FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[mr_b]

Just saw NP up 32-3 in the 3rd vs Elmhurst.

Is this the nail in the coffin for the BlueJays staff?

Now it's 45-3 with about five minutes left. 

[mr_b]

Just saw NP up 32-3 in the 3rd vs Elmhurst.

Is this the nail in the coffin for the BlueJays staff?

Now it's 45-3 with about five minutes left.

That turns out to be the final score.  The Vikings move to 2-5.

[Gregory Sager]

North Park 45
Elmhurst 3

This is NPU's biggest margin of victory in a CCIW game since the Vikings beat Elmhurst by a score of 44-0 back in 1970.

[D3FLETCH]

Just saw NP up 32-3 in the 3rd vs Elmhurst.

Is this the nail in the coffin for the BlueJays staff?

Now it's 45-3 with about five minutes left.

That turns out to be the final score.  The Vikings move to 2-5.

Very good building year for NP. Lots to look forward to in 2022

[BIG BLUE BEN]

HansenRatings has the following for this weekend:

https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1KNIFuxVLu4y0s-1ggD-WASCC4RXUEao-qkWqOYfiEOM/edit#gid=1727317062

IWU @ NCC -51.2
Elmhurst @ NPU -7.4
WashU @ Millikin +19.2
Carthage @ Wheaton -31.2
Carroll @ Augie -3.5

Mark my words. Wash U is walking into a bar fight, they just dont know it yet. Millikin will play lose, they have nothing to lose. On top of that they should be getting a couple starters back from injuries and if Wash U has one weakness its the run game. Millikin's D-line matches up really well with Wash U and I think Millikin forces some turnovers and creates some tackles for loss. If Wash U gets Millikin in alot of 3rd and longs then thats when their D is at their best, rushing the pass. The longer Millikin keeps it close Saturday, the more I would turn into that one. Millikin is an up and down team, they could score 30 tonight or 0. But I like to think that they will play their most complete game and put up some points. Millikin did hold Wesleyan to 14 points and may have started to figure some thing out on Defense. Hoping for a nice home crowd, would go as far as a guantee that Milikin covers the +19 and with that said, I think they punch Wash U in the mouth and win 28-27. "I believe we can win" and Im going out on a limb bc Wash U is a very sound solid team, however, I guess I just believe when Millikin is at their peak (which has been sporatic to say the least) can put up yards against anybody. Wash is a better team on paper but if Millikin plays their A+ game and Wash U is at all hesistant, then there going to be dancing in Decatur tonight.

Go Big Blue!!!

I think these are again pretty accurate. Wash U still would get a little more love from me (at least 3 TD spread), but picking Augie and NP at home is solid. I am hoping (maybe beyond hope) that the Titans don't lose by more than 7 TDs! (But I'm sure that NCC is looking to get that number)

[Gregory Sager]

Just saw NP up 32-3 in the 3rd vs Elmhurst.

Is this the nail in the coffin for the BlueJays staff?

Now it's 45-3 with about five minutes left.

That turns out to be the final score.  The Vikings move to 2-5.

Very good building year for NP. Lots to look forward to in 2022r

NPU is not looking forward to next year. NPU is looking forward to next week. Saturday's game at Illinois Wesleyan is very winnable.

[kiko]

Today:

Carroll 29, Augustana 26 in Rock Island
North Park 45, Elmhurst 3  in Chicago

Tonight:

Carthage at Wheaton
Illinois Wesleyan at North Central
Washington U at Millikin

[robertgoulet]

North Park 45
Elmhurst 3

This is NPU's biggest margin of victory in a CCIW game since the Vikings beat Elmhurst by a score of 44-0 back in 1970.

What a world!

[Gregory Sager]

IWU has not consistently recruited against NCC since DeGeorge was HC for Cardinals. I am sure a few kids over the years have chosen the Titans over the Cardinals but most current NCC recruits would not even consider talking to a D3 school. IWU is closer to Elmhurst and North Park than it is to competing with North Central. I think IWU should consider joining the NCAC. They would consistently finish top 2-3 and have a good chance to compete for a conference championship.

Sure. Abandon a conference in which every one of your fellow schools is within 3 1/2 hours distance, and most are within 2 1/2, so that you can join a conference that has two schools within the 2 to 2 1/2 hour driving range, another school that's about five hours away, and in which everybody else is 6-7 hours away. That would make tremendous sense.

Well if we are trying to save nickels on travel they could attempt to join the NACC or HCAC. Maybe Norm can run a bake sale/push up contest. I think the NCAC  aligns better academically.

The conference you're looking for in terms of both proximity and academic cachet is the MWC, not the NCAC.

Still, I can't help but enjoy the mental picture of Norm pulling sheets of cookies out of the oven or doing push-ups in the Tucci Stadium parking lot in order to raise funds to cover the IWU bus trips to Lawrence or Ripon.

MWC would definitely make the most sense. I don't think they would take them.

What makes you think that the NCAC is any more likely to "take" Illinois Wesleyan than the MWC?

I'm always amused at the idea that schools can simply just go to a different conference as if every collegiate athletic conference has in/out privileges like your favorite hotel parking garage.

Me, too -- especially when the poster ups the ante by suggesting that a school can simply just go to a different conference that consists almost entirely of teams located six hours' driving distance from the school in question.

And that a school like Illinois Wesleyan could "compete for a conference championship" elsewhere.  The Titans win... a fair number of conference championships in an array of different sports right where they are!  Football is not the straw that stirs the drink in D3 to the same extent that it is in other, lesser NCAA divisions.

This needs to be stated more often. I've noticed that a lot of people who frequent the football boards are football-specific people who may not be familiar with the broader sweep of D3 athletics in general. As you said, just because football pays the bills and thus calls the shots at the D1 level doesn't mean that the same thing holds true in D3 ... and, in fact, with very, very few possible exceptions, it doesn't hold true in D3 at all.

I am sure at North Park football does not call the shots in the athletics department. It does not mean that is the standard or best practice.

It has absolutely nothing to do with NPU per se. It is standard practice for football not to dictate policy at most D3 schools. I've been around D3 for 40 years, and I've talked to lots of different athletic department personnel from lots of different D3 schools, and I've never gotten the sense that when the football coach says "Jump!", the AD (or the president) says "How high?"

The reason why is obvious. Football does not make money at this level. Football does not finance the rest of the athletic department at D3 schools. Nor is it the public face of the school the way that it is in D1. It therefore doesn't have the power to throw its weight around the way that it does in D1.

[WUPHF]

North Central is on track for the lowest scoring win of the day. What a day...

[robertgoulet]

That changed quickly in the 2nd half.

[lmitzel]

That changed quickly in the 2nd half.

But is NCC really 48 points better than IWU? [/norm]

[robertgoulet]

That changed quickly in the 2nd half.

But is NCC really 48 points better than IWU? [/norm]

I'd argue more than 48!

[kiko]

Today:

Carroll 29, Augustana 26 in Rock Island
North Park 45, Elmhurst 3 in Chicago

Tonight:

Carthage at Wheaton
Illinois Wesleyan at North Central
Washington U at Millikin

Updated with all games complete...

Today:

Carroll 29, Augustana 26 in Rock Island
North Park 45, Elmhurst 3 in Chicago

Tonight:

Wheaton 69, Carthage 20 at McCulley
North Central 55, Illinois Wesleyan 7 in Naperville
Washington U 55, Millikin 13 in Decatur

[blue_jays]

That changed quickly in the 2nd half.

But is NCC really 48 points better than IWU? [/norm]

I just wanna see how Norm will spin this in the Pantagraph.