FB: College Conference of Illinois and Wisconsin

[Son of Tailgater]

If Augie wins in Naperville this week I would not be surprised. It's the CCIW and in this league nothing surprises me. It's better to get the loss out of their system now rather than week 11.

[79jaybird]

"Augie wins in Naperville this week..."
SOT- what makes you think so i.e. defense offense special teams?

I don't think NC loses this game at home.  I think the Cards' defense keeps Podulka inside the tackles and doesn't allow the little speed demon to control the game.  Plus, NC has had Augie's number recently.

[ncc58]

I think there should be no question that ittersagen is a first team all CCIW and first team all american. I would be very sruprised if he didn't win both those awards easily. I do not think he will be DPOY. I think Wenger has that wrapped up. I also

I'm really surprised that anyone even questions that Ittersagen is a first team All CCIW choice. I certainly haven't seen a DB who is better. Every coach in the CCIW knows he is there and they obviously gameplan to stay away from him. Sometimes you can't. But Pete will not show up high in the rankings for interceptions or breakups but that doesn't mean he's not playing well.

I think his reputation is also well known on the national level, and even without strong statistics to back up his play (except for number of pass attempts away from his side), he will get strong consideration for All Amercia status.

I also think that Ittersagen will get consideration for DPOY based on his body of work in his four years. Wenger is the front runner, but you don't know what will happen if NCC were to lose their final two games.

Anyone want to guess what happens for the OPOY? Without Fanthorpe missing perhaps 3 games, who are the leading candidates?

[ncc58]

"Augie wins in Naperville this week..."
SOT- what makes you think so i.e. defense offense special teams?

I don't think NC loses this game at home.  I think the Cards' defense keeps Podulka inside the tackles and doesn't allow the little speed demon to control the game.  Plus, NC has had Augie's number recently.

North Central's run defense has been strong all year. They were allowing 2 yards per rush attempt up until the Wheaton game. Gingg finished with a 3.8 average but only had 24 yards on 12 carries at halftime. IWU had a little success but not enough to really commit to the run. I don't expect Augie to run all over NCC, so they will have to show a good passing game.

[79jaybird]

early thoughts on some All Conferences

DB- Ittersagen Wheaton
LB's  Wright EC and Wenger NC
QB  Fanthorpe NC  Ladd?  (I would give him some votes)
RB  Sulo NC
WR's Ceisel IWU  D'Angelo EC   Merchut?

Gosh, there are quite a few players that could be inserted into an All-Conference slot.

[usee]

This Augie/NCC game is a very interesting matchup. The players have played what they consider to be their biggest game. That isn't to say they don't think this game is big, but they will understandably consider this game to be no bigger than they did for ONU at the time and Wheaton at the time. Add to this they will see what Wheaton did to Augie in Rock Island and it isn't hard to see how a young NCC team may be a little overconfident with the Vikings coming to Naperville.

Wheaton's game against Augie was a tale of 2 halves. They were losing at halftime 14-13 and Augie's offense had done whatever they wanted. Wheaton came out the second half and held Augie to 43 total yards while scoring 2 TD's to win easily. What changed? 2 things: 1-Wheaton was committed to running the ball right at Augustana, who is very quick but also very small on the defensive front. They lined up with 1-2 TE's, in the I formation and ran the ball straight ahead. Over 200 yds on the ground. Norris was very efficient and the passing game kept Augie off balance. Defensively, Wheaton came out and pressured Podulka from the start of the 2nd half. They forced him to make decisions quickly and get the ball out of his hands. He is playmaker on offense. As Podulka goes, so Augie goes. all of their offense happens close to the LOS and Podulka reads the defense to determine whether to run/pass and also whether to hand off/keep. Blitzing Podulka gets the ball out his hands.

NCC has the speed to contain Podulka but I think you have to pressure him IMO. Offensively, NCC isn't a straight ahead rushing team and Kniss isn't as crisp a decision maker that Fanthorpe is. I think not having Fanthorpe is a huge disadvantage to NCC. With him in the lineup I think NCC wins easily. Without him, this game will be close IMO.

NCC has an advantage in special teams as well. Their coverage teams are fast and aggressive.

I have to think 21 pts wins this game.

[Mugsy]

early thoughts on some All Conferences

DB- Ittersagen Wheaton
LB's  Wright EC and Wenger NC
QB  Fanthorpe NC  Ladd?  (I would give him some votes)
RB  Sulo NC
WR's Ceisel IWU  D'Angelo EC   Merchut?

Gosh, there are quite a few players that could be inserted into an All-Conference slot.

I don't have time right now to go into more, but I would think Jones from Carthage has to be considered for QB given he was ranked high the country in several passing categories.  Carthage will have at least one WR in the mix as well - I think Merchut is the primary target.

[usee]

The all conference selections are very much up for grabs. Many positions will be decided in the games the next two weeks. To the victors go the spoils. Every win will result in more All Conference selections. I would think Randy Wright solidified his place on the 1st team last weekend vs Wheaton. He certainly will get Swider's vote. I think Podulka has a strong chance to be OPOY depending on what he does this weekend. I think you will have Podulka and Fanthorpe as your 2 qb's on the all conf team (if they only pick 2). LB and WR will be the two most contested positions. There are some great players at those two positions in this league. I am looking forward to seeing Nikolich this weekend for IWU to compare him to Wright, Jordan, Pagh, Meyer, Ojong and Treglown, all of whom I have seen this year.

[robertgoulet]

NCC has the speed to contain Podulka but I think you have to pressure him IMO.

This is exactly what I thought NCC did a great job of vs. the breakfast of champions. Hopefully they can use that scheme effectively against Augie as well.



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[79jaybird]

Robertgoulet,

That is also how Elmhurst was able to shut down Wheaton.  There were times that Norris did not have a chance as the D-Line and LB's were getting to the Wheaton QB.  I think NC has the tools defensively to be able to handcuff Podulka which is going to be one of the key matchups this Sat.

[usee]

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http://www.philadelphiaeagles.com/news/Story.asp?story_id=16585#

[Blitz Creed]

I think there should be no question that ittersagen is a first team all CCIW and first team all american. I would be very sruprised if he didn't win both those awards easily. I do not think he will be DPOY. I think Wenger has that wrapped up. I also don't think Wright is a close second. I think Randy Wright is a great talent but he isn't quite where Wenger is physically. Wenger is stronger and can take on blockers where Randy still gets tied up inside in the running game. They are both very fast and athletic and have great instincts for the ball. Wenger is on a different level right now IMO.

I do think ittersagen's performance Saturday may have cost him a shot in the NFL. He may still get a look in a camp or a tryout but scouts are going to see that tape and say if he can't cover Matt D'Angelo (no offense to matt) how is he going to cover Marty Booker and Rashied Davies? He has a great chance to redeem himself this weekend because Norm will as usual challenge ittersagen several times so Pete better be ready.

No question a first team all-american, with ease? I think you are discrediting dozens of great defensive backs in the nation who play for top 25 teams, that have just as much talent, size/speed and statistics.

Covering WR in the league.... I was to think that Ittersagen would be used primarily for special teams, possibly a specialist like B. Ayanbadejo. I know he is getting scouted as a DB but I would figure his primary use would be special teams. So would a bad game hurt his chances if he has the skills and speed? IMO I would think not, in my experiences the NFL obviously looks at talent and statistics but more so on test numbers. I still think Ittersagen has a great chance.

[New Tradition]

I know he is getting scouted as a DB but I would figure his primary use would be special teams. So would a bad game hurt his chances if he has the skills and speed? IMO I would think not, in my experiences the NFL obviously looks at talent and statistics but more so on test numbers. I still think Ittersagen has a great chance.

Really?  Even with him being all obsolete and everything? 

[usee]

I think there should be no question that ittersagen is a first team all CCIW and first team all american. I would be very sruprised if he didn't win both those awards easily. I do not think he will be DPOY. I think Wenger has that wrapped up. I also don't think Wright is a close second. I think Randy Wright is a great talent but he isn't quite where Wenger is physically. Wenger is stronger and can take on blockers where Randy still gets tied up inside in the running game. They are both very fast and athletic and have great instincts for the ball. Wenger is on a different level right now IMO.

No question a first team all-american, with ease? I think you are discrediting dozens of great defensive backs in the nation who play for top 25 teams, that have just as much talent, size/speed and statistics.

Name one. Dozens? You are delirious.

I do think ittersagen's performance Saturday may have cost him a shot in the NFL. He may still get a look in a camp or a tryout but scouts are going to see that tape and say if he can't cover Matt D'Angelo (no offense to matt) how is he going to cover Marty Booker and Rashied Davies? He has a great chance to redeem himself this weekend because Norm will as usual challenge ittersagen several times so Pete better be ready.

Covering WR in the league.... I was to think that Ittersagen would be used primarily for special teams, possibly a specialist like B. Ayanbadejo. I know he is getting scouted as a DB but I would figure his primary use would be special teams. So would a bad game hurt his chances if he has the skills and speed? IMO I would think not, in my experiences the NFL obviously looks at talent and statistics but more so on test numbers. I still think Ittersagen has a great chance.

Besides the fact that you contradict yourself here (either that or you think there are "dozens" of dbs who will also get an NFL shot) I agree with your assessment. Ittersagen will probably get a free agent contract and a chance to prove himself on special teams.

[Mugsy]

I think there should be no question that ittersagen is a first team all CCIW and first team all american. I would be very sruprised if he didn't win both those awards easily. I do not think he will be DPOY. I think Wenger has that wrapped up. I also don't think Wright is a close second. I think Randy Wright is a great talent but he isn't quite where Wenger is physically. Wenger is stronger and can take on blockers where Randy still gets tied up inside in the running game. They are both very fast and athletic and have great instincts for the ball. Wenger is on a different level right now IMO.

I do think ittersagen's performance Saturday may have cost him a shot in the NFL. He may still get a look in a camp or a tryout but scouts are going to see that tape and say if he can't cover Matt D'Angelo (no offense to matt) how is he going to cover Marty Booker and Rashied Davies? He has a great chance to redeem himself this weekend because Norm will as usual challenge ittersagen several times so Pete better be ready.

No question a first team all-american, with ease? I think you are discrediting dozens of great defensive backs in the nation who play for top 25 teams, that have just as much talent, size/speed and statistics.

Name one. Dozens? You are delirious.

Even though he graduated years ago and played LB... Bob Meyers?