FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[79jaybird]

Albion lost last week to Olivet who was beat by both Elmhurst and IWU.  Wheaton knocked off Hope which was a pretty good win as the Dutch appear to be (currently) in the Driver's Seat in the MIAA.
I just threw the Wheaton/Augie Pool C topic in as a what if scenario.  Bottom line is that there is still A LOT of football left to play.. good thing, because the *** Bears are making me sick!! 
I think Augie has the best shot at the title, followed by Wheaton.  Elmhurst, Carthage, and North Central appear to battling for 3rd place.

[robertgoulet]

making my return to the board............



Chicago frickin Bears. Un. Be. Lievable.

6 turnovers
down 20 in the 2nd half
3 total pts from the offense


Still get the W. I am......wow.

[Pat Coleman]

2 teams from IIAC in top 25 with 3rd (Wartburg) getting points higher than CCIW leading Augie. That's really hilarious.

How many points is Baldwin-Wallace getting again? UW-Platteville?

[ncc_cardinal_fan]

making my return to the board............



Chicago frickin Bears. Un. Be. Lievable.

6 turnovers
down 20 in the 2nd half
3 total pts from the offense


Still get the W. I am......wow.

Side Note:

Probably the most unbelievable NFL game I have ever seen especially on monday night. To come back from 20-0 and not have your offense score a point is just ridiculous. Thanks God we pulled that one off.

Superbowl BABY!!!
Go Bears

[RedmenFB44]

making my return to the board............



Chicago frickin Bears. Un. Be. Lievable.

6 turnovers
down 20 in the 2nd half
3 total pts from the offense


Still get the W. I am......wow.

I still can't believe that game last night. Rex looked terrible (all 6 turnovers by him). I am just glad we have the best defensive player in the league on our team BRIAN URLACHER!!!

GO BEARS!

[CardinalAlum]

I think Augie has the best shot at the title, followed by Wheaton.  Elmhurst, Carthage, and North Central appear to battling for 3rd place.

Didn't know you had become such an NCC hater!  FYI, NCC is still battling for FIRST place!  And Elmhurst is probably lookng at 4th place at best!

[usee]

A couple thoughts on the teams and big games that remain:

-Augie should handle carthage fairly easily this weekend. Carthage needs to find an offense that hasn't been there consistently for them to compete in Rock Island and I don't see them scoring enough points to beat Augie at their place.

-I wouldn't be surprised if IWU beats Elmhurst this weekend. It shouldn't happen but IWU is going to play better and better each week. I wouldn't expect them to get blown out by anybody the rest of the way and they are going to surprise somebody down the stretch.

-I would put NCC as the favorite to beat Augie when they play. NCC has the offense to do it and the game is in Naperville. I personally think NCC has a better team after seeing both teams play.

I think the most lilkely scenario down the stretch is NCC, Wheaton win out and we get the 3 way tie w those two and Augie. Of course that means Wheaton will have to stop giving the ball away to other teams as they play tough games in kenosha and home v elmhurst and iwu.

Unfortunately for NCC this scenario doesn't bode well for them as they will have to beat augie by more than 21 points to get the AQ.

the only scenario wheaton gets 2 teams to the playoffs is if wheaton and augie win out. there is a lot of football left but I believe this is the most likely scenario with key games this weekend in rock island, ncc/augie, wheaton in kenosha.

[wheels81]

Took you a while Pat,  but BW and Platteville should also be getting the points,  Both those teams in tough leagues as well and perfomed well outside of conf.   What are the regional rankings?

[usee]

for the playoff fanatics here is another CCIW tiebreaker tidbit:

-suppose augie, ncc, wheaton finish tied. as mentioned, ncc would have to beat augie by more than 21 pts to get the AQ. IF NCC happened to beat augie by exactly 21 pts, they would be tied in the first 3 tie breakers with wheaton and the AQ would come down to the never used and little known 4th criteria: defensive yards among tied teams.

the plot thickens (I know all this analysis is premature but it is good stuff--we might not get to consider all this otherwise).

the 4th criteria wheaton gave up 276 yds to Augie and 422 to NCC for a 698 total. NCC gave up 407 to wheaton. This means that if NCC beats augie by exactly 21 pts they have to give up less than 291 yds in doing so.

the 5th criteria you ask?? random draw by the CCIW commish.

ok. I'm done.

[Mugsy]

for the playoff fanatics here is another CCIW tiebreaker tidbit:

-suppose augie, ncc, wheaton finish tied. as mentioned, ncc would have to beat augie by more than 21 pts to get the AQ. IF NCC happened to beat augie by exactly 21 pts, they would be tied in the first 3 tie breakers with wheaton and the AQ would come down to the never used and little known 4th criteria: defensive yards among tied teams.

the plot thickens (I know all this analysis is premature but it is good stuff--we might not get to consider all this otherwise).

the 4th criteria wheaton gave up 276 yds to Augie and 422 to NCC for a 698 total. NCC gave up 407 to wheaton. This means that if NCC beats augie by exactly 21 pts they have to give up less than 291 yds in doing so.

the 5th criteria you ask?? random draw by the CCIW commish.

ok. I'm done.

If any of you doubted me, I told you guys usee is the "King" of all tiebreaker scenarios!  This is why I didn't bother taking the time to research and figure it out.  Usee provides all this information to the "t" every year.

+ Karma for you.  Thanks.

[Mugsy]

I still can't believe that game last night. Rex looked terrible (all 6 turnovers by him). I am just glad we have the best defensive player in the league on our team BRIAN URLACHER!!!

GO BEARS!

Urlacher 19 tackles
Briggs 15 tackles

I can't remember the last time I saw 2 LB's from the same team with so many tackles in an NFL game.  Amazing. 

Rex had better learn to protect the ball better and stop forcing some throws.  The first 5 games he got away with some passes that should have been intercepted but weren't.  It was only a matter of time and last night he had some pathetic throws.  I still think he can be a very, very good QB... but he is still very inexperienced overall.  He can't keep relying on the defense to bail him out.

Da Bears were fortunate to come out with a 'W', but hopefully they got a lesson that they aren't unbeatable without actually taking a loss.

OK... I don't want to violate the site policies by posting non-D3 football thoughts more than I already have.

[ncc58]

for the playoff fanatics here is another CCIW tiebreaker tidbit:

-suppose augie, ncc, wheaton finish tied. as mentioned, ncc would have to beat augie by more than 21 pts to get the AQ. IF NCC happened to beat augie by exactly 21 pts, they would be tied in the first 3 tie breakers with wheaton and the AQ would come down to the never used and little known 4th criteria: defensive yards among tied teams.

the plot thickens (I know all this analysis is premature but it is good stuff--we might not get to consider all this otherwise).

the 4th criteria wheaton gave up 276 yds to Augie and 422 to NCC for a 698 total. NCC gave up 407 to wheaton. This means that if NCC beats augie by exactly 21 pts they have to give up less than 291 yds in doing so.

the 5th criteria you ask?? random draw by the CCIW commish.

ok. I'm done.

And I'm sure the CCIW is really excited about having to go to the 4th tiebreaker. The 5th tiebreaker would scre them to death.

[ncc58]

A couple thoughts on the teams and big games that remain:

-I would put NCC as the favorite to beat Augie when they play. NCC has the offense to do it and the game is in Naperville. I personally think NCC has a better team after seeing both teams play.

I think the most lilkely scenario down the stretch is NCC, Wheaton win out and we get the 3 way tie w those two and Augie. Of course that means Wheaton will have to stop giving the ball away to other teams as they play tough games in kenosha and home v elmhurst and iwu.

the only scenario wheaton gets 2 teams to the playoffs is if wheaton and augie win out. there is a lot of football left but I believe this is the most likely scenario with key games this weekend in rock island, ncc/augie, wheaton in kenosha.

Well, I don't agree that NCC will be the favorite against Augie.  I'll allow that NCC lost on the road at Wheaton and Wheaton lost on the road at Augie. But Augie still looks better than NCC. The NCC-Augie game will hinge on whether the NCC defense continues to improve and can slow down the Augie running game.

It's an interesting situation for Wheaton. If Augie beats NCC, Wheaton may still not get a Pool C bid. Their best shot is to have NCC beat Augie. I think NCC focuses on the win and doesn't gamble late to try to get to a 21 point margin. Then Wheaton gets the AQ on the 3rd qualifier. NCC has almost no shot at the Pool C bid but could be helped if CUW moves into the top 25.

A three way tie would be huge for NCC. NCC has not even shared the conference title since 1960. NCC has finished second, and has been the only team to tie or beat the conference champ, but it's been 46 years since they have reached the top. On the heels of its first playoff game, a shae of the conference title would be enormous for the program.

Right now, NCC is alone at tier 2 in the conference behind Augie and Wheaton and ahead of Elnhurst, Carthage, IWU, and Millikin. They are 2-3 in the last three years against Augie and Wheaton, but they haven't reached their level yet.

[ncc58]

I think Augie has the best shot at the title, followed by Wheaton.  Elmhurst, Carthage, and North Central appear to battling for 3rd place.

Didn't know you had become such an NCC hater!  FYI, NCC is still battling for FIRST place!  And Elmhurst is probably lookng at 4th place at best!

And Jaybird is picking Millkin in the PickEms. He clearly doesn't like us.

[usee]

Well, I don't agree that NCC will be the favorite against Augie.  I'll allow that NCC lost on the road at Wheaton and Wheaton lost on the road at Augie. But Augie still looks better than NCC.

I don't think NCC will be favored by the public majority but from what I have seen NCC is a better team than Augie(mwfb-have you seen augie play this year?). Wheaton played really well in the second half vs NCC to beat them. Wheaton played really well for the second half of the 4th quarter against Augie. I would be surprised if NCC didn't beat Augie based on what I saw. Kniss is too good a qb. the wheaton passing attack was 10-24 vs Augie. Anyone want to bet on Kniss having worse stats? and the NCC defense is better in almost every category than wheaton (they don't have Studebaker though  ). I don't think they have the same playmakers wheaton has but they are very sound on defense.