FB: Northwest Conference

[Bearcat Press]

You know, I'm relatively new here, but I was under the impression that the SCIAC board was created for the discussion of teams in the SCIAC, while the NWC board was created for the discussion of teams in the NWC.

Again, I could be wrong . . .

[Gig Harbor Cat]

buckj64,
 Now don't forget about the former SCIAC QB that is wearing a National Championship ring from last year.  Of course he had to to UWW to do it.  Isn't that kind of like winning for the SCIAC ??

Phone it in

GHC

[Gig Harbor Cat]

yup wrong again.

GHC

[Gray Fox]

You know, I'm relatively new here, but I was under the impression that the SCIAC board was created for the discussion of teams in the SCIAC, while the NWC board was created for the discussion of teams in the NWC.

Again, I could be wrong . . .

It's just that the SCIAC is much more interesting.

[D O.C.]

You know, I'm relatively new here, but I was under the impression that the SCIAC board was created for the discussion of teams in the SCIAC, while the NWC board was created for the discussion of teams in the NWC.

Yes! And families tell their children to put the lights out and GO TO SLEEP! too.

Your observations will lead you to the West Coast teams are like...well, Hawaiian Islands. It's cheaper to play each other pre-season and lately we've had to play each other in the early and earlier rounds of the playoffs.

[RFB]

Now don't take your ball and go home, we're having a good little conversation here... try and persuade me here big guy.. I want to believe in the power of the SCIAC.
Ok so when was the last time a SCIAC team won a national title? When did a SCIAC team advance passed the first round of the play-offs? How many times before getting the auto-bid did the SCIAC get multiple teams in pool B? If you're winning your conference title vs. the weak sisters of the south then your claim is not exactly meritorious.

Redlands has been playing football for close to 100 years. That's a pretty long time and they do have a long and proud history. Has Linfield enjoyed more overall success? Yep, they sure have.

You just reinforced my point about lack of respect. I guess I need to add you to the group along with Blue & GT. Not to nitpick your stats but Redlands did play for the 1976 NAIA Championship. 

[/quote]

Cal Lu: 1971 NAIA National Champions
Cal Lu: 1975 NAIA Runner-Up
Redands: 1976 NAIA Runner-Up

Oxy: 2004 Beat Willamette & Concordia-Moorhead/ 28 Team Field

1990: Redlands Playoff Berth: 16 Team Field
1992: Redlands Playoff Berth: 16 Team Field
1994: La Verne Playoff Berth: 16 Team Field

[d-train]

Cal Lu was also a runner-up in '77 and a playoff team in '79 and '82. They tangled with the Lutes and Wildcats a few times in the NAIA playoffs.

http://grfx.cstv.com/photos/schools/naia/sports/m-footbl/auto_pdf/ChampionshipRecords.pdf

While I don't think the SCIAC has been as competitive or successful nationally as the NWC, WIAC, St. John's, Mount, Rowan, etc. - their history shouldn't be dismissed. They certainly won a few recent points with Oxy in 2004 and it's hard to deny what Redlands did to our champ (Whitworth) last year. Also, it wasn't easy to get into the old 16-team D-3 playoff brackets.  

[bluenote]

Redlands...Red Land = Mars

[Tuxguy]

Just for kicks lets look at the strength of schedule for the SCIAC and the NWC this year.

NWC
Linfield........36
Willamette...53
PLU..............61
Whitworth...77

SCIAC
La Verne.........13 with a 1-5 record
Cal Luthern...117
Redlands.......129
Occidental......173

I can see why they don't want to play the #2 team from the NWC.

[fwgis]

Just for kicks lets look at the strength of schedule for the SCIAC and the NWC this year.

NWC
Linfield........36
Willamette...53
PLU..............61
Whitworth...77

SCIAC
La Verne.........13 with a 1-5 record
Cal Luthern...117
Redlands.......129
Occidental......173

I can see why they don't want to play the #2 team from the NWC.

Where did you get those numbers? That's interesting, I thought someone showed me onlie that Willamette had the second or third highest strength of schedule..

[Tuxguy]

The D3.com home page......

Strength of Schedule

[George Thompson]

they are not the program of 2004/2005

Past records
1999 (6-3, 3-2 NWC)
2000 (9-1, 5-0 NWC)
2001 (7-2, 4-1 NWC)
2002 (10-1, 5-0 NWC)
2003 (11-1, 5-0 NWC)
2004 (13-0, 5-0 NWC)
2005 (10-1, 4-0 NWC)
2006 (6-3, 5-1 NWC)
2007 (6-3, 4-2 NWC)
2008 (4-2, 3-1 NWC)

We are cranky because we want to, at least, be the program of 2000. You see, RFB, those one loss years were playoff losses. No automatic bid. Just beat Redlands and any team in the way and take yer chances with the committee.
We are cranky because our conference finagles an auto bid and we have not taken advantage.
Cranky, perhaps, that if we had a 10th game win over Redlands, we'd look better to whatever committee throws scraps to teams that could not win the conference.
Yeah, Fantasy Island dwellers: We came out of the 80's with a strut shared with PLU who had one loss in conference, was selected, and then ran the table. If they could do it, why shouldn't we be able to?
Why wouldn't Redlands want the feather in their cap of beating LINFIELD and perhaps contribute to ending THE STREAK, I wonder?

D.O.C.,

Very well said.   You said it much better than I can.    And, yes, the Wildcats would win at least two of the three games against those SCIAC teams.   Very possibly all three.     Linfield could also beat other Top 10 teams in the Regional Rankings.   

I sincerely believe Willamette will go deep int he playoffs.     

George

[bbaddict]

So, explain what the numbers mean because I'm confused.  Is a low number better or a high one?

[bbaddict]

And, while you're at it -- who's been tweaking my Karma?  I have my own Karma gun now you know?

[RFB]

they are not the program of 2004/2005

Past records
1999 (6-3, 3-2 NWC)
2000 (9-1, 5-0 NWC)
2001 (7-2, 4-1 NWC)
2002 (10-1, 5-0 NWC)
2003 (11-1, 5-0 NWC)
2004 (13-0, 5-0 NWC)
2005 (10-1, 4-0 NWC)
2006 (6-3, 5-1 NWC)
2007 (6-3, 4-2 NWC)
2008 (4-2, 3-1 NWC)

We are cranky because we want to, at least, be the program of 2000. You see, RFB, those one loss years were playoff losses. No automatic bid. Just beat Redlands and any team in the way and take yer chances with the committee.
We are cranky because our conference finagles an auto bid and we have not taken advantage.
Cranky, perhaps, that if we had a 10th game win over Redlands, we'd look better to whatever committee throws scraps to teams that could not win the conference.
Yeah, Fantasy Island dwellers: We came out of the 80's with a strut shared with PLU who had one loss in conference, was selected, and then ran the table. If they could do it, why shouldn't we be able to?
Why wouldn't Redlands want the feather in their cap of beating LINFIELD and perhaps contribute to ending THE STREAK, I wonder?

D.O.C.,

Very well said.   You said it much better than I can.    And, yes, the Wildcats would win at least two of the three games against those SCIAC teams.   Very possibly all three.     Linfield could also beat other Top 10 teams in the Regional Rankings.   

I sincerely believe Willamette will go deep int he playoffs.     

George

Enjoy your popcorn for the third year in a row.