FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[FormerCard]

Pat,

when I click on the wheaton/augie photos from the weekend, all I get is Nc photos...just a little FYI

[usee]

Right now its obviously a 3 horse race for the CCIW title and a playoff bid. The only chance the CCIW has of getting 2 teams in is if wheaton loses 1 game down the stretch and either NCC or IWU grab the AQ as a result. Wheaton as a 1 loss team would likely get a pool C.

here are the schedules for these teams:

NCC: vs Millikin; @Augie; v IWU; @ Carthage
IWU: v Elmhurst; @NPU; @ NCC; v Wheaton
Wheaton: v NPU; @ Elmhurst; v Carthage; @ IWU

The 2 games that will shape this race are NCC @ Augie and v IWU.  Can any other contender get a CCIW road win? Wheaton has a win @ NCC in its pocket. NCC needs to win @ Augie and IWU needs a win @ NCC.

[usee]

usee, thanks for the reminder on the tie-break.  I was going to ask for a refresher, but thought it was too premature.

But as long as the prematurity ice has been broken - it would be best for the conference if IWU downed Wheaton, and the winner of the NCC-IWU game got the AQ.  A one-loss Wheaton team would still be a lock for a pool C (IMO); no other team has a snowball's chance in you-know-where for the conference to get a second team in.  [I'm sure my logic will not sway any Thunder fans, but its never too early to start lobbying support from the rest of the board! ]

It depends on your perspective. an undefeated Wheaton team gets a #2 seed and 2 home playoff games. Also gets a chance (possibly) to play capital in Wheaton and work on this OAC/CCIW problem. A 1 loss wheaton and IWU/NCC playoff gets a couple teams back to back all expense paid 7 hour bus trips to the purple altar in Alliance.

[Comet 14]

Not having seen IWU play yet, I would like a little help. What kind of offense do they run? Are they a running team, passing team or are they a balanced offensive team. And who are there standout players on both sides of the ball. and last but not least considering Elmhurst's last 2 weeks what are the Jays chances coming out of Bloomington with a W?

[usee]

Not having seen IWU play yet, I would like a little help. What kind of offense do they run? Are they a running team, passing team or are they a balanced offensive team. And who are there standout players on both sides of the ball. and last but not least considering Elmhurst's last 2 weeks what are the Jays chances coming out of Bloomington with a W?

IWU has been a pro style offense. Usually 2 RB's and 2-3 WR and/or a TE. They run a mix of pass/run. They have liked to be balanced when they have the horses but will favor their better players at times. The strength of their team is the defense. They have given up some running yards but their pass defense has been solid.

I suspect Elmhurst will struggle offensively but I would also expect IWU to struggle moving the ball against the Elmhurst defense. I think Elmhurst has a reasonable chance to win if their special teams make some plays and they created some turnovers.

I would favor IWU in this game 7-8 pts. But what do I know....my pickem's is at the bottom of the pack.

[Pat Coleman]

Thanks for the heads-up, Former Card. My bad.

[usee]

Thanks for the heads-up, Former Card. My bad.

your first mistake of the year!! don't let it happen again.

[New Tradition]

Right now its obviously a 3 horse race for the CCIW title and a playoff bid. The only chance the CCIW has of getting 2 teams in is if wheaton loses 1 game down the stretch and either NCC or IWU grab the AQ as a result. Wheaton as a 1 loss team would likely get a pool C.

here are the schedules for these teams:

NCC: vs Millikin; @Augie; v IWU; @ Carthage
IWU: v Elmhurst; @NPU; @ NCC; v Wheaton
Wheaton: v NPU; @ Elmhurst; v Carthage; @ IWU

The 2 games that will shape this race are NCC @ Augie and v IWU.  Can any other contender get a CCIW road win? Wheaton has a win @ NCC in its pocket. NCC needs to win @ Augie and IWU needs a win @ NCC.

Wouldn't NCC have to win at Augie and at home vs. IWU and IWU have to lose to NCC but beat Wheaton?

[Mr. Ypsi]

usee, thanks for the reminder on the tie-break.  I was going to ask for a refresher, but thought it was too premature.

But as long as the prematurity ice has been broken - it would be best for the conference if IWU downed Wheaton, and the winner of the NCC-IWU game got the AQ.  A one-loss Wheaton team would still be a lock for a pool C (IMO); no other team has a snowball's chance in you-know-where for the conference to get a second team in.  [I'm sure my logic will not sway any Thunder fans, but its never too early to start lobbying support from the rest of the board! ]

It depends on your perspective. an undefeated Wheaton team gets a #2 seed and 2 home playoff games. Also gets a chance (possibly) to play capital in Wheaton and work on this OAC/CCIW problem. A 1 loss wheaton and IWU/NCC playoff gets a couple teams back to back all expense paid 7 hour bus trips to the purple altar in Alliance.

Probably true about Wheaton, but the 'back to back...in Alliance' is doubtful.  Here's where we DO encounter 'way-premature', but the MIAA AQ will have at least 3 losses, so I suspect THEY will spend the first Saturday in Alliance.  As of today (who knows by then!), I'd say that Wheaton would still have one home game (vs. TBD) while NCC/IWU would probably be headed for Capital or Franklin (one hopes for the latter!).

New Tradition - yes, unless Wheaton loses twice (doubtful), NCC's only chance is a 3-way tie (which means winning out and IWU beating Wheaton).

[FormerCard]

Thanks for the heads-up, Former Card. My bad.

Just lending my helping hand to this juggernaut we call... d3football.com

You guys got a great weekend to come out and you saw 3 pretty decent games.    Is it most likely the last time you will be seeing IBC and CCIW football this year pre-playoffs?

[Pat Coleman]

Very much so, and the last time we'll ever see IBC football, since the league is disbanding.

[formerd3db]

Mr. Ypsi:

Oh no, do you really think they [NCAA] would be that mean to us? !!!  I am fearful of another debacle in Alliance if the arrangement you speculate comes to fruition, even if it is us [Hope] that is fortunate to win the MIAA title

[Mr. Ypsi]

As a Michigander myself, I regret it - but I suspect those pre-conference losses (and past playoff performance) make it likely.  Go shock the (d3) world!

[formerd3db]

Hey, I really thought (at least had myself convinced ) that we would do that last year against them !  We were so "adrenalinized with excitement" before the game and had believed we might "have a shot" at it.  However, the first 6 minutes of the game rapidly "burst that bubble" and, alas, reality set in!   However,. . .miracles do happen (sometimes ), yet it will be awhile for that I'm sure!   Nothing wrong with dreaming and giving it "that old college try" though.

[HScoach]

Since we're on the "way too early playoff seeding" discussion, I'll add in my 2 cents.   My uneducated opinon on the North Region seedings would go like as shown below.  Granted I've made a huge assumption that the current conference leaders win out, but here it is nonetheless:

1.  Mount Union (10-0) OAC Champ - Pool A
8.  Hope/Olivet (7-3) MIAA Champ - Pool A

4.  Capital (9-1) OAC Runner up - Pool C
5.  Franklin (9-1) HCAC Champ - Pool A

3.  Wabash (10-0) NCAC Champ - Pool A
6.  Case Western Reserve (10-0) UAA Champ - Pool B

2.  Wheaton (10-0) CCIW Champ - Pool A
7.  Concordia/Lakeland (8-2) IBC Champ - Pool A

IMHO, what kills the CCIW's chances of getting a Pool C bid is the 2nd place team having 2 losses as well as there being a legit North Region Pool B team in Case sitting at 10-0.  Unless there are a ton of losses nationally with no surprise upsets in Pool A conferences, I don't think 8-2 gets another CCIW team in.  9-1 would have been for sure.   

For there to be any chance, the CCIW folks need the Pool A conference champs to be the clear favorite, not the upstart stealing it and leaving the "name" sitting at 9-1 and looking for Pool C.  Ala St John's if they stumble in the MIAC.