FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[old 40]

Congrats to M.Baptist for scoring 21 points against CUC. They made it a very close game. I'm glad to see these guys play their hearts out. You guys are very impressive with the few players you have on the roster. Keep up the good work. I think there is alot of improvement each week from the Crusaders. Good Luck the rest of the season.

Looks like there were some good games this weekend. AU still rolling and awaiting their playoff draw. I heard the CUW and WLC game was very interesting. Did anyone see it?

[old 40]

Sorry CCIW board I posted my NAC post to your board by mistake.

[New Tradition]

Sorry CCIW board I posted my NAC post to your board by mistake.

I SUPPOSE we'll let it slide...THIS TIME!!!!   

[Mugsy]

Congratulations to the #2 ranked North Central Cardinals!!!! You guys earned it, now keep it going!

NCC absolutely dominated wheaten on all three aspects of the game. Ittersigan(sp) was obsolete. For the exception of a few break downs in the secondary NC played a nearly perfect game. Shut down the run, applied pressure, created turnovers, and moved the ball up and down the field scoring 40+. Very impressed by the win. Janecek & Treglown came up with huge plays on defense the whole game. Fanthorpe looked crisp and kept his composure regardless of the 6'4 260 d-line hitting him every play.

Please...    Ittersagen obsolete?  Name a team in the CCIW who wouldn't take him in a heart beat.

Not sure what game you were looking at, but Fanthorpe was not getting hit every play.  I'll agree Fanthorpe looked crisp, but the pressure on him could have been much, much better.  I believe it was one of the keys to the game (along with virtually everyone else).  The NCC lines controlled the game on both sides of the ball.

wow, I bit feisty are we... I was watching the same game as you, "hitting him every play" is just a saying, he obviously wasn't getting hit EVERY play, there were several times after the ball was thrown where he was hit and still made great throws.

Ittersagen... 5 solo, 2 asst... for a pre-season POY in all of D3football. I'd say thats pretty obsolete. 1 punt return for 0 yrds... 3 KR for 60yds.... all pretty average no matter what program you play for. Ittersagen is a great player... just not this past week... truth hurts... sorry

Not feisty at all.  Just responding to a ludicrous, ignorant statement based on misinterpretion of the stats. You are far too simplistic in your logic.

Before I get into your flawed conclusion... why not just say you were impressed with how Fanthorpe keep his composure (either stayed in the pocket and delivered a great pass or scrambled) when Wheaton did get pressure on him?  Why make a sweeping exaggeration that Fanthrope keep his composure while getting hit on every play?  It is just a saying?  It seemed rather literal to me.

5 solo, 2 asst
First of all, I would have loved to see Ittersagen with only 2 or 3 tackles.  That would have meant the front 7 of Wheaton were doing a better job in the trenchs.  By your warped logic, that would have made him even more immaterial.  You put the poor showing by Wheaton's defense on a defensive back.  7 tackles by a corner is actually quite a game, especially when you factor in that he is one of the best tackling DB's in the country.  He doesn't miss many tackles and he doesn't shy from contact like a lot of DB's.

1 punt return for 0 yards:
The one punt he did field was a beauty (from NCC perspective).  A towering 41 yard punt into the wind with great hang time.  Ittersagen fair caught that punt at Wheaton's 16 yard line with 2 NCC coverage men right on him.  To attempt to field that punt without a fair catch would have been stupid.  The first NCC punt was a 30 yard shank out of bounds in an attempt to kick away from Ittersagen.  The 3rd punt was again punted away from Ittersagen and travelled only 29 yards before going out of bounds.  The NCC punter kicked the ball out of bounds 2 of 3 times and your coach is quoted in an interview before the game stating they will keep the ball away from Ittersagen because he is capable of returning any kick.  Yet... he is obsolete?

Who is the player that is easiest to avoid when defining your offensive scheme?  A defensive tackle?     If there is a superior corner back, you can easily scheme to attack the opposite side of the field.

You claim that Ittersagen is a great player, just not this past week.  And yet he made virtually every play that came his way.  He was smart with the one punt he could field and NCC was avoiding him whenever possible on the other punts.  To top if off, NCC only had 3 punts due to Wheaton's inability to stop the NCC offense.  Last time I checked, punt and kick returns are not successful soley because on 1 return man.  The return teams must provide some level of blocking.  On the kick returns Ittersagen had, there wasn't much blocking upfront and NCC's coverage was stellar.

Your primary mistake is the use of the word "obsolete".   I would have had no problem if you had stated Ittersagen had little impact on the game.  But it isn't because he didn't play well.  NCC kicked away from him on punts and didn't throw in his direction too many times.  I don't think NCC avoided throwing to Ittersagen's side like many teams have this year.  I think NCC found some other weaknesses in Wheaton's defense and chose to attack there instead (ie. the seams with the TE for one).

btw:  I love when people finish a post the comments like "truth hurts... sorry."  Like it is final and there can be no argument against what was said.  It's kinda like the "just look at the film" creed.

[ncc58]

Ittersagen was far from obsolete.  I guarantee you that Fanthorpe knew exactly where he was on EVERY play.  

Agreed. I know that on every play, I looked to see where Ittersagen was lined up. I'm sure that Fanthorpe and the receivers did as well. On every punt, I looked to see where he set up. And, I kept expecting him to return on kickoff returns as well. Ittersagen has made a big play in every previous game with NCC so you had to know where he was. This time, he did not have an interception or long punt return, especially early, that could have changed field position or momentum.

Langs had a tough game, but I imagine he's used to it. Seriously, how many teams are going to throw at Ittersagen?

As an aside, my son informed me that Kyle Fiedorowicz has a younger brother (CJ) who is the same size and has several offers, including one from Notre Dame.

[CardinalAlum]

btw:  I love when people finish a post the comments like "truth hurts... sorry."  Like it is final and there can be no argument against what was said.  It's kinda like the "just look at the film" creed.

Here's the video of Mugsy stating the above!!    8)

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YZEbvQDEEA4

[usee]

As an aside, my son informed me that Kyle Fiedorowicz has a younger brother (CJ) who is the same size and has several offers, including one from Notre Dame.

Kyle Basketballwicz had 4 catches for 58 yds through the first 6 games of the season. In game 7, with a conference title and top 10 ranking on the line, playing on the road with several more experienced NCC WR's hurt/not playing, he had 4 catches for 78 yds (in a spread offense). That's a pretty good coming out party and solid testament to a program that has depth.

[matblake]

Blitz Creed trying to make his point to Mugsy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ4CweGjUVM

[usee]

1 punt return for 0 yards:
The one punt he did field was a beauty (from NCC perspective).  A towering 41 yard punt into the wind with great hang time.  Ittersagen fair caught that punt at Wheaton's 16 yard line with 2 NCC coverage men right on him.  To attempt to field that punt without a fair catch would have been stupid.  The first NCC punt was a 30 yard shank out of bounds in an attempt to kick away from Ittersagen.  The 3rd punt was again punted away from Ittersagen and travelled only 29 yards before going out of bounds.  The NCC punter kicked the ball out of bounds 2 of 3 times and your coach is quoted in an interview before the game stating they will keep the ball away from Ittersagen because he is capable of returning any kick.  Yet... he is obsolete?

Mugsy,

I agree with your post but have 1 correction. NCC punted 4 times. Fair catches don't count as returns as far as I am aware. The 1 return was after Wheaton had made the score 37-21 and they forced a punt. NCC punted to the Wheaton 39 yd line (near wheaton sideline) and Mucha, who is the personal protector on the NCC punt team, made the tackle as soon as Ittersagen caught it. It was a great play by Mucha.

[matblake]

As an aside, my son informed me that Kyle Fiedorowicz has a younger brother (CJ) who is the same size and has several offers, including one from Notre Dame.

Kyle Basketballwicz

Nice one 

[79jaybird]

The biggest thing for Elmhurst on Saturday vs. Goliath is going to be consistency.  Elmhurst showed that they could run between the tackles against the mighty IWU defense, and their D-Line/LB's have been able to get to the QB.
Consistency has been the variable and if Elmhurst is going to knock off Wheaton, they have to play 4 quarters of solid ball and limit their mistakes.    Even then it may/may not be enough against the Swider Troop who are going to be extra hungry after their loss last week.

[Mugsy]

1 punt return for 0 yards:
The one punt he did field was a beauty (from NCC perspective).  A towering 41 yard punt into the wind with great hang time.  Ittersagen fair caught that punt at Wheaton's 16 yard line with 2 NCC coverage men right on him.  To attempt to field that punt without a fair catch would have been stupid.  The first NCC punt was a 30 yard shank out of bounds in an attempt to kick away from Ittersagen.  The 3rd punt was again punted away from Ittersagen and travelled only 29 yards before going out of bounds.  The NCC punter kicked the ball out of bounds 2 of 3 times and your coach is quoted in an interview before the game stating they will keep the ball away from Ittersagen because he is capable of returning any kick.  Yet... he is obsolete?

Mugsy,

I agree with your post but have 1 correction. NCC punted 4 times. Fair catches don't count as returns as far as I am aware. The 1 return was after Wheaton had made the score 37-21 and they forced a punt. NCC punted to the Wheaton 39 yd line (near wheaton sideline) and Mucha, who is the personal protector on the NCC punt team, made the tackle as soon as Ittersagen caught it. It was a great play by Mucha.

Thanks for the correction.  I made a quick review of the play-by-play in the boxscore and missed that return.  At that point in the game I was already at home and did not see the return. 

I believe my argument is still valid.  NCC was kicking away from Ittersagen and when they didn't, their coverage was very good.

[usee]

The biggest thing for Elmhurst on Saturday vs. Goliath is going to be consistency.  Elmhurst showed that they could run between the tackles against the mighty IWU defense, and their D-Line/LB's have been able to get to the QB.
Consistency has been the variable and if Elmhurst is going to knock off Wheaton, they have to play 4 quarters of solid ball and limit their mistakes.    Even then it may/may not be enough against the Swider Troop who are going to be extra hungry after their loss last week.

Jbird,

You may be misremembering. The IWU defense was certainly "mighty" last year but a quick look at the boxscores will show you their defense has not been performing well YTD.

[Comet 14]

Well, only one thought comes to mind after the  EC/IWU game, and that is missed opportunities for Elmhurst who had many chances to win this game.  Elmhurst led this game 10-7 at the half, holding the Titans to almost nothing on the ground (13 yds?) in the first half, and controlled Ceisel who was kept quiet.  Elmhurst even stopped IWU 7 times in the final second of the first from inside the 5 yd line, and then IWU missed the FG. 
Then.... where did Elmhurst go in the 3rd quarter   There was still 30 minutes to go in the game, and that 3rd quarter was horrific from an EC standpoint.  Couple thoughts from the game:
1) Elmhurst ran the ball right up the Titans throat in the first half with Gibson running right between the tackles.  EC's O-Line played very well all game long.  Don't know why EC didn't try to keep the sesstained running game going into that 3rd quarter.
2) IWU won this game because of Kraig Ladd's poise in the pocket.  He took some shots as Randy Wright and Brandon Jones popped him a few times.  Couple shots I was surprised to see him pop right back up.  His ability to stand up and make plays (knowing he was going to get hit) helped the Titans go from 10-7 down to 21-10 up.
3) Elmhurst's secondary "had their moments" which did not help.

Overall, a pleasant evening in Bloomington (first EC night game ever in Bloom) just disappointing because Elmhurst had their chances to beat IWU.
                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                  I agree Jaybird, Elmhurst had there chances, they just have not learned how to win big games yet. Congrats to IWU They stepped up the 2nd half and got it done.                                                                                                                                                 Your 3rd point can't be stated enough! Lets hope that the Bluejays can play 4 quarters next week or they will be in trouble.

[Mugsy]

Blitz Creed trying to make his point to Mugsy:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ4CweGjUVM

lol...

I may be a pasty computer geek, so the complexion is valid, but I do have a bit more hair than that.