FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Mugsy]

New top 25 poll out.  Wheaton stays at #10, North Central climbs to #13 and not unexpectedly, Augie drops out of top 25.

Augie, Carthage and Elmhurst are all receiving votes.

BW jumps 10 spots to #14 after beating Augie.

[79jaybird]

Coach Campbell, great to meet you on Saturday and congratulations on the big victory.  I did make it to Carthage for the second half and was very impressed with the Carthage defense.  Battle of two very good teams.  I don't see Carthage having any trouble with Whittier and (I'm hoping Elmhurst) doesn't have trouble with UC, OC.. I am looking at a good CCIW opener between 3-0 EC and 3-0 Carthage.  Note*  the visiting team has won the last 2 contests, so hopefully this year EC can break that string.    Enjoy this victory as your defense really came up with a big night.

[Pat Coleman]

carthage having a nice preseason.

Preseason is done, man. These are regular-season games.

[WahooThunder]

carthage having a nice preseason.

Preseason is done, man. These are regular-season games.

I think usee means pre-CCIW season.  After all, non-conference games just don't compare (except for the occasional Baldwin-Wallace/Augustana type game).  It almost does seem like the preseason.

[Mugsy]

carthage having a nice preseason.

Preseason is done, man. These are regular-season games.

I think usee means pre-CCIW season.  After all, non-conference games just don't compare (except for the occasional Baldwin-Wallace/Augustana type game).  It almost does seem like the preseason.

You won't say it's preseason when a loss in these games keeps you out of the playoff picture.  A win or loss in the non-conference game costs the same in terms of a 'W' or 'L'.

[Ralph Turner]

Mugsy beat me to it...



However, the "pre-conference" "in region games" count towards playoff seeding and when considering atl-large bids.

Baldwin-Wallace just moved to the top of the list for Pool C, if they don't beat MUC.

[WahooThunder]

Ittersagen has to be on the Team of the Week tomorrow...the only thing he didn't do yesterday was return a interception for a TD.  Maybe the anklebreak has made him a better player???

I agree, definitely a player of the week worthy game for Ittersagen on Saturday.  The only question is whether is should be for defense or special teams.  Ten tackles, an INT, and the punt return for a TD.  I don't know if the ankle break made him a better player, but it looks like he got stronger in the offseason and he certainly looks to be back to 100% in terms of speed and agility.  I think this is just the beginning of what we are going to see from him as the season progresses.

[WahooThunder]

carthage having a nice preseason.

Preseason is done, man. These are regular-season games.

I think usee means pre-CCIW season.  After all, non-conference games just don't compare (except for the occasional Baldwin-Wallace/Augustana type game).  It almost does seem like the preseason.

You won't say it's preseason when a loss in these games keeps you out of the playoff picture.  A win or loss in the non-conference game costs the same in terms of a 'W' or 'L'.

Hence, the exception I mentioned for the Augie game.  I wasn't saying they aren't important, but I don't think a win over Lakeland is quite as impressive or significant as one over Wheaton, Augie, or North Central.

[WahooThunder]

also, I saw Rowson wasn't playing on OLine. is he hurt?

What I heard originally was that he hurt his knee, yet he played almost 3 quarters against Wabash in the scrimmage.  I was completely surprised to see him playing against Wabash.

I haven't heard anything about his status.

Rowson was at the game, but was not on the sideline and did not travel with the team.  My understanding at this point is that he will be back for the game against Hope, but I don't know the exact circumstances behind his absence. 

[WahooThunder]

I am very concerned about Wheaton's offense.  They looked like they expected Albion to simply lay down for them.  The appeared to play really lackadaisical all day.  They did not adjust well to Albion's speed and pursuit on defense.  I agree that Ullrich looked a little off.  Overthrowing receivers on several occaisions and trying to force the ball seemed to be his biggest downfalls.  That said, he looked comfortable for most of the game. 

In addition on offense, they didn't show any speed capabilities from the wide receivers.  Perhaps it was the plays that were called, but most every grab seemed to be a posession catch and there wasn't really a chance to have many yards after the catch. 

Wheaton's defense seemed to have some trouble with Albion when Blake Evans their quarterback turned more into a runner.  I was a little surprised at how poor some of Wheaton's tackling was.  On a couple of occaisions the defensive backs were juked out of their socks and didn't seem to want to use their shoulder pads.

I was disappointed by the offensive effort as well, though I am more worried about the running game than the passing game.  Ullrich and the receiving corps will be fine and they looked great in the first half.  I think part of it was that he was under pressure a lot and forced to hurry his throws.  Getting Rowson back and the rest of the O-line healthy will help with that.

As for the defense, part of it can be explained by injuries to McKinney (out) and Pagh (who saw very limited playing time) and the absence of Kirk McKenney for most of the second half.  Like you said, though, they did have trouble when Evans started running the ball in the second half and it is interesting that both offense and defense played significantly better in the 1st half.  Hopefully it was just the effects of an overnight road trip, time-zone change, and being the first game of the year, but I would definitely like to see them put in at least closer to 50 strong minutes next week against Wash U as opposed to 30 this week.

[usee]

Ittersagen has to be on the Team of the Week tomorrow...the only thing he didn't do yesterday was return a interception for a TD.  Maybe the anklebreak has made him a better player???

I agree, definitely a player of the week worthy game for Ittersagen on Saturday.  The only question is whether is should be for defense or special teams.  Ten tackles, an INT, and the punt return for a TD.  I don't know if the ankle break made him a better player, but it looks like he got stronger in the offseason and he certainly looks to be back to 100% in terms of speed and agility.  I think this is just the beginning of what we are going to see from him as the season progresses.

the answer is special teams. POW is out. Debouf from carthage, wenger from naperville school and ittersagen for special teams.

tough choice to pick between debouf and sulo for POW offense.

[usee]

carthage having a nice preseason.

Preseason is done, man. These are regular-season games.

I think usee means pre-CCIW season.  After all, non-conference games just don't compare (except for the occasional Baldwin-Wallace/Augustana type game).  It almost does seem like the preseason.

You won't say it's preseason when a loss in these games keeps you out of the playoff picture.  A win or loss in the non-conference game costs the same in terms of a 'W' or 'L'.

I am pretty sure I know what the non conference games mean for Pool C. If you win your CCIW games you are in the playoffs. I can assure you I will still refer to it as the preseason no matter what it means, especially for carthage. I may complain about it, but it will still be a preseason game. You can' t teach an old dog new tricks. 

[usee]

also, I saw Rowson wasn't playing on OLine. is he hurt?

What I heard originally was that he hurt his knee, yet he played almost 3 quarters against Wabash in the scrimmage.  I was completely surprised to see him playing against Wabash.

I haven't heard anything about his status.

Rowson was at the game, but was not on the sideline and did not travel with the team.  My understanding at this point is that he will be back for the game against Hope, but I don't know the exact circumstances behind his absence. 

that sounds like a suspension to me.  I can't imagine Rowson doing a video for abercrombie? 

[Pat Coleman]

You can call it that, but you'd be just plain wrong.

They are non-conference games. Preseason games do not count in the team's win-loss records -- if you have any question about that, check your NFL standings, the ones with one game, not five or six.

[usee]

You can call it that, but you'd be just plain wrong.

They are non-conference games. Preseason games do not count in the team's win-loss records -- if you have any question about that, check your NFL standings, the ones with one game, not five or six.

You are right, I can call it that. And I will thanks. won't be the first time I'm wrong. And these games won't count in the CCIW standings. If you have any question about that you can go to www.cciw.org/football and check the standings, the ones that say 0-0.