FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[usee]

I understand that. But do you think this year will effect the coaching staff?

I can't speak about the assistants, but Barnes has the best winning percentage of any CCIW coach. 

Not true Ypsi!! This year Wheaton is 7-0 and Augie is 3-4 giving Mike Swider the best winning percentage in the CCIW!!

[Mugsy]

Dont look now, but NC QB Fanthorpe is putting together some impressive numbers, maybe competing against Ladd for All-CCIW.  I must say that I have been pleasantly surprised with his game this year.  He is a competitor and even with Sulo putting up All-Conference numbers,  Fanthorpe is still averaging 200 yds passing a game, leading the conf in total offense and has a good TD to INT ratio. 

Conference Stats:

TOTAL OFFENSE      Team Cl  G Rush Pass Plays Total Yds/G
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1. Fanthorpe, Aaro NCC  SO  4  217  802   148  1019 254.8
2. Ladd, Kraig.... IWU  SO  4   88  900   158   988 247.0
3. Wood, Shelby... NPU  SO  4  -30  963   171   933 233.2

PASSING AVG/GAME   Team Cl  G Att Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds TD Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. Wood, Shelby... NPU  SO  4 150  82   7  54.7  963  6 240.8
2. Ladd, Kraig.... IWU  SO  4 126  74   4  58.7  900  9 225.0
3. Kudyba, Chris.. ELMH SR  4 149  77  12  51.7  843  5 210.8
4. Fanthorpe, Aaro NCC  SO  4  91  54   4  59.3  802  8 200.5

PASS EFFICIENCY    Team Cl  G Att Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds TD  Eff.
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. Podulka, Tim... AUGI JR  4  10  10   0 100.0   98  2 248.3
2. Norris, Sean... WHEA SO  3  59  37   4  62.7  570  6 163.9
3. Fanthorpe, Aaro NCC  SO  4  91  54   4  59.3  802  8 153.6
4. Ladd, Kraig.... IWU  SO  4 126  74   4  58.7  900  9 136.0

Ladd and Fanthrope are putting together solid seasons, but their stats (leading the conference) have been helped by Wheaton's necessity to use 3 QB's.  The Wheaton QB's combined have passed for 1700 yards and 20 TD's vs. 8 INT's.  If (and I know it is an 'if') Wheaton had used 1 QB this year, he would by high probability be the front runner to 1st team.

O'Boyle from Carthage would also be right up there had he avoided injury.

I don't dispute Ladd and Fanthrope from consideration, but this has been an atypical season for the QB in the CCIW.

[Mr. Ypsi]

I understand that. But do you think this year will effect the coaching staff?

I can't speak about the assistants, but Barnes has the best winning percentage of any CCIW coach. 

Not true Ypsi!! This year Wheaton is 7-0 and Augie is 3-4 giving Mike Swider the best winning percentage in the CCIW!!

Yeah, they were close enough entering the season that I probably should have updated, but I didn't.  

Let me re-phrase: through 2006, Barnes had the best winning percentage of any CCIW coach, and if one down season causes his termination, Augie will have to live with the consequences!

[usee]

I understand that. But do you think this year will effect the coaching staff?

I can't speak about the assistants, but Barnes has the best winning percentage of any CCIW coach. 

Not true Ypsi!! This year Wheaton is 7-0 and Augie is 3-4 giving Mike Swider the best winning percentage in the CCIW!!

Yeah, they were close enough entering the season that I probably should have updated, but I didn't.  

Let me re-phrase: through 2006, Barnes had the best winning percentage of any CCIW coach, and if one down season causes his termination, Augie will have to live with the consequences!

don't worry. we are all human. I forgive you.

[Mr. Ypsi]

For the curious, Barnes entered the season at .816, but has fallen to .768; Swider began at .792, but has risen to .810.  (The next two winningest coaches in percentage terms [as of today] are Thorne [NCC] at .690 and Eash [IWU] at .622.)

Mike Swider will need quite a string of unbeaten seasons to take over the all-time top spot: Bob Reade (Augie) went .900 from 1979-94, while Harve Chrouser (Wheaton) was a close second at .896 from 1946-59.  And I'm not sure anyone will have the longetivity to top Don Larson (IWU) in number of wins: 142.  (Eash leads current coaches with 94, Swider in next with 68.)

[Gregory Sager]

In his stead, junior RB Jacob Mueller had a solid day for the Vikings, gaining 99 yards on 18 carries.

I was surprised at how well NP ran the ball.  I believe that was in part due to NP having some quality skill position players and in part to Wheaton starting a 3rd string DT and a 2nd string DT.  Most of the damage was done right up the gut and several were plays that looked like they were stopped in the backfield, but the NP back didn't quit and somehow broke through a crack for a 15+ yard gain.

Personally, I think NP is on the right track.  In another 2-3 years if the coaching staff is intact, this could be a very competitive team.  I like what they do on offense, they just need some bigger guys on the line.  Defensively there is still a bit of work to do.

It's always been about the trenches for NPU. The Vikings have had good skill-position players from time to time -- usually not as many as they have at the moment, though -- but NPU's chronic inability to develop solid O- and D-lines has helped keep the North Park football program from ever gaining any traction.

It'll take good recruiting by Scott Pethtel and the rest of the NPU coaching staff to correct that, but I think that the fantastic new weight room in Helwig Rec Center will go a long way towards helping to develop linemen -- particularly if the school can hire a full-time strength coordinator to show student-athletes how to use the equipment properly. Hiring a strength coordinator for all the varsity athletes on campus is a very high priority among all of NPU's coaches at the moment.

[Gregory Sager]

A "down" year for a program like Augie's doesn't consist of only wins or losses.  A guy could average 8 a year for his career....which would be ludacris

Really? I had no idea that the platinum-selling rapper/actor was a former college football coach.

[burly]

Augie is like the Michigan of the CCIW.  They are always good and everyone is gunning for them.  Barnes is a good coach, his record shows it, but like Michigan, 2 losses at the beginning of the year have people calling for lloyd carr's head!  Augie may have 3 losses in conference, but i would bet that they will be back as strong as ever next year. They always seam to. 

Also I hope that the redmen (kids on the team) had 1/8 of the good time that  we had after we beat augie my freshmen year at carthage!  Might of been one of the most fun nights of my life! 

For those of you who did not know the back drop of the game  Augie was 3-0 Carthage was 0-3 Augie was a top 20 team Carthage had won 3 games in 2 years.  It was homecoming at carthage and rucks gave an impassioned speech about winning your homecoming.  About how Carthage had not won homecoming in years and that we would change that!  It was awesome. 

Except this year, Michigan will win the Big 10.

[burly]

A "down" year for a program like Augie's doesn't consist of only wins or losses.  A guy could average 8 a year for his career....which would be ludacris

Really? I had no idea that the platinum-selling rapper/actor was a former college football coach.

Plugged Nickel to Ludacris.  Mr. Sager, you are a legend.

[Redmen96]

Augie is like the Michigan of the CCIW.  They are always good and everyone is gunning for them.  Barnes is a good coach, his record shows it, but like Michigan, 2 losses at the beginning of the year have people calling for lloyd carr's head!  Augie may have 3 losses in conference, but i would bet that they will be back as strong as ever next year. They always seam to. 

Also I hope that the redmen (kids on the team) had 1/8 of the good time that  we had after we beat augie my freshmen year at carthage!  Might of been one of the most fun nights of my life! 

For those of you who did not know the back drop of the game  Augie was 3-0 Carthage was 0-3 Augie was a top 20 team Carthage had won 3 games in 2 years.  It was homecoming at carthage and rucks gave an impassioned speech about winning your homecoming.  About how Carthage had not won homecoming in years and that we would change that!  It was awesome. 

Hey I played in that game. I think it was the new all black unis.  Does that make me a vital part of history?
We partied like Rock Stars that night

[FormerCard]

Dont look now, but NC QB Fanthorpe is putting together some impressive numbers, maybe competing against Ladd for All-CCIW.  I must say that I have been pleasantly surprised with his game this year.  He is a competitor and even with Sulo putting up All-Conference numbers,  Fanthorpe is still averaging 200 yds passing a game, leading the conf in total offense and has a good TD to INT ratio. 

Conference Stats:

TOTAL OFFENSE      Team Cl  G Rush Pass Plays Total Yds/G
---------------------------------------------------------
1. Fanthorpe, Aaro NCC  SO  4  217  802   148  1019 254.8
2. Ladd, Kraig.... IWU  SO  4   88  900   158   988 247.0
3. Wood, Shelby... NPU  SO  4  -30  963   171   933 233.2

PASSING AVG/GAME   Team Cl  G Att Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds TD Avg/G
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. Wood, Shelby... NPU  SO  4 150  82   7  54.7  963  6 240.8
2. Ladd, Kraig.... IWU  SO  4 126  74   4  58.7  900  9 225.0
3. Kudyba, Chris.. ELMH SR  4 149  77  12  51.7  843  5 210.8
4. Fanthorpe, Aaro NCC  SO  4  91  54   4  59.3  802  8 200.5

PASS EFFICIENCY    Team Cl  G Att Cmp Int  Pct.  Yds TD  Eff.
-------------------------------------------------------------
1. Podulka, Tim... AUGI JR  4  10  10   0 100.0   98  2 248.3
2. Norris, Sean... WHEA SO  3  59  37   4  62.7  570  6 163.9
3. Fanthorpe, Aaro NCC  SO  4  91  54   4  59.3  802  8 153.6
4. Ladd, Kraig.... IWU  SO  4 126  74   4  58.7  900  9 136.0

Ladd and Fanthrope are putting together solid seasons, but their stats (leading the conference) have been helped by Wheaton's necessity to use 3 QB's.  The Wheaton QB's combined have passed for 1700 yards and 20 TD's vs. 8 INT's.  If (and I know it is an 'if') Wheaton had used 1 QB this year, he would by high probability be the front runner to 1st team.

O'Boyle from Carthage would also be right up there had he avoided injury.

I don't dispute Ladd and Fanthrope from consideration, but this has been an atypical season for the QB in the CCIW.

Mugsy,
I dont disagree with you, but that is how the ball has dropped this year.  I was just pointing out that Fanthorpe has to be considered for the 1st team as of this last week and I dont think there are many people who would have thought that his numbers would be where they are at (conf. stats) after the 1st 3 non-conference games.

[redman04]

Except this year, Michigan will win the Big 10.

I would bet on Ohio State over Michigan

[matblake]

I think right now that 1st team QB is between Fanthorpe and Ladd.   Personally, I would give the nod to Fanthorpe at this point.  I think the WashU game is a perfect example of how important he was to his team, when he was ill they didn't have the same spark.  Add in the stats and I think you have the top QB.  I think it is close enough though that one week laying an egg could change the outcome for either of these guys. 

[Titan Q]

I think right now that 1st team QB is between Fanthorpe and Ladd.   Personally, I would give the nod to Fanthorpe at this point.  I think the WashU game is a perfect example of how important he was to his team, when he was ill they didn't have the same spark.  Add in the stats and I think you have the top QB.  I think it is close enough though that one week laying an egg could change the outcome for either of these guys. 

There is still 43% of the conference season to play...long way to go.

[FormerCard]

I think right now that 1st team QB is between Fanthorpe and Ladd.   Personally, I would give the nod to Fanthorpe at this point.  I think the WashU game is a perfect example of how important he was to his team, when he was ill they didn't have the same spark.  Add in the stats and I think you have the top QB.  I think it is close enough though that one week laying an egg could change the outcome for either of these guys. 

There is still 43% of the conference season to play...long way to go.

You must work in numbers...I doubt many would use a percentage to describe how many games are left in the season.   Accountant or Actuary?