FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[wheatie barefooter]

Also, Alma's eighth win is not yet included.

[CarollFan]

I don't see any results not yet in........

i think they incorrectly have trinity texas as 7-3 when they should be 8-2? unless I'm reading it wrong

At the end of the day, the NCAA NPI calculations are the official ones. Yes that Trinity (Texas) doesn't look right

[USee]

You are right....those will cascade through other numbers...have to wait it out

[NCC2010]

I don't see any results not yet in........

i think they incorrectly have trinity texas as 7-3 when they should be 8-2? unless I'm reading it wrong

At the end of the day, the NCAA NPI calculations are the official ones. Yes that Trinity (Texas) doesn't look right

ya at the moment they also have all 3 PAC teams counting in Pool C.  going to give it a few hours for them to get it dialed in as i assume they are rushing knowing a lot of people are anixously awaiting the projected #s

[CarollFan]

They fixed Trinity (Texas) and in their latest calc that moved Trinity in and pushed Wheaton out.

[CarollFan]

There is still at least one game going on out West. Pacific Lutheran vs. Puget Sound. They got to wait for that game to finish to finish up calcs for teams in NWC that would effect.

[Gregory Sager]

I turned off the debacle in the western suburbs at halftime, as it was time to watch the North Park men's soccer team play in their D3 tournament game up in Minnesota. (I did keep a tab open on live stats in order to see if Matt Eck broke the NPU season passing yards record set by T.D. Conway in 2014, which he did.) If I had turned it off in anger or disgust, though, I could've done that long before halftime. It was pretty apparent much earlier that this was going to be a rout.

Wheaton played like a team on a mission. They made so few mistakes in that first half you could count them on your hand, with fingers left over. Above and beyond that, though, it's blindingly obvious that Wheaton football's just on a completely different level than North Park football. There's the top three teams -- although North Central's clearly on its own tier -- then there's a yawning chasm, then there's the rest of the league (non-Decatur division), then there's Millikin.

I'm not going to let today's disaster erase the plaudits for this season that the Park richly deserves. The Vikings may not have achieved much by the standards of a lot of other programs, but back-to-back .500 seasons is a monumental breakthrough for NPU football that can't be overstated. Thing is, though, the Vikings are a long way away from getting any separation from anybody else. That's not just apparent in the two routs that they suffered at the hands of NCC and Wheaton, it's apparent in the fact that seven of their ten games were one-score nailbiters. While they can spend the offseason mourning the ones that got away against the teams that they should've beaten (Elmhurst and Carthage) and the team that they almost upset (Wash U), the reality is that NPU could've finished anywhere from 1-9 to 8-2 this season ... and that's not next-level football.

Big sincere thank-yous to the largest NPU senior class in four decades, which is also the most successful senior class in five and a half. If Kyle Rooker can continue recruiting, retaining, and developing football classes like this one, then perhaps sometime in the not-too-distant future it might be possible for NPU to leap that yawning chasm.

[CarollFan]

There is still at least one game going on out West. Pacific Lutheran vs. Puget Sound. They got to wait for that game to finish to finish up calcs for teams in NWC that would effect.

Looking at full scoreboard, Pacific Lutheran finished but there are 2 other games at halftime.

[USee]

Also, Alma's eighth win is not yet included.

Alma has a win against D2 N Mich which doesn't count in D3 calcs.

[CarollFan]

I turned off the debacle in the western suburbs at halftime, as it was time to watch the North Park men's soccer team play in their D3 tournament game up in Minnesota. (I did keep a tab open on live stats in order to see if Matt Eck broke the NPU season passing yards record set by T.D. Conway in 2014, which he did.) If I had turned it off in anger or disgust, though, I could've done that long before halftime. It was pretty apparent much earlier that this was going to be a rout.

Congrats to Matt Eck on breaking the record. I think I might have attended his first game. It was in 2021, Carroll @ NPU. I just double checked some of the stats from that game because I remember him leading a big comeback. NPU started another QB and their offense did nothing in the first half. Carroll went into halftime with a 27-0 lead. NPU brings out a freshman QB, Matt Eck, to start the second half. He proceeds to throw for 434 yards in a half. 300 of those yards coming in the 4rth Q with 3 TD's. A.J. Harris being his main target. The score is Carroll 34-26 and NPU was driving to tie the game at the end and just fell short. I remember leaving talking to other fans going, "good thing they didn't start the freshman."

[CarollFan]

All games are over. D3 Datacast just tweeted these are their final numbers.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/football/

They have Wheaton as first team out.
According to this Wheaton would play UWRF in Isthmus

[Gregory Sager]

Congrats to Matt Eck on breaking the record.

Eck actually broke a pile of NPU football records, not just the season passing yards record. He also tied T.D. Conway's 2014 record for most touchdown passes in a season, broke Conway's 2014 records for most total-offense touchdowns (run/pass/receive) both season and career, and extended his record for career touchdown passes to 70, eight past Conway's old record. He also set new season and career marks among North Park QBs for completion percentage, as well as setting new North Park single-game completion marks against Millikin (20 attempts or more) and Augustana (30+ attempts) earlier this season.

Eck will wait his mandatory five years, and then he'll be in the Viking Hall of Fame before too much more time passes after that.

While I'm at it, kudos to Eck's fellow senior Mike Messersmith, who broke the NPU records for most career PATs and most career kicking points. Those records formerly belonged to Art Anderson (1965-68), the man whose leg almost fell off the day that North Park defeated North Central by a score of 104-32 back in the magical year of 1968.

[CuriousCCIWfan]

All games are over. D3 Datacast just tweeted these are their final numbers.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/football/

They have Wheaton as first team out.
According to this Wheaton would play UWRF in Isthmus

How accurate is this? If NPU would have beat Elmhurst and Carthage would that have boosted Wheaton's NPI numbers? It also seems like teams get in from nothing but math and not actually being the best teams. Kinda frustrating.

[CarollFan]

All games are over. D3 Datacast just tweeted these are their final numbers.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/football/

They have Wheaton as first team out.
According to this Wheaton would play UWRF in Isthmus

How accurate is this? If NPU would have beat Elmhurst and Carthage would that have boosted Wheaton's NPI numbers? It also seems like teams get in from nothing but math and not actually being the best teams. Kinda frustrating.

Without doing the math I think the 2 late conference games that would have helped if they went the other way are NPU @ Carthage and IWU @ Carroll. Both NPU and Carroll could have ended 6-4. IWU had to play NCC the last game. If NPU beat Elmhurst too to get 7-3 even better. There were some games today like Texas Lutheran scored with 33 seconds to tie and won in OT. Are they in if they lose? You just needed one more pool C knocked out. It's not official until NCAA numbers come out.

If you look at the d3 Datacast dataset you'll notice that most teams with 5 wins have a NPI under 54. A NPI over 54 is important because when you beat a team whose NPI is over 54 you can add to your game NPI an additional game winning bonus. What drags these 5 win teams under 54. They have to include all their wins even the ones that may drag their NPI down.

[CuriousCCIWfan]

All games are over. D3 Datacast just tweeted these are their final numbers.

https://d3datacast.com/npi/football/

They have Wheaton as first team out.
According to this Wheaton would play UWRF in Isthmus

How accurate is this? If NPU would have beat Elmhurst and Carthage would that have boosted Wheaton's NPI numbers? It also seems like teams get in from nothing but math and not actually being the best teams. Kinda frustrating.

Without doing the math I think the 2 late conference games that would have helped if they went the other way are NPU @ Carthage and IWU @ Carroll. Both NPU and Carroll could have ended 6-4. IWU had to play NCC the last game. If NPU beat Elmhurst too to get 7-3 even better. There were some games today like Texas Lutheran scored with 33 seconds to tie and won in OT. Are they in if they lose? You just needed one more pool C knocked out. It's not official until NCAA numbers come out.

If you look at the d3 Datacast dataset you'll notice that most teams with 5 wins have a NPI under 54. A NPI over 54 is important because when you beat a team whose NPI is over 54 you can add to your game NPI an additional game win in bonus. What drags these 5 win teams under 54. They have to include all their wins even the ones that may drag their NPI down.

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