FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[cardinaldad]

I have heard that Andy Studebaker is out for the upcoming game vs Augustana and probably at least the next week too.  Wheaton fans - any confirmation?

Q, your source has been very reliable (a player on the wheaton team if I recall) so that wouldn't be at all surprising. I have not heard anything. the reality is we will see how good wheaton's defense is this week as plays will have to be made by people not named studebaker or ittersagen. Their DLine has an opportunity to make a name for itself other than "the 3 guys not named Andy". and their LB's will have a major challenge. On offense, they cannot afford to produce no first downs for almost a quarter and no points for over a half. Wheaton's depth and strength will be tested this week more than it has all season.

Usee, is Ittersagan out? I thought he was going to be healthy for the game this weekend.

[Mr. Ypsi]

While the injuries obviously can't be helpful, I don't foresee Wheaton having all that hard a time meeting the test.  Augie seems less than vintage Augie this year.  IWU seems much improved after nearly falling to the cellar, but I can't see a 'classic' Viking team having lost to them (and no one besides me taking a flyer foresaw it in pickems).  And their other loss looks much worse now than it did then - Bald Wally was kicked by 3 tds by ... wait for it ... Heidelberg!

While history says Augie-Wheaton matchups can be 'weird', I think the Thunder will take this one fairly easily.

[Mugsy]

I have heard that Andy Studebaker is out for the upcoming game vs Augustana and probably at least the next week too.  Wheaton fans - any confirmation?

Q, your source has been very reliable (a player on the wheaton team if I recall) so that wouldn't be at all surprising. I have not heard anything. the reality is we will see how good wheaton's defense is this week as plays will have to be made by people not named studebaker or ittersagen. Their DLine has an opportunity to make a name for itself other than "the 3 guys not named Andy". and their LB's will have a major challenge. On offense, they cannot afford to produce no first downs for almost a quarter and no points for over a half. Wheaton's depth and strength will be tested this week more than it has all season.

Usee, is Ittersagan out? I thought he was going to be healthy for the game this weekend.

Whether he is out or not, corners don't factor in as much against the wing-t offense.  Or at least they shouldn't.  If you corner is leading in tackles against Augie, you are having a long, long day.  Safeties often can have a large number of tackles, but not corners.

[usee]

I have heard that Andy Studebaker is out for the upcoming game vs Augustana and probably at least the next week too.  Wheaton fans - any confirmation?

Q, your source has been very reliable (a player on the wheaton team if I recall) so that wouldn't be at all surprising. I have not heard anything. the reality is we will see how good wheaton's defense is this week as plays will have to be made by people not named studebaker or ittersagen. Their DLine has an opportunity to make a name for itself other than "the 3 guys not named Andy". and their LB's will have a major challenge. On offense, they cannot afford to produce no first downs for almost a quarter and no points for over a half. Wheaton's depth and strength will be tested this week more than it has all season.

Usee, is Ittersagan out? I thought he was going to be healthy for the game this weekend.

He will play. Augie being a running team, I was making the assumption that they will spread it out enough to keep him from the action.

He will be a factor on special teams for sure and he will find a way to make his presence known in the running game.  

[Viking Mike]

In regards to the Augie-Wheaton matchup on Sat...I disagree with the earlier assessment on the game being relatively easy for Wheaton.  While Augie did have struggles at B-W and IWU, they have shown that they can play very strong as they did against Wisc-Platteville and Elmhurst.  Augie's defense is playing very well right now and really slowed down a very offensive bluejay team.  My concern is with the offense.  If Augie can run the ball like they did against elmhurst and hit that occasional 20-30 yard reception with some regularity, I like their chances against Wheaton.  McGinnis and his receivers have had some difficulty hooking up so far but they are bound to put it together one of these days and Wheaton's pass defense may just be the ticket.  That being said, I think the Thunder is a very talented, veteran team and on paper appears to have all the ingredients for a CCIW title and playoff appearance.  Augie controlled the IWU game but did not execute in the 2nd half and allowed an inspired Titan team to take advantage.  Defensively, IWU is a very strong defensive team and Wheaton should be very concerned about a matchup in Bloomington at the end of the year.  Augie should have beat them, but didn't.  Now there back is to the wall and every game is a must, starting with this Saturday!!!  Go Augustana...Here's hoping all local alumni can make it out to McCully Stadium on Saturday to see the Viking/Thunder match-up...and that new jumbotron/replay scoreboard!

[burly]

I have heard that Andy Studebaker is out for the upcoming game vs Augustana and probably at least the next week too.  Wheaton fans - any confirmation?

Q, your source has been very reliable (a player on the wheaton team if I recall) so that wouldn't be at all surprising. I have not heard anything. the reality is we will see how good wheaton's defense is this week as plays will have to be made by people not named studebaker or ittersagen. Their DLine has an opportunity to make a name for itself other than "the 3 guys not named Andy". and their LB's will have a major challenge. On offense, they cannot afford to produce no first downs for almost a quarter and no points for over a half. Wheaton's depth and strength will be tested this week more than it has all season.

Usee, is Ittersagan out? I thought he was going to be healthy for the game this weekend.

Whether he is out or not, corners don't factor in as much against the wing-t offense.  Or at least they shouldn't.  If you corner is leading in tackles against Augie, you are having a long, long day.  Safeties often can have a large number of tackles, but not corners.

Even so, this is an LBs dream game.  If your free safety is making a majority of the tackles, the RB is already 3+ yards pass the LOS and your LBs aren't getting it done.

For example, EC Free Safety last Saturday:

Elmhurst           
## Player          Solo  Ast  Tot  TFL/Yds  FF FR-Yd Intc BrUp Blkd Sack/Yds QH
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
8  Maple, Kyle       17    9 21.5  0.5/2    .   .     .      .    .      .     .

[SonsofThunder]

Wow.  Those are impressive stats. 

If Augie can find a way to stay on the field for 44 minutes, they'll make it hard on anyone they play.

[burly]

Wow.  Those are impressive stats. 

If Augie can find a way to stay on the field for 44 minutes, they'll make it hard on anyone they play.

They would be even more impressive if he wasn't the last man standing between the ball and the endzone.

[SonsofThunder]

Touche Billy.

[burly]

I have heard that Andy Studebaker is out for the upcoming game vs Augustana and probably at least the next week too.  Wheaton fans - any confirmation?

I'm beginning to believe that Studebaker is on your fantasy team.  Are you going to sit him this week or not?  Kidding...

[usee]

I have heard that Andy Studebaker is out for the upcoming game vs Augustana and probably at least the next week too.  Wheaton fans - any confirmation?

Q, your source has been very reliable (a player on the wheaton team if I recall) so that wouldn't be at all surprising. I have not heard anything. the reality is we will see how good wheaton's defense is this week as plays will have to be made by people not named studebaker or ittersagen. Their DLine has an opportunity to make a name for itself other than "the 3 guys not named Andy". and their LB's will have a major challenge. On offense, they cannot afford to produce no first downs for almost a quarter and no points for over a half. Wheaton's depth and strength will be tested this week more than it has all season.

Usee, is Ittersagan out? I thought he was going to be healthy for the game this weekend.

Whether he is out or not, corners don't factor in as much against the wing-t offense.  Or at least they shouldn't.  If you corner is leading in tackles against Augie, you are having a long, long day.  Safeties often can have a large number of tackles, but not corners.

Even so, this is an LBs dream game.  If your free safety is making a majority of the tackles, the RB is already 3+ yards pass the LOS and your LBs aren't getting it done.

For example, EC Free Safety last Saturday:

Elmhurst           
## Player          Solo  Ast  Tot  TFL/Yds  FF FR-Yd Intc BrUp Blkd Sack/Yds QH
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
8  Maple, Kyle       17    9 21.5  0.5/2    .   .     .      .    .      .     .

Have you ever seen mt union play? their safetys are regularly making tackles at the LOS

[RadioNotes]

Made the Wheaton/NCC game....3rd time I have seen this match up and it is always close.  GREAT GAME!!  That being said....having a game so close at the end that the refs can make an impact is not the way either team should have won!!  Hope NCC, who statistically should have won, have learned their lesson!!  Never again leave any conference game so close -- They should have never let them back within striking distance!  Hope Wheaton can overcome their injuries to do the CCIW proud this year--although they did not look as impressive -- They have the W and now the votes!

[burly]

I have heard that Andy Studebaker is out for the upcoming game vs Augustana and probably at least the next week too.  Wheaton fans - any confirmation?

Q, your source has been very reliable (a player on the wheaton team if I recall) so that wouldn't be at all surprising. I have not heard anything. the reality is we will see how good wheaton's defense is this week as plays will have to be made by people not named studebaker or ittersagen. Their DLine has an opportunity to make a name for itself other than "the 3 guys not named Andy". and their LB's will have a major challenge. On offense, they cannot afford to produce no first downs for almost a quarter and no points for over a half. Wheaton's depth and strength will be tested this week more than it has all season.

Usee, is Ittersagan out? I thought he was going to be healthy for the game this weekend.

Whether he is out or not, corners don't factor in as much against the wing-t offense.  Or at least they shouldn't.  If you corner is leading in tackles against Augie, you are having a long, long day.  Safeties often can have a large number of tackles, but not corners.

Even so, this is an LBs dream game.  If your free safety is making a majority of the tackles, the RB is already 3+ yards pass the LOS and your LBs aren't getting it done.

For example, EC Free Safety last Saturday:

Elmhurst           
## Player          Solo  Ast  Tot  TFL/Yds  FF FR-Yd Intc BrUp Blkd Sack/Yds QH
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
8  Maple, Kyle       17    9 21.5  0.5/2    .   .     .      .    .      .     .

Have you ever seen mt union play? their safetys are regularly making tackles at the LOS

Yes, they run the alleys better than any safetys in the league.  But, that is different - the scenario above is against a Wing-T offense.  Against Augie, you will most likely only have one safety and he is the only person on the field playing pass first.  He is also your last man standing.

[usee]

Yes, they run the alleys better than any safetys in the league.  But, that is different - the scenario above is against a Wing-T offense.  Against Augie, you will most likely only have one safety and he is the only person on the field playing pass first.  He is also your last man standing.

Not necessarily. it depends on the scheme. I don't know what coverage elmhurst is playing these days but MUC plays a lot of safety support coverage. corners are basically man and safetys are run support. elmhurst has played some of that in past and that usually leads to a lot of tackles from the safety spot.

[burly]

Yes, they run the alleys better than any safetys in the league.  But, that is different - the scenario above is against a Wing-T offense.  Against Augie, you will most likely only have one safety and he is the only person on the field playing pass first.  He is also your last man standing.

Not necessarily. it depends on the scheme. I don't know what coverage elmhurst is playing these days but MUC plays a lot of safety support coverage. corners are basically man and safetys are run support. elmhurst has played some of that in past and that usually leads to a lot of tackles from the safety spot.

Fair enough.  But with Augie, these schemes have traditionally included an extra LB not a Safety.  Also, when you have guys like Chris Kern man-to-man at corner, you can afford to let your safetys run wild.