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wildcat11


RedandPurple

Quote from: OxyBob on December 03, 2008, 01:47:12 PM
Quote from: RedandPurple on December 03, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
You didn't include Linfield in your list;Here's their number.
Linfield Enrollment: 1700 (McMinnville campus)

I'll try and work on a complete list of the enrollments of second place teams later.

Quote from: voice on December 03, 2008, 01:26:17 PM
OxyBob - you must have a hell of a bad case of penis envy

I am perfectly satisfied to let you be the biggest dick in the room.

OxyBob

OxyBob:
Ooops, my bad. I didn't look close at the title of your post. No problem.
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston S. Churchill

RedandPurple

Quote from: coco on December 03, 2008, 01:36:55 PM
We weren't in the Top 25, were we?
coco:
I didn't look close enough at the list title. No problem.
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston S. Churchill

RedandPurple

Quote from: wucatwu on December 03, 2008, 01:40:31 PM
Quote from: RedandPurple on December 03, 2008, 01:31:12 PM
OxyBob:
You didn't include Linfield in your list;Here's their number.
Linfield Enrollment: 1700 (McMinnville campus)

I think he was just listing top 25

wucatwu:
Ooops, I didn't read his post close enough. I was just looking at the names of the schools.
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston S. Churchill

RedandPurple

#21169
Here's an interesting list:
2007 NCCA DIVISION III FOOTBALL ATTENDANCE TEAM LEADERS
1. St John's (Minn.) Games 6  Attendance 52,614 AVERAGE 8,769
9. Wis.-Whitewater Games 9  Attendance 38,961 AVERAGE 4,329
56. Pacific Lutheran Games 4  Attendance 9,800 AVERAGE 2,450
72. Linfield Games 4 Attendance 9,267 AVERAGE 2,316
76. Whitworth Games 5  Attendance 11,325 AVERAGE 2,265
93. Pugent Sound Games 4  Attendance 9,800 AVERAGE 2,450
106. Willamette Games 4  Attendance 8,064 AVERAGE 2,016
124. Occidental Games 4  Attendance 6,850 AVERAGE 1,712
165. Redlands Games 3  Attendance 3,616 AVERAGE 1,205
208. Menlo Games 6  Attendance 4,650 AVERAGE 775
214. Lewis and Clark Games 4  Attendance 2,653 AVERAGE 663
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston S. Churchill

Gig Harbor Cat

Careful now fellas you are going to offend our female posters from down south.

First it was bush jokes during the election now its dick jokes, You crack me up


so to speak


GHC  out

bbaddict

Wow, this is really sad.  Is attendance numbers & enrollment numbers the best we have to talk about?  Can't we at least discuss who's going to be the best football team next year?

Gig Harbor Cat

No Problem

Linfield

what else do you want to talk about ?

wildcat11

Instead of bitching about it how about YOU provide us with your thoughts on the topic if you deem the current topic so sad.

I know you haven't been around this board very long but I think it would be sad if we spend the next 200 plus days just breaking down next season every waking moments.  If you don't like it the basketball board is there for you to talk NWC hoops.

Now back to the subject on hand....I don’t believe UPS attendance figures at all.  They claimed there were 3,750 at the UPS/Linfield game.  Now I wasn’t at that game but in watching the sideline film there is no way there were that many people there.  If there were only 3,250 for Willamette/Linfield this season then there could only have been 2,200-2,400 at UPS for the Linfield game…tops. 

BTW, I thought the Linfield figures were a bit skewed as I hear this season they didn’t count students in the attendance figures (good source).  I have NO good idea why Linfield wouldn’t count students in the attendance figures and would think that is a bad practice.

D O.C.

OK Everybodee!

Let's compare WIAC, MIAC,SCIAC and NWAIC attedance and pull out the tape measure.

"I don't care about the cold water. It sure is deep!" <sarcasm/punchline/joke>

Bearcat Press

#21175
How about we all chill out by reading my recap of the Willamette/Whitewater game, eh? ;)  The copy editors did a number to it, so I'm posting the original version here.  To forestall any misunderstanding about the first two paragraphs, they're comparing the pedigree and facilities of WU and UWW.  Please note that there is no discussion of enrollment or GPAs, since I think they're pretty irrelevant to the discussion.

UNBELIEVABLE SEASON COMES TO A HEARTBREAKING CLOSE
Tim Walsh
Staff Writer

The Northwest Conference's annual preseason poll picked the Willamette Bearcats to finish fourth in the NWC.  D3football.com's preview magazine Kickoff picked Willamette third in conference, 81st overall.  The Bearcats play in unassuming McCulloch Stadium, capacity 2,400, and have won exactly one playoff game in ten years – two weeks ago against Occidental.

The Wisconsin-Whitewater Warhawks, defending national champions and back-to-back-to-back Stagg Bowl participants, were ranked second overall by Kickoff.  The Warhawks are 39-3 over the last three years, play in 13,500 seat Perkins Stadium and are among the class of Division III.

"If you drove on their campus and you drove on our campus, I think you'd be shocked that we play them," said Willamette head coach Mark Speckman.

But the Bearcats' Cinderella year and Whitewater's fluke regular season loss propelled the two schools onto a collision course that ended in a titanic battle last weekend, with the defending champs surviving a furious Bearcat rally to pull out a 30-27 victory.  The loss eliminates #6 Willamette (11-1, 6-0 NWC) from the playoffs, while the Warhawks advance to the quarterfinals.

"Close losses are always tough," said Speckman.  "This one stings a little more . . . We know we could have won."

#4 Whitewater (11-1, 6-1 WIAC) set the tone early.  Two three-and-out series by the Bearcats set the Warhawks up with excellent field position, and Whitewater cashed in with two easy touchdowns.

Willamette's sputtering offense finally kicked into life after the second touchdown, but Grant Leslie's fourth-down pass to Scott Schoettgen fell incomplete deep in Warhawk territory.  Whitewater scored again easily, and the Bearcats suddenly found themselves down 21-0 just minutes into the second-quarter.  Two more Willamette drives penetrated inside the Warhawk 25 yard line, but a Leslie interception and another failed fourth-down conversion left the Bearcats with a goose-egg at halftime.

"If someone had told me that we'd make a great comeback, I'd have kicked [field goals]," Speckman admitted.  "At the time though, I felt we needed touchdowns . . . It was a debatable decision."

There were signs of life toward the end of the half when cornerback Ryan Bettancourt made a spectacular interception in the end zone, and after a defensive stand forced the Warhawks into their first punt of the day to start the third quarter, the Bearcats' offense finally got on the board with an 82-yard strike from Leslie to Schoettgen.

The Bearcats dominated the third quarter, punctuating another long drive with a Leslie bullet to tight end Josh Lee, but the most critical play went Whitewater's way.  Facing second down from the Willamette one yard line, Deon Horne was tackled in the end zone for a safety to put the Warhawks ahead 23-7.  It would prove to be a difference-maker.

"We have a strategy for when we're inside the five," said Speckman.  "As we were watching film, I was really hoping we'd never get inside the five.  I honestly don't know what play would have worked."

Another difference-making play came on a two-point conversion attempt after Lee's touchdown pulled Willamette to within 23-13.  As Scott Schoettgen attempted to catch a Leslie pass in the back corner of the end zone, a Whitewater defensive back appeared to interfere with the receiver, but no flag was thrown.

Asked if he thought there was interference, Speckman replied without hesitation, "Absolutely.  The Whitewater radio guy thought there was interference.  But what can you do?"

The Warhawks responded by handing the ball to running back Antwan Anderson, who carried the ball for 15 times for 116 yards and a touchdown in the fourth quarter alone.  Still, Willamette had life after a 27 yard touchdown reception by Schoettgen and a blocked Warhawk field goal attempt.  When Deon Horne pulled Willamette within three at 30-27 with a little over three minutes left, the Bearcats were moving the ball at will against Whitewater's vaunted defense.

Unfortunately, they wouldn't get another chance.  Anderson, who had 269 yards on 34 carries for the day, salted the game away as Whitewater's line opened gaping holes in Willamette's defensive front.  Speckman was particularly impressed:

"I could average three yards behind that line," the coach muttered.

Despite the heartbreaking defeat, the Bearcats put together one of their most impressive offensive outings of the season against one of the nation's top defenses, racking up 509 yards on the day.  Leslie threw for 285 yards and three touchdowns on 16-24 passing, and Horne ran for 124 yards on 20 carries.  Schoettgen abused the Warhawks' secondary for 169 receiving yards and two touchdowns.

Speckman, however, was more impressed by his team's grit.  "There was no quit in any of those guys.  Our defense played gutsy ball, our offense moved the ball against them better than anyone had in three years.  But there's only so many bullets in the gun.  What they have that we don't have is tremendous depth.  That's what we need."

"But hey, one thing we have going for us is that if you're looking for the best school with great football, we're the pretty obvious choice right now."
"It's a slippery slope from the penthouse to the outhouse." - Mark Speckman

Gig Harbor Cat

Press,
  +k on your article.  Nice job

Phone it in

GHC

wildcat11

Press,

Good article (as usual) but two points I want to disagree with.

I was lucky enough to be on the call with PC and at the time I said it was a mistake for Willamette to go for it on that 4th down towards the end of the 1st half.  It was a high risk/reward and thought Willamette should have taken the points/momentum into the locker room.  It's not like Willamette wasn't moving the ball in the first half and we all knew the Bearcats could put up (18) 21 points in a hurry.  I though it was a bit of a panic call so early in the game.

The second point is that I said that the no call in the end zone was the right call in regards to the 2-point conversion.  The contact didn't re-route the receiver and it was minimal contact.  He didn't grab him..it was more of a soft forearm check like you would see in hoops.  It was a close call and was happy to see the refs let the players decide the game on the field and not on judgment call penalties.

BearcatFan

Great article, Press. I'll be interested to read the edited version when I'm on campus tomorrow.

I'm gonna watch the CCTVSalem replay tonight at 6, which will probably just rekindle my depression of Sunday/Monday but hey... I'm a glutton for punishment!   :'(

+K if I had the ability - maybe someone else will add Karma for you on my behalf.
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RedandPurple

From bearcatpress:
"We have a strategy for when we're inside the five," said Speckman.  "As we were watching film, I was really hoping we'd never get inside the five.  I honestly don't know what play would have worked."

bearcatpress: What is his/their strategy inside the five?
This seems to like a strange statement for a coach to make. Coaches need to know what to do in every situation.
Just wondering.
Go Cats! Make it 62 in '17!
"Success is not final, failure is not fatal: it is the courage to continue that counts."
Winston S. Churchill