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Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

Good gravey...
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Quote from: New Tradition on February 27, 2008, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

Good gravey...

I Watched some of the combine this week, and I don't remember seeing very many LB's with a 40 like that.
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BigBlue02

Quote from: BIG Orange -Florida Connection on February 27, 2008, 08:41:38 AM
WOW - People are talking about Millikin now.  I do believe the school realizes that it has fallen behind, and I do believe that is why they are going to be spending several millions of dollars the next couple years to get the campus where it needs to be. 

All programs have swings with their programs - Look at the Irish at ND last year.

Millikin's campus is very impressive overall.  I'm not to worrired about what was said with the drinking aspect that was mentioned earlier.  I went to college just like the rest of you and you all know what it is like.

We will just have to wait and see how things turn out.......

All I know is my son will get a college education and is playing the best game ever(Football). 

GO BIG BLUE

Your son made a good choice, the campus is great and everytime I have been down there, it seems to get better.  If the big blue continue to make renovations to their facilities, the football program should get back in line.  Some of the staff, including the head coach, were there during the run they made during the late 90's early 00's.

I ll admit the conference as a whole has gotten a heck of alot better since then, but as the one of the lone millikin posters I'm keeping the faith alive.


DIIIinVA

Quote from: BIG Orange -Florida Connection on February 27, 2008, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: New Tradition on February 27, 2008, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

Good gravey...

I Watched some of the combine this week, and I don't remember seeing very many LB's with a 40 like that.

That has to be a generous hand timed 40 time.  I know he's fast, but that's a faster 40 than Michigan's star WR ran at the combine.  I could see Studebaker running an "official" 40 somewhere in the mid 4.5's and that is still blazing fast for an OLB his size. 

Mugsy or other Wheaton guys, is there any word on where he is in his rehab?  Will he be able to get to 100% in time to work out for scouts prior to the draft?

usee

Quote from: DIIIinVA on February 27, 2008, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: BIG Orange -Florida Connection on February 27, 2008, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: New Tradition on February 27, 2008, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

Good gravey...

I Watched some of the combine this week, and I don't remember seeing very many LB's with a 40 like that.

That has to be a generous hand timed 40 time.  I know he's fast, but that's a faster 40 than Michigan's star WR ran at the combine.  I could see Studebaker running an "official" 40 somewhere in the mid 4.5's and that is still blazing fast for an OLB his size. 

Mugsy or other Wheaton guys, is there any word on where he is in his rehab?  Will he be able to get to 100% in time to work out for scouts prior to the draft?

studebaker is closer to 250-255 lbs. I was told an NFL area scout hand timed him sub 4.5 in the 40 before last season. That's a big reason all the teams came to see him this year until he got hurt. I now hear he is rehabbing his foot surgery (apparently the same injury as dwight freeney) and is hoping to work out for scouts in April prior to draft. There is little doubt had he been healthy he would have attended the combine and with his freakish physical skills he would have tested as one of the top defensive linemen or linebackers in the nation.

Great news on Whitehead. He was a big reason for the Thunder success in the past. I am glad he is back.

Carthage Fan

Quote from: DIIIinVA on February 27, 2008, 01:29:15 PM
Quote from: BIG Orange -Florida Connection on February 27, 2008, 11:49:28 AM
Quote from: New Tradition on February 27, 2008, 11:33:28 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

Good gravey...

I Watched some of the combine this week, and I don't remember seeing very many LB's with a 40 like that.

That has to be a generous hand timed 40 time.  I know he's fast, but that's a faster 40 than Michigan's star WR ran at the combine.  I could see Studebaker running an "official" 40 somewhere in the mid 4.5's and that is still blazing fast for an OLB his size. 


Rule of thumb is hand timed 40's are about .10 faster than electronic.  Even so, a mid 4.5's at that size is impressive.  Would be interested to know his vertical. 

You know its funny, so much emphasis is placed on stats.  I remember hearing Walter Payton say he wasn't fast and never ran a good 40, but he was quick and we all know what he did.  So much depends on the athletic ability, game smarts and heart...how do you measure that? 
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New Tradition

Quote from: Carthage Fan on March 01, 2008, 07:24:20 AM
Rule of thumb is hand timed 40's are about .10 faster than electronic. 

Connor: The rule of thumb here is...
Rosengurtle: Wait, rule of thumb? In the early 1900s it was legal for men to beat their wives, as long as they used a stick no wider than their thumb.
Connor: Well, can't do much damage with that then, can we? Perhaps it should have been a rule of wrist?

Sorry, every time I hear the phrase "rule of thumb" I think of that scene haha
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Quote from: New Tradition on March 01, 2008, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Carthage Fan on March 01, 2008, 07:24:20 AM
Rule of thumb is hand timed 40's are about .10 faster than electronic. 

Connor: The rule of thumb here is...
Rosengurtle: Wait, rule of thumb? In the early 1900s it was legal for men to beat their wives, as long as they used a stick no wider than their thumb.
Connor: Well, can't do much damage with that then, can we? Perhaps it should have been a rule of wrist?

Sorry, every time I hear the phrase "rule of thumb" I think of that scene haha

What movie is that from?
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it."
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New Tradition

Quote from: Carthage Fan on March 02, 2008, 08:05:28 AM
Quote from: New Tradition on March 01, 2008, 02:43:10 PM
Quote from: Carthage Fan on March 01, 2008, 07:24:20 AM
Rule of thumb is hand timed 40's are about .10 faster than electronic. 

Connor: The rule of thumb here is...
Rosengurtle: Wait, rule of thumb? In the early 1900s it was legal for men to beat their wives, as long as they used a stick no wider than their thumb.
Connor: Well, can't do much damage with that then, can we? Perhaps it should have been a rule of wrist?

Sorry, every time I hear the phrase "rule of thumb" I think of that scene haha

What movie is that from?

It's during the opening credits in Boondock Saints.
I am a NATIONAL Champion, and I refuse to lose!

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redman04

Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

I'm certain his vertical jump rates well against NFL standards.  The guy has all the tools and ability, comes down to if he'll be healthy, if he'll get the chance to show off what he can do and a bunch of luck.


Here are mugsy's stats from college

Parallel Squat: 915 lbs.
Power Clean: 600 lbs.
Bench Press: 735 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 615 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 3.05
40-Yard Dash: 3.43
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Quote from: redman04 on March 03, 2008, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

I'm certain his vertical jump rates well against NFL standards.  The guy has all the tools and ability, comes down to if he'll be healthy, if he'll get the chance to show off what he can do and a bunch of luck.


Here are mugsy's stats from college

Parallel Squat: 915 lbs.
Power Clean: 600 lbs.
Bench Press: 735 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 615 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 3.05
40-Yard Dash: 3.43

In my own mind, sure... except you were 50lbs low on the bench press and a tenth of a second slow on my 40 time.  In fact in my own mind I can still perform at this level.

Current reality:
Parallel Squat: 215 lbs.
Power Clean: 100 lbs.
Bench Press: 135 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 115 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 7.05
40-Yard Dash: 8.43
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Quote from: redman04 on March 03, 2008, 11:17:06 AM
Quote from: Mugsy on February 27, 2008, 11:22:17 AM
Just a few other stats on Studebaker from last year (most of which can't be fudged too much - like can be done with the 40):

Parallel Squat: 615 lbs.
Power Clean: 400 lbs.
Bench Press: 435 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 415 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 4.05
40-Yard Dash: 4.43

I'm certain his vertical jump rates well against NFL standards.  The guy has all the tools and ability, comes down to if he'll be healthy, if he'll get the chance to show off what he can do and a bunch of luck.


Here are mugsy's stats from college

Parallel Squat: 915 lbs.
Power Clean: 600 lbs.
Bench Press: 735 lbs.
Overhead Jerk: 615 lbs.
Pro-Agility Shuttle: 3.05
40-Yard Dash: 3.43


Hmmmm.....well, I don't know about Mugsy's,  but the other 2 linebackers he played with weren't far off from those numbers!!  ;D
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burly

Quote from: Gregory Sager on February 26, 2008, 10:25:36 PM
The whole "bar scene" argument as a polemic for students to attend Millikin really cracks me up. How much? Let me count the ways:

1. The legal drinking age in Illinois is 21. Most undergraduates are not yet 21, particularly the high school recruits who are supposedly going to be swayed by the "bar scene" argument.

2. Touting relative proximity to major college towns such as Bloormal and Chambana begs the question: Why not simply go to ISU or to the U of I if the bar scene in those cities is really a selling point? Or, if playing D3 football is reason #2 for attending college (after the opportunity to party, of course), why not go to Illinois Wesleyan rather than Millikin and be that much closer to ISU bars? And if St. Louis is all that much of a draw, why not simply go to a SLIAC school or to UMSL, SLU, Wash U, etc.? Also, if you have to hop in a car and drive 45 minutes just to get to a particular bar, are you really sure that this is going to be a selling point in your favor? Lastly, do the initials "DUI" still mean anything downstate?

3. If Millikin has "the best non-white trash bar in Decatur" right next door, is it an African-American trash bar, a Hispanic trash bar, a Chinese trash bar, or an Australian Aboriginal trash bar? Inquiring minds want to know.

4. One can only imagine what is going through BIG Orange-Florida Connection's mind as he prepares to send his son off to Millikin, only to find that the school's primary selling point in the eyes of Millikin's lone poster on this board is the proximity to illegally-acquired alcohol for MU students.

5. If I'm an Augustana supporter and I read the words "Rock Island -- it is Decatur, except on the Mississippi," the next time that I venture to Millikin I'm bringing torches, pipe bombs, and zip guns with me and a plan to wreak some serious rage-induced havoc on the MU campus.

6. Am I the only one who noticed that BigBlue02 listed as collegiate selling points: a) availability of local bars and reasonable driving distance to major-college watering holes; b) proximity to parents; c) football facilities; and d) recruiting acumen of coaching staff, without including an e) academics?

7. In all fairness, if I was stuck in Decatur for any length of time, I'd probably drink like a fish, too. An atmosphere of total despair does funny things to a man.

8. Believe me, it does not cost $150 to get drunk in Chicago. There are any number of gentlemen on streetcorners here with paper-bag 40s who could set you straight on that score.

9. I'd like to see CardinalAlum's question answered, too: Where does "opportunities to party" go on a job application?

10. This is your free Mad Swede Memorial proof-of-purchase enumerated point.

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Quote from: 79jaybird on March 04, 2008, 05:43:32 PM
Moment of Silence:   Brett Favre has retired from the NFL.   >:(

I am a Bears fan, but I am also a Brett Favre fan.  That guy was fun to watch and IMO, one of the greatest competitors ever.  Glad he won't be playing the Bears anymore, but sad to see a football great decide to hang them up.

The majority of Bears fans that I know are very excited about this, but I'm not so sure that the Bears are going to get a break.  To me, Aaron Rodgers has looked pretty impressive on those occasions when Farve decided to let him see the field.  I hope that I'm wrong, but I see Rodgers being a pretty solid QB as well...
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