FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[CardinalAlum]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

Wheaton plays St Johns sat. One game at a time. You win you move on to the next opponent.  That's it nothing more. Always have your hands full with the opponent your playing.

Sadly, whatever I do will have ZERO impact on the outcome of the game on Saturday.  So I have the luxury of looking ahead.

So it's just like when you played?    

[WashedUpCard]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

Wheaton plays St Johns sat. One game at a time. You win you move on to the next opponent.  That's it nothing more. Always have your hands full with the opponent your playing.

Sadly, whatever I do will have ZERO impact on the outcome of the game on Saturday.  So I have the luxury of looking ahead.

So it's just like when you played?   

You would know, you were sitting on the bench next to me.

[shepherd]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

Wheaton plays St Johns sat. One game at a time. You win you move on to the next opponent.  That's it nothing more. Always have your hands full with the opponent your playing.

Sadly, whatever I do will have ZERO impact on the outcome of the game on Saturday.  So I have the luxury of looking ahead.

So it's just like when you played?   

You would know, you were sitting on the bench next to me.

When I played real option football at Tinley Park in the 70's we learned many things that are advantageous to football and life in general. 
1. Never look ahead.  While no one can keep this 100% during the important things this will serve a person well.
2. Always give your best even and especially against the weakest opponent.  Half effort can become a habit.  On the field fight for one more yard, inch, blade of grass until the whistle blows.
3. keep positive it will become catchy.  The way I talk to my teammates effects the whole team.  Especially during a game.  Nearly every time I said or had said to me "I'm doing this and this you will be able to do that that's what happened eventually.  That was to a running back as an o lineman or on defense as a tackle or linebacker.
These things can be used in life too.
If I look ahead and start talking this and that especially if it is something very interesting it can plant a seed which can plant another seed on and on.   That can have disastrous consequences in life when you think you have an easy path overlook something important with your present endeavor.

[OzJohnnie]

When I played real option football at Tinley Park in the 70's we learned many things that are advantageous to football and life in general. 
1. Never look ahead.  While no one can keep this 100% during the important things this will serve a person well.
2. Always give your best even and especially against the weakest opponent.  Half effort can become a habit.  On the field fight for one more yard, inch, blade of grass until the whistle blows.
3. keep positive it will become catchy.  The way I talk to my teammates effects the whole team.  Especially during a game.  Nearly every time I said or had said to me "I'm doing this and this you will be able to do that that's what happened eventually.  That was to a running back as an o lineman or on defense as a tackle or linebacker.
These things can be used in life too.
If I look ahead and start talking this and that especially if it is something very interesting it can plant a seed which can plant another seed on and on.   That can have disastrous consequences in life when you think you have an easy path overlook something important with your present endeavor.

4.  Don't mix your whites and your colours or your t-shirts will all come out of the wash pink.

[WashedUpCard]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

Wheaton plays St Johns sat. One game at a time. You win you move on to the next opponent.  That's it nothing more. Always have your hands full with the opponent your playing.

Sadly, whatever I do will have ZERO impact on the outcome of the game on Saturday.  So I have the luxury of looking ahead.

So it's just like when you played?   

You would know, you were sitting on the bench next to me.

When I played real option football at Tinley Park in the 70's we learned many things that are advantageous to football and life in general. 
1. Never look ahead.  While no one can keep this 100% during the important things this will serve a person well.
2. Always give your best even and especially against the weakest opponent.  Half effort can become a habit.  On the field fight for one more yard, inch, blade of grass until the whistle blows.
3. keep positive it will become catchy.  The way I talk to my teammates effects the whole team.  Especially during a game.  Nearly every time I said or had said to me "I'm doing this and this you will be able to do that that's what happened eventually.  That was to a running back as an o lineman or on defense as a tackle or linebacker.
These things can be used in life too.
If I look ahead and start talking this and that especially if it is something very interesting it can plant a seed which can plant another seed on and on.   That can have disastrous consequences in life when you think you have an easy path overlook something important with your present endeavor.

I completely agree that those are excellent words to live by - in life and in football!  But we are all just spectators here.  I don't take any of this too seriously.

I think it is fair to say that many of us are excited by how our teams have performed this season and that we are still in the "hunt".  I see no harm in talking about all the hypothetical situations that could unfold in the next few weeks.  What's the worst that could happen?  Be disappointed if our team loses?  I can deal with that....

[shepherd]

When I played real option football at Tinley Park in the 70's we learned many things that are advantageous to football and life in general. 
1. Never look ahead.  While no one can keep this 100% during the important things this will serve a person well.
2. Always give your best even and especially against the weakest opponent.  Half effort can become a habit.  On the field fight for one more yard, inch, blade of grass until the whistle blows.
3. keep positive it will become catchy.  The way I talk to my teammates effects the whole team.  Especially during a game.  Nearly every time I said or had said to me "I'm doing this and this you will be able to do that that's what happened eventually.  That was to a running back as an o lineman or on defense as a tackle or linebacker.
These things can be used in life too.
If I look ahead and start talking this and that especially if it is something very interesting it can plant a seed which can plant another seed on and on.   That can have disastrous consequences in life when you think you have an easy path overlook something important with your present endeavor.

4.  Don't mix your whites and your colours or your t-shirts will all come out of the wash pink.

That old red and Gold looked awesome.

[thunderdog]

Things continue to heat up between MIAC vs CCIW... the atmosphere in McCully is going to be ELECTRIC!
Can't wait!!!

[tf37]

When I played real option football at Tinley Park in the 70's we learned many things that are advantageous to football and life in general. 
1. Never look ahead.  While no one can keep this 100% during the important things this will serve a person well.
2. Always give your best even and especially against the weakest opponent.  Half effort can become a habit.  On the field fight for one more yard, inch, blade of grass until the whistle blows.
3. keep positive it will become catchy.  The way I talk to my teammates effects the whole team.  Especially during a game.  Nearly every time I said or had said to me "I'm doing this and this you will be able to do that that's what happened eventually.  That was to a running back as an o lineman or on defense as a tackle or linebacker.
These things can be used in life too.
If I look ahead and start talking this and that especially if it is something very interesting it can plant a seed which can plant another seed on and on.   That can have disastrous consequences in life when you think you have an easy path overlook something important with your present endeavor.

4.  Don't mix your whites and your colours or your t-shirts will all come out of the wash pink.

Not every school produces pink t-shirts. 

[Mugsy]

Things continue to heat up between MIAC vs CCIW... the atmosphere in McCully is going to be ELECTRIC!
Can't wait!!!

I'm going to drive like a maniac to see the 2nd half in person.  My son has a high school swim meet in the morning - family first.

[thunderdog]

Things continue to heat up between MIAC vs CCIW... the atmosphere in McCully is going to be ELECTRIC!
Can't wait!!!

I'm going to drive like a maniac to see the 2nd half in person.  My son has a high school swim meet in the morning - family first.

No doubt Mugsy.

Safe travels... see you at the game (eventually)

[washdupcard]

Real question: If you are Wheaton, would you even want to see North Central again in the Stagg Bowl? On one hand, you've beaten them once already, and are 4-1 against Rutter as the starting QB. But on the other, parallels to 2017, where NCC beat Wheaton (Rutter's only win over the Thunder) and then the Thunder came back and beat them the next time around. They do say it's hard to beat a good team twice. Ideally for Wheaton, someone else would knock off the Cardinals as they take care of business on their end. Also, if it did end up with the two of them in the Stagg, does Swider put the Bell on the line? I recall Thorne would not put it up for the playoff game. Thoughts?

I for one would be thrilled to play NCC again because that means we won the next 2 and made it to the Stagg. There is no statistical validity to the wives tale of beating a good team twice. It stems from the idea if you have a 50% chance to beat a team and play them twice the expected result is 1-1. But if you flip a coin 2x you could easily get 2 heads as often as you get 2 tails. So if these two play again, the percentages will be what they are and the first matchup has nothing to do with it, statistically speaking. Probably a pickem game if it happens

I wouldn't put the Bell up. Its a regular season game trophy. They lost, we won. See you in Naperville next year.

Completely agree on the Bell!  We can take it back at home next year!      

I'll gladly let them keep the Bell and we will take the Stagg trophy this year. Deal? Deal.

100%

Wheaton plays St Johns sat. One game at a time. You win you move on to the next opponent.  That's it nothing more. Always have your hands full with the opponent your playing.

Sadly, whatever I do will have ZERO impact on the outcome of the game on Saturday.  So I have the luxury of looking ahead.

So it's just like when you played?   

You would know, you were sitting on the bench next to me.

When I played real option football at Tinley Park in the 70's we learned many things that are advantageous to football and life in general. 
1. Never look ahead.  While no one can keep this 100% during the important things this will serve a person well.
2. Always give your best even and especially against the weakest opponent.  Half effort can become a habit.  On the field fight for one more yard, inch, blade of grass until the whistle blows.
3. keep positive it will become catchy.  The way I talk to my teammates effects the whole team.  Especially during a game.  Nearly every time I said or had said to me "I'm doing this and this you will be able to do that that's what happened eventually.  That was to a running back as an o lineman or on defense as a tackle or linebacker.
These things can be used in life too.
If I look ahead and start talking this and that especially if it is something very interesting it can plant a seed which can plant another seed on and on.   That can have disastrous consequences in life when you think you have an easy path overlook something important with your present endeavor.

I completely agree that those are excellent words to live by - in life and in football!  But we are all just spectators here.  I don't take any of this too seriously.

I think it is fair to say that many of us are excited by how our teams have performed this season and that we are still in the "hunt".  I see no harm in talking about all the hypothetical situations that could unfold in the next few weeks.  What's the worst that could happen?  Be disappointed if our team loses?  I can deal with that....

There ain't enough room for two washdupcards in this town. Impostoré!!

[OzJohnnie]

When I played real option football at Tinley Park in the 70's we learned many things that are advantageous to football and life in general. 
1. Never look ahead.  While no one can keep this 100% during the important things this will serve a person well.
2. Always give your best even and especially against the weakest opponent.  Half effort can become a habit.  On the field fight for one more yard, inch, blade of grass until the whistle blows.
3. keep positive it will become catchy.  The way I talk to my teammates effects the whole team.  Especially during a game.  Nearly every time I said or had said to me "I'm doing this and this you will be able to do that that's what happened eventually.  That was to a running back as an o lineman or on defense as a tackle or linebacker.
These things can be used in life too.
If I look ahead and start talking this and that especially if it is something very interesting it can plant a seed which can plant another seed on and on.   That can have disastrous consequences in life when you think you have an easy path overlook something important with your present endeavor.

4.  Don't mix your whites and your colours or your t-shirts will all come out of the wash pink.

Not every school produces pink t-shirts. 

Just the winners . .

[Not My Nachos]

IS THE FOLLOWING AN INITIATION JOKE FOR THIS THREAD?  IS THIS WHAT THIS BOARD IS ABOUT?

I get this unsolicited crap message from a guy on this board. Now, I guess I get thrown off as he states?   

THE FOLLOWING WAS SENT TO ME:
Quote from: XXXXXX on Today at 08:09:32 pm
If you were under the impression that Norm Esch is a "class act" you were sold a bill of (defective) goods. He is generally loathed by the other coaching staffs and fans of all the other conference teams.
After IWU was taken apart 69-14 by NCC Esch said "I didn't think they were 69-14 better." He never gives any other teams credit. You can choose not to believe this but if you don't, check out the comments by several fans of several different conference teams on pages 2583-2584.
Not sure what led you to believe he is high class, but that impression is not shared by many outside of Bloomington.

Additionally, since you're new to the board you might not know it's against the terms of service to post any info that is told to you in a private message from any other poster without their permission. Doing so will get you banned from posting.

Good luck to your son at IWU.

MY REPLY:
Are you joking with this message?  Seriously....
Read what you wrote.  Guess what, Coach Eash was right.  But you take that as not being classy?  Should Coach Eash have built a shrine for Thorne?

Getting banned from having idiots message me with crap like this would be a blessing.  What a cowardly way to talk about someone.

I'll be in the visitors stands Saturday with my son...come say Hi.
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[USee]

Which visitor stands? There are 2 games in the area Saturday. And you should sit on the home side at either one.

I don't think its illegal to share PM contents  or I know about 50 posters who should be ejected.

[CardinalAlum]

Things continue to heat up between MIAC vs CCIW... the atmosphere in McCully is going to be ELECTRIC!
Can't wait!!!

I'm going to drive like a maniac to see the 2nd half in person.  My son has a high school swim meet in the morning - family first.

I say you empty the pool the night before!