FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[USee]

Isthmus lineup is not based on NPI. It's based on conference selection and tie breakers I believe.

[CarollFan]

Isthmus lineup is not based on NPI. It's based on conference selection and tie breakers I believe.

Yep. UWRF is 7-3 best non playoff team I'm assuming

Someone posted on twitter I guess if it's just the conference games they use it's a 4 way tie and UWS goes basically it comes down to UWRF has been there before and UWS has not.

[CarollFan]

Frank says its official from NCAA

Frank NCAA Pool C

[robertgoulet]

So Wheaton is 1st team out and NCC drops to #5 and will be on the road in the quarters if seeding holds.

[blue_jays]

After watching this Wheaton offense, they coulda gone far in the bracket and would handle the majority of these playoff teams. Sigh.

[CarollFan]

After watching this Wheaton offense, they coulda gone far in the bracket and would handle the majority of these playoff teams. Sigh.

You want to go 9-1 and not have to rely on others.

[CarollFan]

So Wheaton is 1st team out and NCC drops to #5 and will be on the road in the quarters if seeding holds.

I'll be rooting for NCC but I definitely felt better about their chances last year.

Projected bracket puts them with Cortland.
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2024/our-projected-bracket

[NCC2010]

So Wheaton is 1st team out and NCC drops to #5 and will be on the road in the quarters if seeding holds.

I'll be rooting for NCC but I definitely felt better about their chances last year.

Projected bracket puts them with Cortland.
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2024/our-projected-bracket

IMO this mock bracket is pretty good for NCC. Hard to compare vs last years path since you likely aren't playing a bad conference champ in round 1. Traveling to Cortland is tough but I would guess the coaches and players want the chance to play them again, regardless of where the game is at.

[CarollFan]

So Wheaton is 1st team out and NCC drops to #5 and will be on the road in the quarters if seeding holds.

I'll be rooting for NCC but I definitely felt better about their chances last year.

Projected bracket puts them with Cortland.
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2024/our-projected-bracket

IMO this mock bracket is pretty good for NCC. Hard to compare vs last years path since you likely aren't playing a bad conference champ in round 1. Traveling to Cortland is tough but I would guess the coaches and players want the chance to play them again, regardless of where the game is at.

I don't know that I would want Bethel in the first game. #1 rush defense in D3FB. Gave up -9 rushing yards on 27 attempts to St. John's yesterday.

[NCC2010]

So Wheaton is 1st team out and NCC drops to #5 and will be on the road in the quarters if seeding holds.

I'll be rooting for NCC but I definitely felt better about their chances last year.

Projected bracket puts them with Cortland.
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2024/our-projected-bracket

IMO this mock bracket is pretty good for NCC. Hard to compare vs last years path since you likely aren't playing a bad conference champ in round 1. Traveling to Cortland is tough but I would guess the coaches and players want the chance to play them again, regardless of where the game is at.

I don't know that I would want Bethel in the first game. #1 rush defense in D3FB. Gave up -9 rushing yards on 27 attempts to St. John's yesterday.

The option is Bethel or UWL pretty much if the committee sticks to keeping the #7/8 seeds vs #2 seeds. I'd rather play Bethel IMO.

[hazzben]

After watching this Wheaton offense, they coulda gone far in the bracket and would handle the majority of these playoff teams. Sigh.

You want to go 9-1 and not have to rely on others.

It's why they need to adjust the dials. Wheaton vs UWO is a great noncon matchup we should want to promote. But why would Wheaton or Bethel schedule a Wartburg or UWO again? The risk outweighs the reward. Better to go find some UMAC or MWC canon fodder.

[CarollFan]

So Wheaton is 1st team out and NCC drops to #5 and will be on the road in the quarters if seeding holds.

I'll be rooting for NCC but I definitely felt better about their chances last year.

Projected bracket puts them with Cortland.
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2024/our-projected-bracket

IMO this mock bracket is pretty good for NCC. Hard to compare vs last years path since you likely aren't playing a bad conference champ in round 1. Traveling to Cortland is tough but I would guess the coaches and players want the chance to play them again, regardless of where the game is at.

I don't know that I would want Bethel in the first game. #1 rush defense in D3FB. Gave up -9 rushing yards on 27 attempts to St. John's yesterday.

The option is Bethel or UWL pretty much if the committee sticks to keeping the #7/8 seeds vs #2 seeds. I'd rather play Bethel IMO.

I'm starting to get a better understanding of what it means to be #1 vs. #2.

[NCC2010]

So Wheaton is 1st team out and NCC drops to #5 and will be on the road in the quarters if seeding holds.

I'll be rooting for NCC but I definitely felt better about their chances last year.

Projected bracket puts them with Cortland.
https://www.d3football.com/playoffs/2024/our-projected-bracket

IMO this mock bracket is pretty good for NCC. Hard to compare vs last years path since you likely aren't playing a bad conference champ in round 1. Traveling to Cortland is tough but I would guess the coaches and players want the chance to play them again, regardless of where the game is at.

I don't know that I would want Bethel in the first game. #1 rush defense in D3FB. Gave up -9 rushing yards on 27 attempts to St. John's yesterday.

The option is Bethel or UWL pretty much if the committee sticks to keeping the #7/8 seeds vs #2 seeds. I'd rather play Bethel IMO.

I'm starting to get a better understanding of what it means to be #1 vs. #2.

There is the slightest chance that UWL/Bethel get paired in the St Johns bracket (tough scene for Lake Forest in that case lol) and then NCC gets winner of Coe/plus a probable team that would fly.  All really depends on if the committee sticks more to the straight seedings or overrides seeds to keep flights at a bare minimum. But if seeding has the priority, we're looking at some combination of Coe/Bethel/UWL

[CarollFan]

Reading Frank's post honestly made me chuckle. He does a bunch of math and then basically concludes 'my guess is that Wheaton's chances of getting in are 25(ish)% due to a lot of variables I haven't fully accounted for.'

He may not like Logan's metric, but there's no question that quantifiable data is driving the projections. Real games have to be played, it's still just a projection. But Frank isn't doing anything close to that. His 25% is basically pulled out of a hat.

In the season long battle between data analytics and subjectivity, did subjectivity win?

[UWO Titan 78]

The Wheaton team I saw yesterday was not the same team I saw play Oshkosh in week 1. That is the problem with a model that just uses data to pick the field. Wheaton was incorporating a band new offensive line and quarterback early in the season. They were hitting on all cylinders yesterday. This team would've been a tough out in the NCAA playoffs.