FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[WUPHF]

I highly doubt it was travel related.

I am going to stick with competition related until proven otherwise.

Besides, Washington University probably would have subsidized travel for members schools and maybe they already were.  Travel is going to be more expensive for the Bears if they are unaffiliated. 

And they will not be able to rely on games against the other UAA schools that sponsor football for 3-4 games as they did last time.

[CardinalAlum]

Lehnen doesn't qualify?

As much as I love Lehnen I don't think I'd consider him a QB game breaker like you would have Boyes or Rutter simply because I think you can scheme against (keep him in the pocket and make him go through his reads and use his arm) him where you can't really with those other two.

Couldn't disagree more......Luke is as special of a QB as we have had in that position in school history. Not the thrower Broc was but Broc wasn't the runner Luke is. As a D coordinator, Luke is the piece you can't prepare for. His ability to scramble or take a QB sweep or draw is incredible. His speed is next level. Our stable of RB's are special.  Maples and Pryor are special and difference makers. My .02.

[Gregory Sager]

When traveling for CCIW competition, which teams use hotels?  I'd imagine Carthage at Wash U.

I can only imagine that, despite the quality of the program, the distances and the travel costs associated with traveling to St. Louis were a big factor in their being dropped. Ironic because that was a major reason Wash U had for joining.

On at least one occasion during the Conway era North Park's football team stayed at a hotel in Normal the night before a game at Illinois Wesleyan. I was still calling road games at the time for NPU --we only do home games now, out of fairness to the other fall sports -- and I came down and joined the Vikings for breakfast at their hotel. And I stayed with the Vikings in a hotel in St. Louis the night before a game at Wash U, also during the Conway era.

Those days are long gone. North Park football only does day-of-game travel now, so any future two-year contracts for non-conference games will only be signed with schools within a five-hour radius of the NPU campus.

As to your second paragraph, I can tell you for a fact that Wash U wasn't dropped from the league because of distance.

I highly doubt it was travel related.

I am going to stick with competition related until proven otherwise.

Not really that, either. PM me if you're interested, but i'd rather keep it off the board.

[Jbothe]

This was a long time ago but Augustana only got a hotel for the Wisconsin team that they played on the road that respective year.  Carthage or Carroll.

Holiday Inn in Kenosha.

Beautiful Leilani Inn in Waukesha.

Those were the only games that we actually ate in a cafeteria after a game and didn't get the sack lunch.

[CarollFan]

WashU has a $11.5 BILLION endowment? Wow that's big time $$$$.

https://endowment.wustl.edu/about/endowment/

[CarollFan]

Games tomorrow.
Spreads courtesy of Logan Hansen. https://hansenratings.github.io/

NCC -62.5 @ Carthage
Augie @ Wheaton -27.7
IWU -24.5 @ Elmhurst
Millikin @ NPU -19.5
Carroll @ WashU -12.8

Augie @ Wheaton most likely game of the week. Night game.
We gave WashU a little scare in St. Louis last year. Getting down to their 2 with 4:45 left and the score WashU 28-23. They stuffed us at the goal line on 4th and 2. We are 0-5 against them.
If Millikin wants to win 4 or 5 games like Big Blue Ben mentioned pre season then that has to be against Elmhurst, Carthage, IWU, NPU or Carroll.
Carthage I feel your pain, we've been there multiple times.
Elmhurst all I can say is get ready for those cowbells

[robertgoulet]

Games tomorrow.
Spreads courtesy of Logan Hansen. https://hansenratings.github.io/

NCC -62.5 @ Carthage
Augie @ Wheaton -27.7
IWU -24.5 @ Elmhurst
Millikin @ NP -19.5
Carroll @ WashU -12.8

Augie @ Wheaton most likely game of the week. Night game.
We gave WashU a little scare in St. Louis last year. Getting down to their 2 with 4:45 left and the score WashU 28-23. They stuffed us at the goal line on 4th and 2. We are 0-5 against them.
If Millikin wants to win 4 or 5 games like Big Blue Ben mentioned pre season then that has to be against Elmhurst, Carthage, IWU, NP or Carroll.
Carthage I feel your pain, we've been there multiple times.
Elmhurst all I can say is get ready for those cowbells

Boy those spreads seem large. I'd be tempted to take the under on all of them.

[CarollFan]

Games tomorrow.
Spreads courtesy of Logan Hansen. https://hansenratings.github.io/

NCC -62.5 @ Carthage
Augie @ Wheaton -27.7
IWU -24.5 @ Elmhurst
Millikin @ NP -19.5
Carroll @ WashU -12.8

Augie @ Wheaton most likely game of the week. Night game.
We gave WashU a little scare in St. Louis last year. Getting down to their 2 with 4:45 left and the score WashU 28-23. They stuffed us at the goal line on 4th and 2. We are 0-5 against them.
If Millikin wants to win 4 or 5 games like Big Blue Ben mentioned pre season then that has to be against Elmhurst, Carthage, IWU, NP or Carroll.
Carthage I feel your pain, we've been there multiple times.
Elmhurst all I can say is get ready for those cowbells

Boy those spreads seem large. I'd be tempted to take the under on all of them.

I agree. But whatever you guys do, don't go after Logan. He has his hands full with the NPI civil war going on...

[CarollFan]

The 3rd division...the butthurt comment
You put that together quick...

https://x.com/The3rd_Division/status/1837270261034299670?t=_gVdj0uJxtoYL8zrIn-Zyw&s=19

[CarollFan]

I think the over hit on all 3 afternoon games.

NCC 63 Carthage 0
NPU 44 Millikin 0
WashU 35 Carroll 7

The WashU Carroll game came down to Carroll's offensive issues.
The offense got nothing going until 4rth Q.
After WashU scored a TD in 1rst Q the next 3 WashU TD's were off Carroll turnovers.
Carroll snapped the ball over the QB's head multiple times and then on a punt WashU recovered a bad snap at the Carroll 14 yd line. In the 2nd Q Carroll fumbled a hand off WashU recovered at the Carroll 32 yd line. In the 3rd Q Carroll threw a pick 6 to make it   28-0.
Carroll's starting QB got pulled after the pick 6 with a final stat line of
1 for 18 16 passing yards, 1 INT.
After WashU fumble in 4rth Q Carroll's backup led them to their only TD.

Final stats.

https://washubears.com/sidearmstats/Football/summary

Not sure what this means for their QB situation. They have Wheaton next.

[markerickson]

North Park dominated the Big Blue on both sides of the ball to earn an easy 44-0 victory at home.

Time for a HAKA!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lypGYAfLtlo  (I stood 10 yards south of the camera footage)

[Gregory Sager]

NPU cut down on the penalties and executed well in all three phases of the game. Millikin did its part in making it look easy, as the Big Blue are gonna be seriously overmatched most weeks in CCIW play yet again. This was NPU's highest score against a CCIW opponent in three seasons, dating back to the 45-3 win over Elmhurst in 2021, and, thanks to the fourth-quarter safety scored by the NPU second-string defense, it's the biggest winning margin that the Vikings have achieved against a CCIW opponent going all the way back to 1968 and the infamous 104-32 win over North Central.

It was nice to be able to see North Park put in the backups in the third quarter and let the starters rest for most of the second half on a hot day. Over the years one gets used to seeing NPU have to play out the game against the other team's backups with the Vikings on the wrong end of a blowout, and you realize how valuable it is to have not just the luxury of resting your starters and keeping them injury-free but of getting your backups snaps as well.

[Gregory Sager]

Another all-blowout day in the CCIW:

North Central 63, Carthage 0
North Park 44, Millikin 0
Wash U 35, Carroll 7
Wheaton 42, Augustana 3
Illinois Wesleyan 55, Elmhurst 7

[robertgoulet]

Imagine saying the spreads looked a bit large. Couldn't be me.

[Gregory Sager]

Time for a HAKA!  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lypGYAfLtlo  (I stood 10 yards south of the camera footage)

Man, I miss the haka.

I guess that it was inevitable that the haka would go the way of the dodo and the passenger pigeon once NPU stopped recruiting in Samoa, but it was not only a great way to get the team (and the crowd) stoked, it was a singular distinctive for the NPU football program.