a possible Stagg Bowl candidate is their defensive line. Their 4 man front are 4 of the top 7 tacklers on the team, which is unheard of for an entire defensive line. Though stats are not the only measure of a defensive line (due to styles of defense) here are some comparison's of Wheaton's front 4 to other national leaders:

Through 7 games:

DT Dallas McCrae 37 tackles, 13.5 TFL, 5.5 sacks
DT Jake Holaday 34 tackles, 9 TFL, 2.5 sacks
DE Pat O'Connell 26 tackles, 9 TFL, 5 sacks
DE River Shindledecker 23 tackles, 8 TFL, 5.5 sacks

Compared with a mix of the pre-season D3.Com AA team and top 25 D3.Com DL leaders stats:

1st Team Pre season AA DE Andrew Roesch (Mt Union) 18 tackles, 6 TFL, 2 sacks
1st Team pre season AA DT Joey Longoria (UMHB) 40 tackles, 8.5 TFL, 2 sacks
1st Team Pre Season AA DT Conner Bogard (JCU) 42 tackles, 6 TFL, 3.5 sacks
1st Team Pre Season AA DE Frankie Feaster (Muhlenberg) 36 tackles, 15 TFL, 9 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DE Michael Nobile (Del Val) 42 tackles, 20 TFL, 7.5 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DT Taj Gooden (Weleyan) 22 tackles, 4.5 TFL, 0 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DT D'On Coofer (Rhodes) 28 tackles, 5 TFL, 1.5 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DE David Gajderowicz (Rowan) 24 tackles, 6 TFL, 2.5 sacks
3rd Team Pre Season AA DT Tommy Hyland (NCC) 15 tackles, 2 TFL, 1 sack

Other:
DE Emonte Smith (UMHB) 35 tackles, 13.5 TFL, 5 sacks
DE Jordan Brand (UWW) 26 tackles, 7.5 TFL, 5 sacks
DL JW Windsor (St Johns) 19 tackles, 5 TFL, 4.5 sacks
DL John Hadac (Ithaca) 34 tackles, 10 TFL, 6.5 sacks

It's really impressive to have not just Dallas McCrae, who is a shoe in for DPOY in the league, but 4 DL among the nations  leaders in production from the top teams. While Wheaton is really good at a number of positions including RB, WR, OL and DB, anyone who really wants to know why Wheaton has taken a step up this year and is in the conversation for a deep run, look no further than those 4 dudes up front on defense.

I have updated the stats for these players as follows:


through 10 games Wheaton's DLine:

DT Dallas McCrae 43 tackles, 15.5 TFL, 6.5 sacks
DT Jake Holaday 45 tackles, 11 TFL, 2.5 sacks
DE Pat O'Connell 35 tackles, 10 TFL, 5 sacks
DE River Shindledecker 32 tackles, 11.5 TFL, 6.5 sacks

Compared with a mix of the pre-season D3.Com AA team and top 25 D3.Com DL leaders stats:

1st Team Pre season AA DE Andrew Roesch (Mt Union) 23 tackles, 7 TFL, 2.5 sacks
1st Team pre season AA DT Joey Longoria (UMHB) 49 tackles, 10.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks
1st Team Pre Season AA DT Conner Bogard (JCU) 62 tackles, 7.5 TFL, 3.5 sacks
1st Team Pre Season AA DE Frankie Feaster (Muhlenberg) 51 tackles, 20 TFL, 11.5 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DE Michael Nobile (Del Val) 61 tackles, 26.5 TFL, 10 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DT Taj Gooden (Weleyan) 24 tackles, 5.5 TFL, 3 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DT D'On Coofer (Rhodes) 39 tackles, 5.5 TFL, 1.5 sacks
2nd Team Pre Season AA DE David Gajderowicz (Rowan) 40 tackles, 10.5 TFL, 4.5 sacks
3rd Team Pre Season AA DT Tommy Hyland (NCC) 23 tackles, 3.5 TFL, 2.5 sack

Other:
DE Emonte Smith (UMHB) 45 tackles, 16.5 TFL, 6 sacks
DE Jordan Brand (UWW) 36 tackles, 11 TFL, 7.5 sacks
DL JW Windsor (St Johns) 32 tackles, 7 TFL, 5.5 sacks
DL John Hadac (Ithaca) 47 tackles, 13 TFL, 7.5 sacks

What's different about this Wheaton team than any other I have seen in 35 years are these 4 guys. 4 dudes among the top 15 in the nation all on the same DLine. They are the reason this is the #1 ranked defense in the country when other years they have been top 10 but not #1. They are the reason NCC is 9-1. They will carry this team as far as they can go. Lot's of other talent on this team but these four are the difference between title talk and hopeful quarterfinal team in my opinion.

[USee]

I believe CCIW all conference awards are issued tomorrow. I suspect we will see:

OPOY Broc Rutter (NCC QB)
DPOY Dallas McCrae (Wheaton DT)
COY: Mike Swider (Wheaton) Larry K is the sentimental choice.

Wheaton's Defense will be well represented.

[kiko]

NCC was looking ahead to Mount Union 2011 and they got bushwacked in C'ville. 

North Central lost in 2011 because Wabash was better, not because North Central's attention was elsewhere.

Wally, that was certainly an exciting game in 2011.  The Giants had a lot of talent on both sides of the ball, but Tyler Burke was the difference maker on that windy afternoon.  He made every play in the 4Q, despite getting hit hard and often.  Wabash's top two WRs outplayed NCC's secondary in the second half.

100% agree with this.  The Wabash QB rose to the occasion, and North Central's defense gave up too many big plays and couldn't get the stops they needed to get off the field in Q4.  The QB and big play factors, along with an elite defense, were also challenges when the Cardinals played Wheaton earlier this year.  Nobody in the Redbird community should be looking at anything beyond Saturday at this point.

[wally_wabash]

NCC fans have a nervous wait today. UWW did them no favors.the D3.com staff has them in the field by a hair. It could go the other way.  If WashU (7-3) gets back into the rankings then they are in for sure but that would be over two 2 loss teams.

Crazy to think Broc Rutter May have played his final game.

100% the smart thing for the North RAC to do would be to rank WashU and protect North Central.  There's no guarantee that the national committee wouldn't kick that back and say try again, but they should try.  I think it's clear that North Central and JCU aren't both getting in, so the RAC should do whatever they can to fortify one profile or another.   

I'm not sure though any 3 loss team is going to get through to the final rankings.

And this is exactly what has happened.  The bottom of the North rankings got muddled enough to make WashU viable, they get ranked, North Central gets a key piece of primary criteria that separates them from Susquehanna, and Bob's your uncle. 

[tf37]

NCC fans have a nervous wait today. UWW did them no favors.the D3.com staff has them in the field by a hair. It could go the other way.  If WashU (7-3) gets back into the rankings then they are in for sure but that would be over two 2 loss teams.

Crazy to think Broc Rutter May have played his final game.

100% the smart thing for the North RAC to do would be to rank WashU and protect North Central.  There's no guarantee that the national committee wouldn't kick that back and say try again, but they should try.  I think it's clear that North Central and JCU aren't both getting in, so the RAC should do whatever they can to fortify one profile or another.   

I'm not sure though any 3 loss team is going to get through to the final rankings.

And this is exactly what has happened.  The bottom of the North rankings got muddled enough to make WashU viable, they get ranked, North Central gets a key piece of primary criteria that separates them from Susquehanna, and Bob's your uncle.

It also made Wheaton vRRO 3-0, which was another plus in the hunt for the final #1 seed.  So kudos to the North RAC this year.

[wally_wabash]

NCC fans have a nervous wait today. UWW did them no favors.the D3.com staff has them in the field by a hair. It could go the other way.  If WashU (7-3) gets back into the rankings then they are in for sure but that would be over two 2 loss teams.

Crazy to think Broc Rutter May have played his final game.

100% the smart thing for the North RAC to do would be to rank WashU and protect North Central.  There's no guarantee that the national committee wouldn't kick that back and say try again, but they should try.  I think it's clear that North Central and JCU aren't both getting in, so the RAC should do whatever they can to fortify one profile or another.   

I'm not sure though any 3 loss team is going to get through to the final rankings.

And this is exactly what has happened.  The bottom of the North rankings got muddled enough to make WashU viable, they get ranked, North Central gets a key piece of primary criteria that separates them from Susquehanna, and Bob's your uncle.

It also made Wheaton vRRO 3-0, which was another plus in the hunt for the final #1 seed.  So kudos to the North RAC this year.

I don't think this was necessary for Wheaton to get the #1 seed.  When Whitewater fell, it was super easy to just shift that #1 seed down the road a bit.  It works with Wheaton's profile (with or without the WashU ranking) and it works geographically. 

The sticky issue was going to be, if Whitewater had won their game and earned that #1 seed, explaining why Salisbury got a #1 seed and not Wheaton.  I assume there would have been some hand waving there that would have been wholly unsatisfactory to the Wheaton crowd.  Probably rightfully so. 

[USee]

NCC fans have a nervous wait today. UWW did them no favors.the D3.com staff has them in the field by a hair. It could go the other way.  If WashU (7-3) gets back into the rankings then they are in for sure but that would be over two 2 loss teams.

Crazy to think Broc Rutter May have played his final game.

100% the smart thing for the North RAC to do would be to rank WashU and protect North Central.  There's no guarantee that the national committee wouldn't kick that back and say try again, but they should try.  I think it's clear that North Central and JCU aren't both getting in, so the RAC should do whatever they can to fortify one profile or another.   

I'm not sure though any 3 loss team is going to get through to the final rankings.

And this is exactly what has happened.  The bottom of the North rankings got muddled enough to make WashU viable, they get ranked, North Central gets a key piece of primary criteria that separates them from Susquehanna, and Bob's your uncle.

Does this mean the final RR are out? If so where do we view them?

[ncc_fan]

https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/final-regional-ranking

[USee]

https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/final-regional-ranking

I did look on the D3.com page but did not see this. Thanks!

Interesting stuff. Wabash losing in week 11 definitely helped NCC get into the field as it opened up a spot for WashU to get in and that RR win must have been the difference between them and Susquehanna (as well as UWW losing and making NCC's loss to N1 vs Susquehanna to S2).

Razor thin margins here.

[wally_wabash]

https://d3football.com/playoffs/2019/final-regional-ranking

I did look on the D3.com page but did not see this. Thanks!

Interesting stuff. Wabash losing in week 11 definitely helped NCC get into the field as it opened up a spot for WashU to get in and that RR win must have been the difference between them and Susquehanna (as well as UWW losing and making NCC's loss to N1 vs Susquehanna to S2).

Razor thin margins here.

Mount Union is N1, Wheaton is N2.