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79jaybird

Great to see both the Thunder and Cards still alive.  Couple of chimes-

A) A nice family oriented (kid friendly too) place is Barone's in Glen Ellyn.  Just down the road from McCully Field.  We frequent this place often.  It is known for their pizza but they have other good Italian dishes too. 

AndOne- You make some good points.  I have added some of my thoughts in response-

As I said, my predictions could well be as close to accurate as we are to the moon.
Here are the major factors that invaded my brain and influenced my NC/DV prediction.

1. DV has to travel some 800 miles. I believe that takes a toll. Even on well conditioned young guys. +3 points to NCC for home field advantage. Also, I sense that with that many miles involved, DV won't have a very large contingent of supportive fans. 
**During the regular season I would agree a cross country tour would affect the team.  However IMO,  you get this far in the tournament,  the players know how to play,  and turn it up  notch when needed.  Once they step on the field,  both sides will be ready.   Regarding fans,  yes,  80-85% will be pro NC.

2. The Cards are "hot" right now with a ton of mo propelling them.
  **IMO-  All the teams left standing are riding the adrenaline rush and ready.  Not sure this wavelength really factors into the equation.  If anything it make actually counter the positive because teams (i.e. MHB ) that have been there before, will settle down sooner.

3. QB may be the most important and game influencing position in all sports and NC has Broc Rutter.   

***Rutter has been great all year.  No doubt NC will need him to be a leader.   

4. If the NC staff was able to formulate a winning game plan vs MU, I sense they can do it vs. DV.
**I think every coaching staff is able to prepare a game plan vs. their opponent.  It boils down to the *players* executing those plans on the gameday.
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Mugsy

Quote from: USee on December 03, 2019, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: ncc_fan on December 03, 2019, 01:07:27 AM
What about the residential streets to the north/northeast of campus & south of the tracks?  We've been able to park within a few blocks of the stadium when the nearby lots are full.

There is plenty of parking near Wheaton Campus. The lots that fill up are literally next to the stadium. There will be no problem finding parking within a 10 minute walk (probably 5 minute) to the stadium. If you go to a restaurant in downtown Wheaton it's about a 10 minute walk to the stadium from there. And you NCC fans have the worst parking situation this side of Augie that I know of.

Since I live on the south side of Wheaton, I park on the street that runs parallel to the stadium on the opposite side of the tracks (south side of train tracks).  There is a walk way under the tracks and then 1/2 block walk to the stadium entrance.  Real simple.
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emma17

Quote from: AndOne on December 03, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
As I said, my predictions could well be as close to accurate as we are to the moon.
Here are the major factors that invaded my brain and influenced my NC/DV prediction.

1. DV has to travel some 800 miles. I believe that takes a toll. Even on well conditioned young guys. +3 points to NCC for home field advantage. Also, I sense that with that many miles involved, DV won't have a very large contingent of supportive fans.

2. The Cards are "hot" right now with a ton of mo propelling them.

3. QB may be the most important and game influencing position in all sports and NC has Broc Rutter.

4. If the NC staff was able to formulate a winning game plan vs MU, I sense they can do it vs. DV.

Regarding reason #4, with a score of 59-52, I think it can be debated whether any staff put together a winning game plan, at least defensively. Offensively, it was let the horses run.

shepherd

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Quote from: emma17 on December 03, 2019, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: AndOne on December 03, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
As I said, my predictions could well be as close to accurate as we are to the moon.
Here are the major factors that invaded my brain and influenced my NC/DV prediction.

1. DV has to travel some 800 miles. I believe that takes a toll. Even on well conditioned young guys. +3 points to NCC for home field advantage. Also, I sense that with that many miles involved, DV won't have a very large contingent of supportive fans.

2. The Cards are "hot" right now with a ton of mo propelling them.

3. QB may be the most important and game influencing position in all sports and NC has Broc Rutter.

4. If the NC staff was able to formulate a winning game plan vs MU, I sense they can do it vs. DV.

Regarding reason #4, with a score of 59-52, I think it can be debated whether any staff put together a winning game plan, at least defensively. Offensively, it was let the horses run.
If there letting horses play Wheaton should be allowed to use my new Rotti. ;D 

Pat Coleman

Quote from: emma17 on December 03, 2019, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: AndOne on December 03, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
As I said, my predictions could well be as close to accurate as we are to the moon.
Here are the major factors that invaded my brain and influenced my NC/DV prediction.

1. DV has to travel some 800 miles. I believe that takes a toll. Even on well conditioned young guys. +3 points to NCC for home field advantage. Also, I sense that with that many miles involved, DV won't have a very large contingent of supportive fans.

2. The Cards are "hot" right now with a ton of mo propelling them.

3. QB may be the most important and game influencing position in all sports and NC has Broc Rutter.

4. If the NC staff was able to formulate a winning game plan vs MU, I sense they can do it vs. DV.

Regarding reason #4, with a score of 59-52, I think it can be debated whether any staff put together a winning game plan, at least defensively. Offensively, it was let the horses run.

Only 14 points in the second half, though. Clearly not a winning defensive game plan to start the game, but an adjustment was made.
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79jaybird

Adjustments, turnovers, adrenaline,  all why IMO, teams that have been there before and played (even perhaps lost previous tilts) crucial games before have an edge over teams that don't have that same experience.
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Titan Q

Quote from: Bluejay9710 on November 24, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
I know a great QB transferring to IWU in January. He is a top level talent from a top west suburban high school. He currently is at another school and the only reason he is transferring is due to a major change he wanted long term and IWU offered the program and his current school did not. Top notch player, great kid, and I know his family who are great people. Not good for my blue jays but someone who will be leading IWU the next 4 years. Unfortunately I do not want to give names since he is not enrolled yet but it is confirmed he his transferring to IWU in January. You will be very pleased.

I have learned this is Joe Javorek (York HS), who was on the roster at D3 Monmouth this year but didn't play.  As I understand it, will have 4 years eligibility remaining at IWU.

I don't know anything about Javorek - I've heard he had some D2 offers out of HS.  Maybe Bluejay9710 can jump back in on what he knows of Javorek.

https://senior-year-www.hudl.com/profile/10185803/Joe-Javorek

https://monmouthscots.com/sports/football/roster/joe-javorek/13022

Augie6

Quote from: Titan Q on December 03, 2019, 04:06:11 PM
Quote from: Bluejay9710 on November 24, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
I know a great QB transferring to IWU in January. He is a top level talent from a top west suburban high school. He currently is at another school and the only reason he is transferring is due to a major change he wanted long term and IWU offered the program and his current school did not. Top notch player, great kid, and I know his family who are great people. Not good for my blue jays but someone who will be leading IWU the next 4 years. Unfortunately I do not want to give names since he is not enrolled yet but it is confirmed he his transferring to IWU in January. You will be very pleased.

I have learned this is Joe Javorek (York HS), who was on the roster at D3 Monmouth this year but didn't play.  As I understand it, will have 4 years eligibility remaining at IWU.

I don't know anything about Javorek - I've heard he had some D2 offers out of HS.  Maybe Bluejay9710 can jump back in on what he knows of Javorek.

https://senior-year-www.hudl.com/profile/10185803/Joe-Javorek

https://monmouthscots.com/sports/football/roster/joe-javorek/13022

Not sure about York being "a top west suburban high school" from a football perspective, so I'm curious about Bluejay9710's comment about "leading IWU for the next 4 years".  Seems to indicate he thinks Mr. Javorek will become the starter next year at IWU.  Big step up in competition going from the MWC to the CCIW, and based on the fact that he didn't really see the field at Monmouth, I'm not so sure I would be willing to proclaim him as the starter next year.  Don't recall hearing much about him his final two years of high school (plus York wasn't very good either of those years), so I would imagine some of the current QBs on the roster at IWU might take issue with that assumption. 
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thunder38

My biggest concern for North Central this week would really the emotional toll a win like that can take on you. North Central had the luxury of essentially taking two weeks to prepare for Mount Union and building everything to that game. Those kind of wars have their physical tolls as well, obviously, but accomplishing something as big as that win on Saturday can sometimes lead to an emotional hangover. It's just a natural reaction. I still think NCC should win by 20 points but my concern is if they're a little sloppy or not on top of the details early in this one, DelVal is good enough to make them pay.
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AndOne

I think Augie6 might be on to something here. In his senior year at York, Javorek played in 12 games. He attempted 147 passes, completing 81 for 924 yards, and a .551 percentage. He averaged only 77 yards passing per game while throwing 11 TD passes and 9 INTS which isn't a superior ratio.
As a runner, he ran 69 times for 134 yards, a paltry 1.9 yards per rush. Hardly eye popping statistics, and certainly nothing that would cause much concern either among QBs already on the IWU roster, or other potential QB recruits.

I sense most of the hype surrounding this young man ("a top level talent") has been generated by one or more of the recruiting services which we have seen a recent proliferation of both in football and basketball. They promise young athletes a huge amount of visibility, and in many cases likely scholarships, in exchange for big bucks. They tell the families and kids that they could never get as much visibility and money, either athletic or academic, without their help when in reality every good kid out there is known to many coaches/schools who are more than willing to both recruit the players and work with their respective financial aid departments to get the recruits as much money as they possibly can.
Incidentally, York is more of a "basketball school" than a "football school."

AndOne

Quote from: thunder38 on December 03, 2019, 04:44:25 PM
My biggest concern for North Central this week would really the emotional toll a win like that can take on you. North Central had the luxury of essentially taking two weeks to prepare for Mount Union and building everything to that game. Those kind of wars have their physical tolls as well, obviously, but accomplishing something as big as that win on Saturday can sometimes lead to an emotional hangover. It's just a natural reaction. I still think NCC should win by 20 points but my concern is if they're a little sloppy or not on top of the details early in this one, DelVal is good enough to make them pay.

Much of NCC's strike capability will be related to the readiness of their top RB who went out of the MU game with an injury. As of last night, I heard that there has been improvement but that he has not as yet been cleared to play Sat. Of course, with this being only Tues, 3 full days still remain for any further necessary improvement to be maximized.

79jaybird

The prowess in the WSS division has been Glenbard West.   Javorek was very good in HS.  Not sure if I'd give him all that Jazz just yet.  Until he suits up for the Titans,  it may be more of a "believe it when I see it"  approach.   ???
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AndOne

Quote from: Pat Coleman on December 03, 2019, 03:11:15 PM
Quote from: emma17 on December 03, 2019, 02:22:08 PM
Quote from: AndOne on December 03, 2019, 12:00:52 AM
As I said, my predictions could well be as close to accurate as we are to the moon.
Here are the major factors that invaded my brain and influenced my NC/DV prediction.

1. DV has to travel some 800 miles. I believe that takes a toll. Even on well conditioned young guys. +3 points to NCC for home field advantage. Also, I sense that with that many miles involved, DV won't have a very large contingent of supportive fans.

2. The Cards are "hot" right now with a ton of mo propelling them.

3. QB may be the most important and game influencing position in all sports and NC has Broc Rutter.

4. If the NC staff was able to formulate a winning game plan vs MU, I sense they can do it vs. DV.

Regarding reason #4, with a score of 59-52, I think it can be debated whether any staff put together a winning game plan, at least defensively. Offensively, it was let the horses run.

Only 14 points in the second half, though. Clearly not a winning defensive game plan to start the game, but an adjustment was made.

I think Pat makes an excellent point.
Often times the best game plans are those that evolve on the fly during the course of a game, changing and adapting to counter the opponent's (often previously unanticipated) moves. I believe an excellent example occurred when NCC called time before MU's last pass play. The coaching staff presented a plan that resulted both in pressuring the MU QB, and tightly covering the receivers to the point of intercepting the hurried heave.

AndOne

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Quote from: Mugsy on December 03, 2019, 01:59:36 PM
Quote from: USee on December 03, 2019, 10:41:36 AM
Quote from: ncc_fan on December 03, 2019, 01:07:27 AM
What about the residential streets to the north/northeast of campus & south of the tracks?  We've been able to park within a few blocks of the stadium when the nearby lots are full.

There is plenty of parking near Wheaton Campus. The lots that fill up are literally next to the stadium. There will be no problem finding parking within a 10 minute walk (probably 5 minute) to the stadium. If you go to a restaurant in downtown Wheaton it's about a 10 minute walk to the stadium from there. And you NCC fans have the worst parking situation this side of Augie that I know of.

Since I live on the south side of Wheaton, I park on the street that runs parallel to the stadium on the opposite side of the tracks (south side of train tracks).  There is a walk way under the tracks and then 1/2 block walk to the stadium entrance.  Real simple.

Right up there with E = mc2!  8-)
Brilliant, Mugsy.   ;D
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Bluejay9710

Quote from: Augie6 on December 03, 2019, 04:24:56 PM
Quote from: Titan Q on December 03, 2019, 04:06:11 PM
Quote from: Bluejay9710 on November 24, 2019, 08:15:38 PM
I know a great QB transferring to IWU in January. He is a top level talent from a top west suburban high school. He currently is at another school and the only reason he is transferring is due to a major change he wanted long term and IWU offered the program and his current school did not. Top notch player, great kid, and I know his family who are great people. Not good for my blue jays but someone who will be leading IWU the next 4 years. Unfortunately I do not want to give names since he is not enrolled yet but it is confirmed he his transferring to IWU in January. You will be very pleased.

I have learned this is Joe Javorek (York HS), who was on the roster at D3 Monmouth this year but didn't play.  As I understand it, will have 4 years eligibility remaining at IWU.

I don't know anything about Javorek - I've heard he had some D2 offers out of HS.  Maybe Bluejay9710 can jump back in on what he knows of Javorek.

https://senior-year-www.hudl.com/profile/10185803/Joe-Javorek

https://monmouthscots.com/sports/football/roster/joe-javorek/13022

Not sure about York being "a top west suburban high school" from a football perspective, so I'm curious about Bluejay9710's comment about "leading IWU for the next 4 years".  Seems to indicate he thinks Mr. Javorek will become the starter next year at IWU.  Big step up in competition going from the MWC to the CCIW, and based on the fact that he didn't really see the field at Monmouth, I'm not so sure I would be willing to proclaim him as the starter next year.  Don't recall hearing much about him his final two years of high school (plus York wasn't very good either of those years), so I would imagine some of the current QBs on the roster at IWU might take issue with that assumption.

I am not sure about the current roster on IWU what I can tell you that he is a top level kid and athlete. He was being looked at from many lower level D1 And D2 schools and also had some walk on opportunities. Ran into a couple nagging injuries his sr year which slowed that process down. As a former college coach I can tell you he has exceptional skill level. He can make all throws, great size, and a great leader and overall kid. Prior to his sr year at QB farm I believe was rated as a true top level prospect. Sure like any young player he will need to learn the IWU offense and playing in the cciw. That being said I truly believe you will be in great hands. It will be fun to watch.

Congrats to NC and Wheaton!!