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Titanwatcher

Quote from: CardinalAlum on June 28, 2007, 11:58:50 PM
Quote from: football2007 on June 28, 2007, 11:22:15 PM
Just curious who the bad eggs are

Gee, I really don't know if I should poison your mind, but I will give you a hint.......
what makes him a bad egg?
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LK's winning percentage on the field is 92% since he took over as HC in 1986. As mentioned earlier his player graduation rate is higher. He is a Mount grad and came back after a few years doing grad assistant work and was the OC under his coach Ken Wable. He has been able to put together an amazing run through his hard work and empowering a good coaching staff. He joked last year that he is now just the mascot for the team and the rest of the staff does all the work. LOL. His son played for him and is now the DC and player after player return to do their coaching "internships"  and then go on to their own programs and successes. Currently four MUC grads are head coaches at other D3 programs and a fifth just took the OC job at Wisconsin Whitewater. He was the HC at Lakeland for five years before that.  

Coach Kehres has been able to get the most out of his players and they are willing to put in the work necessary to get the job done. And always above board.  He typically has 170-200 players ever year and they all dress for home games if they practice. He does not cut anyone. They have a strong JV program as well and players realize coming in they must earn their starting spot with hard work and dedication. Performance on the field also helps as with Nate Kmic who is one to the few "freshmen" that has started for MUC. He did not get his chance until the playoffs of 2005, his freshman year, after the starting RB for the regular season was hurt in the first playoff game. He then proceeded to gain over 1000 yards in the five playoff games and was the MVP of the Stagg Bowl. He happens to be just  5' 9" and 190lbs but is a very special player. He was considered too small for some D1 programs in the area like Bowling Green or Toeldo. Glad he chose MUC. Not unusual for him to carry the ball 30+ times a game and to use the worn out phrase...only gets stronger as the game goes on.

That kind of success grabs a lot of kids attention and they want to play for a winning program. LK does select some outstanding talent because of the way he recruits. It is not all about football. Then one of his many skills is knowing how to use the players in the right positions. Many an "athlete"  has ended up in a new position because that was where he was needed. While there certainly many talented players there is a true sense of "team" and not individual stars.

He will always have a strong O line and good skill position players. Players waiting in the wings for their chance to break into the lineup. Last year for example they lost two starting linemen early in the season to injury and two replacements were put in and the rest is history. The RB broke the season rushing record for the school  at 2300+yards and they won the
Stagg Bowl. Those two injured guys will be back hopefully to fill a couple of those open spots on the line this year.

Sorry for the long winded reply but his success has bred success and helps continue the tradition.
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usee

The MUC run is nothing short of amazing. LK is the standard for winning on and off the field. What sets him apart is the national championships. I think many great d3 programs have placed coaches in the field and had  high graduation rates. No one has done it while winning National Championships as a norm versus and exception. 

I think you could count on one hand the number of football players that have not graduated under Mike Swider and JR Bishop. I would bet their graduation rate isnt much worse than 99%.  They also have a solid group of former players in the coaching ranks (pedro arruza is at randolph macon, neal nethery dc at wabash, rick fox OC at Centre, current coordinators rod sandberg and tim hardy are alums, they have a number of alums coaching at high school across the country--also Steve Ryan--help me here Mugsy--is a head coach in Iowa?). and Wheaton's record over the past 10 years is in the top 10 in all of D3. They are as successful as you could possibly hope for a d3 school except they are 0 for alliance with no national titles.

I would bet graduation rates at d3 schools is significantly higher than any other NCAA division. It makes sense because student athletes pay to play and most d3 schools are very good academically relative to their D1 counterparts.



redman04

Quote from: CardinalAlum on June 28, 2007, 11:58:50 PM
Quote from: football2007 on June 28, 2007, 11:22:15 PM
Just curious who the bad eggs are

Gee, I really don't know if I should poison your mind, but I will give you a hint.......



Read Below!!!! 
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Mugsy

Quote from: CardinalAlum on June 28, 2007, 11:51:57 PM
Quote from: usee on June 28, 2007, 07:33:27 PM
Quote from: football2007 on June 28, 2007, 11:22:15 PM
Just curious who the bad eggs are
there is more than one bad egg in the conference.

Oh, that's right, I forgot Mugsy!


You know... I quickly scanned the board last night and just as I was logging off I thought to myself...  somehow the bad eggs comment will come back to me via CardinalAlum.   ;D
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redman04

Quote from: usee on June 29, 2007, 04:13:38 AM
The MUC run is nothing short of amazing. LK is the standard for winning on and off the field. What sets him apart is the national championships. I think many great d3 programs have placed coaches in the field and had  high graduation rates. No one has done it while winning National Championships as a norm versus and exception. 

I think you could count on one hand the number of football players that have not graduated under Mike Swider and JR Bishop. I would bet their graduation rate isnt much worse than 99%.  They also have a solid group of former players in the coaching ranks (pedro arruza is at randolph macon, neal nethery dc at wabash, rick fox OC at Centre, current coordinators rod sandberg and tim hardy are alums, they have a number of alums coaching at high school across the country--also Steve Ryan--help me here Mugsy--is a head coach in Iowa?). and Wheaton's record over the past 10 years is in the top 10 in all of D3. They are as successful as you could possibly hope for a d3 school except they are 0 for alliance with no national titles.

I would bet graduation rates at d3 schools is significantly higher than any other NCAA division. It makes sense because student athletes pay to play and most d3 schools are very good academically relative to their D1 counterparts.


Not only is that true, the fans at MUC are great.  We had a lot of fun (with the exception of the Carthage loss  :'( ) when we made the trip.  I have said it before MUC is a class act all the way.
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Mugsy

#10176
Quote from: usee on June 29, 2007, 04:13:38 AM
The MUC run is nothing short of amazing. LK is the standard for winning on and off the field. What sets him apart is the national championships. I think many great d3 programs have placed coaches in the field and had  high graduation rates. No one has done it while winning National Championships as a norm versus and exception. 

I think you could count on one hand the number of football players that have not graduated under Mike Swider and JR Bishop. I would bet their graduation rate isnt much worse than 99%.  They also have a solid group of former players in the coaching ranks (pedro arruza is at randolph macon, neal nethery dc at wabash, rick fox OC at Centre, current coordinators rod sandberg and tim hardy are alums, they have a number of alums coaching at high school across the country--also Steve Ryan--help me here Mugsy--is a head coach in Iowa?). and Wheaton's record over the past 10 years is in the top 10 in all of D3. They are as successful as you could possibly hope for a d3 school except they are 0 for alliance with no national titles.

I would bet graduation rates at d3 schools is significantly higher than any other NCAA division. It makes sense because student athletes pay to play and most d3 schools are very good academically relative to their D1 counterparts.

Steve Ryan is the head coach of Morningside College in Sioux City, Iowa.  Morningside used to be a DII football program in the same conference as North Dakota (which I believe has won a national championship or two in football).  After Morningside took a several year hiatus from football, Steve Ryan restarted the program and went 5-5 his first season as head coach.  In the previous 15 years that Morningside fielded a team, there wasn't a single winning season.   Since then they have done nothing but improve...  In 2005 they went to the semi-finals of the NAIA playoffs, losing to the eventual champs (Saint Francis).  In the quarterfinal playoff game, Morningside lost their QB (Craig Fobbe) to injury.  Fobbe shattered almost every NAIA passing record out there... include many of John Kitna's (current QB of the Detroit Lions).  He passed of 4885 yards and 41 TD's in 2005, 11,623 yards and 89 TD's for his career.

QuoteSteve Ryan has a 37-19 career record for a .661 winning percentage in five seasons with the Mustangs to make him one of the most successful head football coaches in Morningside history. Ryan, who has led the Mustangs to three consecutive NAIA National Playoff appearances, ranks third in school history in career victories and his .661 winning percentage is the highest victory rate in school history.

Ryan was named the 2005 American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) Division II Region 4 Coach of the Year and the 2005 Great Plains Athletic Conference (GPAC) Coach of the Year after he guided Morningside to its greatest football season in school history during the 2005 campaign.
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NCC_alum62

#10177
Quote from: CardinalAlum on June 28, 2007, 07:02:17 PM
Quote from: NCC_alum62 on June 28, 2007, 05:05:14 PM
Its very true about Coach Swider being a class act and heck of a coach.  The same goes for LK at Mount Union.  His graduation percentage is boasted as being just as high or higher as his winning percentage...an impressive feat considering the top D-1 schools in terms of winning have, at times, downright awful graduation percentages.

In my opinion it's rare to find a head coach in the CCIW that isn't a class act all the way.

:o :o I beg to differ!!  A certain coach of a certain CCIW school hasn't exactly been a class act in past years!   ;)


PLEASE NOTICE I SAID RARE  ;D ;D ;D

hahaha I know I know, I have never considered him a classy guy.  Ive never liked playing there I figured those of us that felt that way would understand that 1/8 is sorta rare  ;)

NCC_alum62

Quote from: Titanwatcher on June 29, 2007, 12:09:11 AM
Quote from: CardinalAlum on June 28, 2007, 11:58:50 PM
Quote from: football2007 on June 28, 2007, 11:22:15 PM
Just curious who the bad eggs are

Gee, I really don't know if I should poison your mind, but I will give you a hint.......
what makes him a bad egg?


There have definetly been some classless calls in games that he has made, as well as some shady recruiting practices.  We've had recruits who have told us that he will say pretty much anything negative he can about another school no matter how untrue.

football2007

as a newbie can't figure out all the codes. 

Mugsy

Quote from: football2007 on June 29, 2007, 11:57:45 AM
as a newbie can't figure out all the codes. 

[Disclaimer]: The hint provide below is not indictive of agreement nor disagreement of any prior comments regarding the character or lack thereof associated with coach who is not mentioned by name.

What school in the CCIW uses the colors of GREEN and white?
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football2007


usee

Quote from: Mugsy on June 29, 2007, 12:41:53 PM
Quote from: football2007 on June 29, 2007, 11:57:45 AM
as a newbie can't figure out all the codes. 

[Disclaimer]: The hint provide below is not indictive of agreement nor disagreement of any prior comments regarding the character or lack thereof associated with coach who is not mentioned by name.

What school in the CCIW uses the colors of GREEN and white?

Augie?

formerd3db

Quote from: usee on June 28, 2007, 03:42:47 AM
Quote from: formerd3db on June 27, 2007, 07:07:20 PM
usee:
Which one is that, friend?  I would think it would be either your Wheaton or Mount Union :).  Any chance we'll be able to visit at the Hope/Wheaton game this year?  Seems like one of these years we should be able to make that happen ;D

D3db,

if you are making the trek to Wheaton this year I will make a point of being there to greet you.

Usee:

At this time, I believe I will be making the trip.  I will look forward to meeting and visiting with you.  I will keep you posted nearer to the date. 
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CardinalAlum

Quote from: Mugsy on June 29, 2007, 11:11:07 AM
Steve Ryan is the head coach of Morningside College in Sioux City, Iowa.  Morningside used to be a DII football program in the same conference as North Dakota (which I believe has won a national championship or two in football).  After Morningside took a several year hiatus from football, Steve Ryan restarted the program and went 5-5 his first season as head coach.  In the previous 15 years that Morningside fielded a team, there wasn't a single winning season.   Since then they have done nothing but improve...  In 2005 they went to the semi-finals of the NAIA playoffs, losing to the eventual champs (Saint Francis).  In the quarterfinal playoff game, Morningside lost their QB (Craig Fobbe) to injury.  Fobbe shattered almost every NAIA passing record out there... include many of John Kitna's (current QB of the Detroit Lions).  He passed of 4885 yards and 41 TD's in 2005, 11,623 yards and 89 TD's for his career.

Steve Ryan has a 37-19 career record for a .661 winning percentage in five seasons with the Mustangs to make him one of the most successful head football coaches in Morningside history. Ryan, who has led the Mustangs to three consecutive NAIA National Playoff appearances, ranks third in school history in career victories and his .661 winning percentage is the highest victory rate in school history.

Ryan was named the 2005 American Football Coaches Association (AFCA) Division II Region 4 Coach of the Year and the 2005 Great Plains Athletic Conference (GPAC) Coach of the Year after he guided Morningside to its greatest football season in school history during the 2005 campaign.

That's only because I taught him everything he knows!!  :D
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