FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Gregory Sager]

If Case falters against Thomas Moore this weekend 

How possible is this?  I would think a 2 loss NCC/Carthage team would be stronger than a 1 loss Case team?

not unprecedented but not likely either. Case has a pathetic SOS so who knows.

Why are you guys even talking about Case Western Reserve, anyway? CWRU is a Pool B team (the school's in the UAA, which has only four members that field football teams), and the Spartans are therefore not relevant to the Pool C discussion -- unless there's a serious overload of Pool B candidates, in which case (no pun intended) a Pool B entry can be considered for a Pool C berth. But I doubt that that's ever happened in football; it's certainly never happened in basketball. And the guys in the Pool B room seem 100% convinced that CWRU has already locked up a Pool B berth.

EDIT: And I see that Pat agrees about CWRU getting a Pool B berth in his playoff projection.

[Mr. Ypsi]

Greg, the consensus on the pool B board seems to be that Case, Wesley, Salisbury, and Whitworth are all locks if they win Saturday - that's 4 Bs for 3 slots.  If so, #4 looks like a very strong pool C candidate.

EDIT: And I see now that d3football projects Whitworth as a C.  That's one less slot for the C-only candidates (such as the NCC/Carthage winner), since selection of both B and C is national.  (So there's four more teams for CCIW fans to root against!)

[usee]

Greg, the consensus on the pool B board seems to be that Case, Wesley, Salisbury, and Whitworth are all locks if they win Saturday - that's 4 Bs for 3 slots.  If so, #4 looks like a very strong pool C candidate.

And if Case falters this weekend it puts them as the #4 pool b team. I just posed that question in the daily dose.

[Titan Q]

A Wesleyan mention in this week's Sun Times Small College feature...

http://www.suntimes.com/sports/colleges/640673,CST-SPT-small08.article

[FishHack76]

Coach Swider among leaders for Coach of Year award...

http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2007/10/29/FB-LIBMUT.asp?path=football

I have all the respect in the world for Coach Swider, who is a very nice gentleman and a great coach, but I think Coach Thorne at NCC should win CCIW Coach of the Year if the Cardinals take a share of the conference title, considering how many players he lost from last year.

[79jaybird]

So it does appear that the CCIW will get only 1 team in. 

[usee]

Coach Swider among leaders for Coach of Year award...

http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2007/10/29/FB-LIBMUT.asp?path=football

I have all the respect in the world for Coach Swider, who is a very nice gentleman and a great coach, but I think Coach Thorne at NCC should win CCIW Coach of the Year if the Cardinals take a share of the conference title, considering how many players he lost from last year.

Fish,

I am not sure where the logic is with this? If NCC beats Carthage and Wheaton beats IWU they will share the conference crown but Swider will own the head to head matchup. How does that argue Thorne over Swider for COY?

I agree if IWU wins saturday Eash should be a lock and If carthage beats NCC Rucks should be strongly considered.

[Mugsy]

Coach Swider among leaders for Coach of Year award...

http://athletics.wheaton.edu/News/football/2007/10/29/FB-LIBMUT.asp?path=football

I have all the respect in the world for Coach Swider, who is a very nice gentleman and a great coach, but I think Coach Thorne at NCC should win CCIW Coach of the Year if the Cardinals take a share of the conference title, considering how many players he lost from last year.

Fish,

I am not sure where the logic is with this? If NCC beats Carthage and Wheaton beats IWU they will share the conference crown but Swider will own the head to head matchup. How does that argue Thorne over Swider for COY?

I agree if IWU wins saturday Eash should be a lock and If carthage beats NCC Rucks should be strongly considered.

It truly has been a wild year... I don't remember having so many coaches that you could make a case for COY.  Swider, Thorne, Eash, Rucks... you could make sound arguments for all to win.

[Mugsy]

So it does appear that the CCIW will get only 1 team in. 

IMO, barring some significant upsets this weekend (and even then it is not likely), only 1 CCIW team makes it.

[FormerCard]

So it does appear that the CCIW will get only 1 team in. 

IMO, barring some significant upsets this weekend (and even then it is not likely), only 1 CCIW team makes it.

I hope the Cardinals represent the CCIW well      

[zorbadagreek]

are there any shoe ins to make the all conference team??

[lakeshore]

WR Chris Durr has garnered 1st team attention as NPU's last 3 opponents have double and triple covered him for most of not all of the game,

Hmmmm.....I have a hard time believing that Augie, Wesleyan and Wheaton doubled, let alone triple teamed a receiver for most of the game.   

if having ittersagen guard you for a whole game is a triple team then yes!  8)

My son and I were both at at the WC vs. NPU game and I can assure you....even after speaking with Coach P that Ittersagen was very seldom by himself on Durr all game. 

I think Pete is the DPOY in '07 however WC DID NOT let him cover Durr by himself.  Nor did IWU or Augie.  When you only have one true offensive threat it is fairly easy to game plan....isn't it?

[CardinalAlum]

are there any shoe ins to make the all conference team??

Bob Meyer

[usee]

WR Chris Durr has garnered 1st team attention as NPU's last 3 opponents have double and triple covered him for most of not all of the game,

Hmmmm.....I have a hard time believing that Augie, Wesleyan and Wheaton doubled, let alone triple teamed a receiver for most of the game.   

if having ittersagen guard you for a whole game is a triple team then yes!  8)

My son and I were both at at the WC vs. NPU game and I can assure you....even after speaking with Coach P that Ittersagen was very seldom by himself on Durr all game. 

I think Pete is the DPOY in '07 however WC DID NOT let him cover Durr by himself.  Nor did IWU or Augie.  When you only have one true offensive threat it is fairly easy to game plan....isn't it?

hmmm. I didn't realize coach P was calling the defensive signals for Wheaton. I was there too and wheaton plays mostly a cover 2 defense. Ittersagen was the cover 2 corner on Durr's side the entire game.  They lined up Ittersagen on whichever side Durr was on. So its true they rarely played man to man coverage but its also true they rarely double teamed him and never triple teamed him. They played a zone and if durr was running vertical or any outside route pete had him in that zone. Durr had 2 catches for 9 yards while pete was in the game.

[79jaybird]

Are there any shoo-ins for all conference players
Here are some I think have a high % of making it
Sulo NC
Scardullo EC
Maple EC possibly
Wenger NC
Dunlop IWU
Ciesel IWU
Kormelink MU

Hard to pick them this year because are many great players.