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Mr. Ypsi

Quote from: usee on August 11, 2008, 10:04:48 PM
IWU preview is up:

http://www.d3football.com/preview.php?id=1145&year=2008

For home-board bragging, that was pretty thin gruel.  Green as I am, anything over 4 wins (conference, not total) will seem like a bonus.

(But I still want rematches on last year's non-con games - by the end of the season, I think we were pool C candidates! ;D)

Mugsy

Quote from: Mr. Ypsi on August 11, 2008, 10:28:04 PM
Quote from: usee on August 11, 2008, 10:04:48 PM
IWU preview is up:

http://www.d3football.com/preview.php?id=1145&year=2008

For home-board bragging, that was pretty thin gruel.  Green as I am, anything over 4 wins (conference, not total) will seem like a bonus.

(But I still want rematches on last year's non-con games - by the end of the season, I think we were pool C candidates! ;D)

It does seem like a light helping, a small snack...  However season previews don't win games.

I already have 11/8 circled on my calendar after IWU destroy another Wheaton season.
Wheaton Football: CCIW Champs: 1950, 1953-1959, 1995, 2000, 2002-2004, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2019

DIIIinVA

That quote about Studebaker sounds to me like someone who has a good chance to make the roster for special teams, with the potential to work his way on the field on D down the road.  If he can stay healthy (never a given in the NFL), I think he'll stick around the NFL for a while.

QuoteAndy Studebaker showed up to play. He was a demon on defense, all over the field on the blitz and against the run. I don't know if he can cover anybody yet, but Studebaker sure is a great athlete and stirs things up.
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usee

Keep in mind that quote was a reporter's observation. We have seen nothing from the coaches.

matblake

Quote from: usee on August 12, 2008, 12:12:20 PM
Keep in mind that quote was a reporter's observation. We have seen nothing from the coaches.

Good point usee.  Never good when you don't hear anything from the coaching staff about someone. 

Carthage Fan

NCAA rule changes for 2008

NCAA FOOTBALL RULES COMMITTEE
SUMMARY:  RULES CHANGES FOR 2008

1-4-9-d   Microphones on referee mandatory in 2010 Strongly encouraged in 2008

1-4-9-g   Obtaining opponents' signals prohibited. No videotaping opposing signals..Patriot Rule?  ;) 

2-3-3   Chop block redefined. Added with or without delay in timing and thigh or below for "low"

3-2-2-h   Delete:  15-second play clock

3-2-2-i   Delete: clock adjustment following inadvertent whistle.

3-2-4   40-second play clock  I have included the rule...I get lost.....
3-2-4 (FR-67) 
b. 40-Second Clock. 1. When an official signals that the ball is dead, the
play clock shall begin a 40-second count.
2. If the 40-second count is interrupted for reasons beyond the control of
the officials or the play-clock operator (e.g., clock malfunction), the
referee shall stop the game clock and signal (both palms open in an
over-the-head pumping motion) that the play clock should be re-set
at 40 seconds and started immediately.
3. In the event that the 40-second clock is running and the ball is not
ready to be snapped after 20 seconds into the count, the referee
shall declare a timeout and signal that the play clock be set at 25
seconds. When play is to be resumed, the referee will give the ready-for-
play signal [S1] and the play clock shall begin the 25-second
count. The game clock will start on the snap unless it had been running when the referee declared a timeout; in that case it will start on the referee's signal.  ???


3-2-5-a-12  Clock stops when ball carrier, fumble or backward pass goes out of bounds and starts on the referee's signal, except that in the last two minutes of each half, the clock starts on the snap.

6-2-1  Free kick out of bounds:  Option to put ball in play 30 yards downfield

9-1-2-p   "Horse-collar" tackle introduced as a personal foul This does not apply to a runner who is inside the tackle box or to a quarterback who is in the pocket.   BS Rule...I don't like this in the NFL either

9-1-2-q   Five-yard face mask/helmet opening foul eliminated.  Foul is only for twisting, turning or pulling the face mask or helmet opening—15 yards.  Good change...

9-1-3   Initiating Contact/Crown of Helmet/Targeting an opponent Personal foul for hitting with the crown of the helmet (if called not called enough) and personal foul and automatic 1st down for hitting a defensless player above the shoulders  Good rule

9-1-6   Sideline infractions (formerly warnings):  First two—fouls for delay of game (5-yard penalty).  Third and subsequent—foul for sideline interference (15-yard penalty)  No more warnings

12-3-1   Reviewable play:  Field goal attempt above or below crossbar and lower than top of uprights.

12-3-3   Reviewable play:  Ball carrier ruled down and fumble immediately recovered prior to dead-ball signal being given.

12-3-3   Reviewable play:  Ball carrier ruled out of bounds and immediately carries ball into opponent's end zone prior to dead-ball signal being given.

12-3-3   Egregious game-clock error may be corrected by Replay Official (RO).

12-3-4   Egregious errors may be corrected by the RO.  However, this does not include reviewing fouls that are not specifically reviewable.

12-5-1   Coach may retain successful challenge only once.
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it."
George Halas

DIIIinVA

Quote from: matblake on August 12, 2008, 12:17:33 PM
Quote from: usee on August 12, 2008, 12:12:20 PM
Keep in mind that quote was a reporter's observation. We have seen nothing from the coaches.

Good point usee.  Never good when you don't hear anything from the coaching staff about someone. 

I know it was just a reporter, so of course it has to be taken with a grain of salt.  But Studebaker's measurables are what they are, and I'm pretty comfortable saying his heart and effort won't be lacking.  Those things alone (measurables that spell "loads of potential" if they can be developed + good effort and high character) should be enough to at worst keep him bouncing around the NFL for a couple or three years even if only on practice squads, barring an injury that takes the edge off the measurables.  I know it's not a given, but I'll be surprised if he doesn't at least see some regular season NFL action somewhere, at least on special teams, before he hangs the cleats up for good.

Mugsy

#14873
Quote from: Carthage Fan on August 12, 2008, 01:41:56 PM
3-2-4   40-second play clock  I have included the rule...I get lost.....
3-2-4 (FR-67) 
b. 40-Second Clock. 1. When an official signals that the ball is dead, the
play clock shall begin a 40-second count.
2. If the 40-second count is interrupted for reasons beyond the control of
the officials or the play-clock operator (e.g., clock malfunction), the
referee shall stop the game clock and signal (both palms open in an
over-the-head pumping motion) that the play clock should be re-set
at 40 seconds and started immediately.
3. In the event that the 40-second clock is running and the ball is not
ready to be snapped after 20 seconds into the count, the referee
shall declare a timeout and signal that the play clock be set at 25
seconds. When play is to be resumed, the referee will give the ready-for-
play signal [S1] and the play clock shall begin the 25-second
count. The game clock will start on the snap unless it had been running when the referee declared a timeout; in that case it will start on the referee's signal.  ???


Rule for when to start the play clock from the unofficial, unabridged, unbound, unread, 2003 NCAA rule book (which has been "flagged" since it was taken into a bathroom):

A reading from the Book of NCAA clock management, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:

Now did the Lord say, "First thou setith the pigskin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then setith thou play clock in preparation for the destruction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."
Wheaton Football: CCIW Champs: 1950, 1953-1959, 1995, 2000, 2002-2004, 2006, 2008, 2012, 2014, 2015, 2019

Jim Matson

usee, Matt and Mugsy...and now a few words from a coach:

In his first preseason game, Studebaker impressed special teams coordinator Rory Segrest with his ability to make plays. "Andy Studebaker did a nice job for us," said Segrest, when asked which rookies stood out. "I felt like he was aggressive, playing downhill, and I feel like he's going to be able to give us some things there."
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mr_b

#14875
The season preview for North Park is on line:

http://npuvikings.homestead.com/files/Football_Preview.pdf


Lots of new names with a definite international flavor: the Vikings will suit up players from Denmark, Norway (two members of the "Oslo Trolls"), and Mali.  I had no idea that American football had a following in Mali.

Carthage Fan

Quote from: Mugsy on August 12, 2008, 04:49:40 PM
Quote from: Carthage Fan on August 12, 2008, 01:41:56 PM
3-2-4   40-second play clock  I have included the rule...I get lost.....
3-2-4 (FR-67) 
b. 40-Second Clock. 1. When an official signals that the ball is dead, the
play clock shall begin a 40-second count.
2. If the 40-second count is interrupted for reasons beyond the control of
the officials or the play-clock operator (e.g., clock malfunction), the
referee shall stop the game clock and signal (both palms open in an
over-the-head pumping motion) that the play clock should be re-set
at 40 seconds and started immediately.
3. In the event that the 40-second clock is running and the ball is not
ready to be snapped after 20 seconds into the count, the referee
shall declare a timeout and signal that the play clock be set at 25
seconds. When play is to be resumed, the referee will give the ready-for-
play signal [S1] and the play clock shall begin the 25-second
count. The game clock will start on the snap unless it had been running when the referee declared a timeout; in that case it will start on the referee's signal.  ???


Rule for when to start the play clock from the unofficial, unabridged, unbound, unread, 2003 NCAA rule book (which has been "flagged" since it was taken into a bathroom):

A reading from the Book of NCAA clock management, Chapter 4, Verses 16 to 20:

Now did the Lord say, "First thou setith the pigskin. Then thou must count to three. Three shall be the number of the counting and the number of the counting shall be three. Four shalt thou not count, neither shalt thou count two, excepting that thou then proceedeth to three. Five is right out. Once the number three, being the number of the counting, be reached, then setith thou play clock in preparation for the destruction of thine foe, who, being naughty in my sight, shall snuff it."

Now I understand it!  I am sure there be some confusion this year. 

BTW, what is everyone's thought on the horse collar rule?
"Nobody who ever gave his best regretted it."
George Halas

matblake

Quote from: Jim Matson on August 12, 2008, 08:39:28 PM
usee, Matt and Mugsy...and now a few words from a coach:

In his first preseason game, Studebaker impressed special teams coordinator Rory Segrest with his ability to make plays. "Andy Studebaker did a nice job for us," said Segrest, when asked which rookies stood out. "I felt like he was aggressive, playing downhill, and I feel like he's going to be able to give us some things there."


Thanks, Jim!  Duly noted!  :)

matblake

Quote from: Carthage Fan on August 13, 2008, 07:37:36 AM
BTW, what is everyone's thought on the horse collar rule?

Honestly, I don't know what to think about the horse collar rule.  Part of me wants to say, "This is football, let them play."  On the other hand, the majority of college football players will be "going pro in something other than sports."  If a rule can prevent someone from limping around for the next 60 years, I'm kind of for that.  It puts the defense at a disadvantage in certain situations, but I'm not sure the number of actual games it could change the outcome as a whole in all divisions of the NCAA.