FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Ralph Turner]

At 43 minutes in podcast 246 Pat Coleman put Mount Union and North Park in the same sentence.

Gregory Sager might put them in another sentence, teams that have won the most National Championships, one in Football,the other in Hoops!

  Go listen!

[bluenote]

I'm thinking both North Central and Wheaton are both stellar teams! WOW What a tossup!

[Gregory Sager]

At 43 minutes in podcast 246 Pat Coleman put Mount Union and North Park in the same sentence.

Gregory Sager might put them in another sentence, teams that have won the most National Championships, one in Football,the other in Hoops!

  Go listen!

I'm almost afraid to do so.

[blue_jays]

Like Coach Eash, a 100% Class Act!

Haha!  Perfect!  Well done, GS!

Perfect indeed. I'm sure Norm is classy with his interactions with his people. But if you're not in the IWU camp, we've got a whole career of evidence that goes against that.

[USee]

There is no denying Eash has been tremendously successful as IWU's coach and they are a regular top 25 program in large part due to his leadership. There are also many, many instances of Norm being "Norm" that go into what has been alluded to here. And in the words of a famous athlete speaking in reference to what everyone else was saying "everyone else is not wrong".

[mdrem7]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

[USee]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

[USee]

Should the Thunder win Saturday, Luke Anthony will have the privilege of starting on 2 Wheaton teams that made the national final four in the same calendar year. Pretty cool.

[HScoach]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

I would also offer that it depends a lot on whether the better or lesser team won the 1st meeting, or if both teams are even.  The only scenario where I don't want to see a previous opponent is if I'm the winner of the first game but I'm clearly the lesser team.  I.E, we stole a victory the first time.  In that case, I'm scared to death attempting to win with smoke and mirrors again.  Ala LSU against Alabama in the BCS years ago.  Anyone who watched those teams throughout the season and during their 9-6 win in the regular season knew LSU wasn't as talented as Alabama. 

If the teams are even, win or lose the first time, I'm good with the rematch.  Respectful of the opponent, but not scared of being exposed.

If I'm the better team and won the first game, then I'm good.

If I'm the better team but lost the first game, then I'm definitely good with the rematch.

[CardinalAlum]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

[robertgoulet]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

[WashedUpCard]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

[shepherd]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

Wheaton plays St Johns sat. One game at a time. You win you move on to the next opponent.  That's it nothing more. Always have your hands full with the opponent your playing. 

[Captainred81]

I totally agree, no offense, but who cares about the bell when you're playing for the Walnut and Bronze. 

I think that Del Val. is a similar team to Wheaton (although not quite as good), and they have the tools on defense to slow down that passing attack.  Mount hardly put any pressure on Rutter and he was able to pick them apart.  Del. Val has some great talent on the D-Line.  Wheaton sacked Rutter 7 times and held them 21 points.  If Del Val can repeat that, they have a great shot. 

I think NCC will beat Del Val, probably by 2 scores, and then against Muhlenberg (beats Salisbury) I like the Mules.  They were close last year, and they have much more well rounded team this year.  In the past, they have been able to contain Johns Hopkins, and did well against Mount last year.  I think, especially if it's in PA (which it should be) that Mules beat NCC. 

I think Wheaton is going to beat St. Johns using a similar game plan to the one they used against NCC.  However, I UMHB is too string defensively, and good enough offensively to be Wheaton.  I like UMHB over UWW this week by 3 and then beat Wheaton next week by 3. 

Fearless Forecast UMHB vs. Muhlenberg in the Stagg. Anyway we shake this out, we are guaranteed at least one team in the Stagg Bowl will not be wearing PURPLE, is that right? Pat?

[WashedUpCard]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

Wheaton plays St Johns sat. One game at a time. You win you move on to the next opponent.  That's it nothing more. Always have your hands full with the opponent your playing.

Sadly, whatever I do will have ZERO impact on the outcome of the game on Saturday.  So I have the luxury of looking ahead.