FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[matblake]

All interesting, but then what was the deal with the feathers in the logo?

No, don't start it! Run away! Run away!

[Comet 14]

I ahve a question, After reading Mugsy's Post on the Conferense stats I wennt to the CCIW website. Who compiles those stats? I noticed that Randy Wright had no sack or forced fumbles in 2 conference games but he had a sack and forced the fumble that ended Carthages chances Sat. Help anyone

[orsky]

Carthage was the "Redmen" with a feather logo and a Native American theme.  The NCAA ruled that this name was offensive to Native Americans and so they changed their name to the Red Men to associate with the uniform colors from the 1920's.  The also eliminated the feathers and added the torch.  Not sure how the torch relates, but there it is.

Carthage Illinois high school was indeed the Blue Boys until they consolidated with La Harpe and Dallas City 2 years ago and the school is now called Illini West with a nickname of the Chargers.

[usee]

I ahve a question, After reading Mugsy's Post on the Conferense stats I wennt to the CCIW website. Who compiles those stats? I noticed that Randy Wright had no sack or forced fumbles in 2 conference games but he had a sack and forced the fumble that ended Carthages chances Sat. Help anyone

Not sure but in the play by play it says "C 3-2  E46 Jones, Evan rush to the CARTHAGE49, fumble forced by Wright, Randy, fumble by Jones, Evan recovered by CARTHAGE Koenenman, Jeff at CARTHAGE38" the official scorer must have thought jones was trying to run vs pass at the time. It is clearly a big loss. Its also not the final fumble. Carthage fumbled its next posession at the E37 yd line, which was forced by Mike LeFleur.

[CardinalAlum]

I need to find a job like you guys have....
I barely have enough time to keep up with all the postings.....

Should have gone to North Central then!!  8)

[CardinalAlum]

Come on NT.....almost there! 

[Redmen96]

I'll take Minnesota World Series championships in my lifetime vs. both Chicago teams in your lifetime.

I'll raise you all Chicago championships in either of our lifetimes vs. all Minnesota championships in either of our lifetimes.

Based on your extensive discussions of the Bulls and Blackhawks here in the past, no doubt. Yawn.

The Blackhawks haven't won a Stanley Cup since JFK was in the White House, Pat, so it's not as though the Indianhead sweater is all that great of an asset to my argument. And I'll skip the Bulls and stick to the sports that I have discussed on this site. Plus, I'll stick to teams that have won championships within your lifetime:

pro baseball:
Minnesota 2, Chicago 1

pro football:
Chicago 1, Minnesota 0

college basketball:
Chicago 5, Minnesota 3

college football:
Minnesota 2, Chicago 0

college baseball:
Minnesota 1, Chicago 0

TOTAL:
Minnesota 8, Chicago 7

(I spared you mention of the Arena League football championship that the Chicago Rush won in '06. I am nothing if not a generous man, Patrick. )

However, I still claim a win on points, since you have to resort to using the Concordia-Moorhead women and the St. Thomas women in order to pull ahead.

I'll just raise you three words:  "Pistons / Red Wings"

We won't be crude enough to mention Tigers / Lions, will we?

Since you're invoking pro hockey and pro basketball, Chuck, you won't get off as easily as Pat. This is the comparison within my lifetime (since I have only the vaguest idea how many eons you've walked the earth) between Chicago and Detroit:

NFL:
Chicago 2, Detroit 0

NBA:
Chicago 6, Detroit 3

NHL:
Detroit 4, Chicago 1

MLB:
Detroit 2, Chicago 1

college basketball:
Chicago 6, Detroit 0

That's 16-9, Chicago. If you want to change it to Michigan vs. Illinois, sticking as per Pat to the common database of the sports that I discuss on this site, plus the two extra leagues that you threw in (NBA and NHL), then you get six more wins for college football (four for Grand Valley State, one apiece for Michigan and Michigan State), six more for college men's basketball (two apiece for Calvin and Michigan State, one apiece for Cornerstone and Michigan), three more for college women's basketball (two for Hope, one for Alma), one for college baseball (Michigan won a College World Series when I was a toddler), and two for college men's soccer (Michigan State shared a couple of titles in the late sixties). That boosts your score to 27.

Meanwhile, I get another credit for college men's basketball (Illinois Wesleyan -- feel the pain, Chuck ), two extra W's for college women's basketball (one apiece for North Central and Millikin), four for college baseball (three for Lewis and one for St. Francis) ... and then I lay down my trump card (am I doing this right, Mugsy? ), college men's soccer, and boost my score by seventeen more championships (Quincy, 11; Illinois-Springfield, 3; Wheaton, 2; and Eastern Illinois, 1). So I've got you by a healthy margin, 40-27. And I didn't even have to call upon the Northwestern women's lacrosse team or Wheaton's lady kickers to complete the Chuck's-preferred-sports beatdown.

Blah Blah

I will go Patriots-- Red Sox--Celtics     AND I CALL!!

[FormerCard]

I need to find a job like you guys have....
I barely have enough time to keep up with all the postings.....

Should have gone to North Central then!!  8)

That way you don't have to work AND you can stand in the endzone during games and stuff your face with free brats and cookies!   (or $100,000 brats, if you want to factor in what you paid to go to NCC)

[FormerCard]

Come on NT.....almost there! 

I remember my 200th post,  i think i was giving updates on a Saturday afternoon for a meaningless game,  my life at that point was very exciting.

[ncc58]

About 5 years ago, we were enjoying the brats and cookies and someone commented that it was free - well except for what we paid to become alumni. Of course, we're much older than you and our brats and cookies only cost us in the neighborhood of $16,000.

I need to find a job like you guys have....
I barely have enough time to keep up with all the postings.....

Should have gone to North Central then!!  8)

That way you don't have to work AND you can stand in the endzone during games and stuff your face with free brats and cookies!   (or $100,000 brats, if you want to factor in what you paid to go to NCC)

[Carthage Fan]

Back to the chicken or the egg, I guess.   

But seriously, I think that is a fair point.  I'm willing to attribute some of Carthage's lower ranking to having played some better offenses, but the gap between them is still large enough to take a look at.

Agreed.  

[New Tradition]

Come on NT.....almost there! 

Sorry, was a little busy this afternoon and evening.  I do appreciate all of the encouragement from everyone, though!  I don't think I've ever really seen this before. 

[usee]

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[New Tradition]

I need to find a job like you guys have....
I barely have enough time to keep up with all the postings.....

Should have gone to North Central then!!  8)

That way you don't have to work AND you can stand in the endzone during games and stuff your face with free brats and cookies!   (or $100,000 brats, if you want to factor in what you paid to go to NCC)

I'm a big fan of the alumni tent and the people who run it. 

[New Tradition]

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Man, even when I sneak on to get a few posts in before I go to sleep you are still all over it!  I'm impressed with your dedication, usee.