FB: Northwest Conference

[D O.C.]

0-63....I blame it all on the L&C announcers for bringing back that 45 year-old Giant Killer stuff in their pre game.   

[Gig Harbor Cat]

Bearkitties are going down !!

This one will be over at the half boys !!

They will be tapping out like the Pios.. The most studly Pio that I met on Sat was their Mascot,  that big boy not only had bark like the pios, but he had bite as well !!

Phone it in

GHC

[Jack Parkman]

If things stay the same in the SCIAC and NWC are we looking at CLU/Linfield 6.0, or is it now 8.0?

[bluenote]

If things stay the same in the SCIAC and NWC are we looking at CLU/Linfield 6.0, or is it now 8.0?

I would hope not....from a fan's standpoint I'd like to play someone new once in a while in the 1st round. I'm sure CLU feels the same way.

[wyd]

  They'll be ready this week!

I agree.  Not sleeping on Willamette.  Talented team for sure.  It should be a great game at the 'Catdome.

ADvantage 'Catdome: Lewis & Clark Post-Game Interviews

It was kind of downer we couldn't crack the top 25.  I like the new Willamette offense .   

[wildcat11]

ADvantage 'Catdome: 'Cats Win! Linfield blasts Lewis & Clark back to May 21st, 1804 in a 63 - 0 victory

[(509)Rat]

If things stay the same in the SCIAC and NWC are we looking at CLU/Linfield 6.0, or is it now 8.0?

If PLU becomes a Pool C contender (by winning out) I think you could finally see the end of CLU v Linfield. Of course they could still send PLU to WI/MN and ship CLU up to Oregon...

I like to imagine the 3 way tie scenario. Willamette shocks Linfield and sets up a 3 way tie for first. The AQ bid gets fun...
1. can't separate based on head to head to head results (nobody would be 2-0 against the other 2)
2. Record against 4th place team won't solve anything as they all beat Whitworth
3. Overall record...I think this is where Willamette gets the AQ, all because Linfield only has a 9 game schedule

All that being said, I don't see Willamette beating Linfield. I was very wrong about their D improving. They couldn't stop a nosebleed when it counted. Defense wins championships...unless you are Rowan...then your superior defense decides not to show up in big games 

[RedandPurple]

ADvantage 'Catdome: 'Cats Win! Linfield blasts Lewis & Clark back to May 21st, 1804 in a 63 - 0 victory

Great game review and the story of the little boy's encounter with Wes Meng was EXCELLENT! It brought back my own memories of attending Cal-Berkely games with my brothers and my dad. We'd rush down on the field after the games and try to grab a chin strap off a helmet for a souvenir.  Gave you karma for that one.

[OldCatProf]

(509) Rat,

If there is a 3-way tie in the NWC, any chance there is a rule somewhere that the "winner" of the AQ bid will be the team that hasn't been to the playoffs for the most years (sort of like the Big Ten rule from many years ago)? If so, wouldn't that team be PLU which would throw Linfield and Willamette into Pool C?...with Willamette getting that bid (if any) because the BearKitties beat the Wildcats?

Of course, Linfield won't lose on Saturday, but it does raise interesting questions if it did happen.

[d-train]

(509) Rat,

If there is a 3-way tie in the NWC, any chance there is a rule somewhere that the "winner" of the AQ bid will be the team that hasn't been to the playoffs for the most years (sort of like the Big Ten rule from many years ago)? If so, wouldn't that team be PLU which would throw Linfield and Willamette into Pool C?...with Willamette getting that bid (if any) because the BearKitties beat the Wildcats?

Of course, Linfield won't lose on Saturday, but it does raise interesting questions if it did happen.

The ol' Rose Bowl rule.  Yes, I think that is part of the tie-breaking equation (and would favor PLU)...but I believe it is below overall record on the list.  In other words, PLU would drop out of a possible three-way tie because of their other loss (to Cal Lu).  Then the head-to-head breaks the other two teams (Willamette the Pool A and Linfield a very strong Pool C).

If someone can find the official NWC tie-breaker documentation, I'd be curious.  But my money is on Linfield anyway, with fingers crossed for a Pool C ticket for the Lutes to Thousand Oaks.  The current Wildcats are too young to remember 2001 - but I'm sure it's been mentioned. 

[Gray Fox]

(509) Rat,

If there is a 3-way tie in the NWC, any chance there is a rule somewhere that the "winner" of the AQ bid will be the team that hasn't been to the playoffs for the most years (sort of like the Big Ten rule from many years ago)? If so, wouldn't that team be PLU which would throw Linfield and Willamette into Pool C?...with Willamette getting that bid (if any) because the BearKitties beat the Wildcats?

Of course, Linfield won't lose on Saturday, but it does raise interesting questions if it did happen.

The ol' Rose Bowl rule.  Yes, I think that is part of the tie-breaking equation (and would favor PLU)...but I believe it is below overall record on the list.  In other words, PLU would drop out of a possible three-way tie because of their other loss (to Cal Lu).  Then the head-to-head breaks the other two teams (Willamette the Pool A and Linfield a very strong Pool C).

If someone can find the official NWC tie-breaker documentation, I'd be curious.  But my money is on Linfield anyway, with fingers crossed for a Pool C ticket for the Lutes to Thousand Oaks.  The current Wildcats are too young to remember 2001 - but I'm sure it's been mentioned.

LEAVE NO DOUBT(S).

[(509)Rat]

(509) Rat,

If there is a 3-way tie in the NWC, any chance there is a rule somewhere that the "winner" of the AQ bid will be the team that hasn't been to the playoffs for the most years (sort of like the Big Ten rule from many years ago)? If so, wouldn't that team be PLU which would throw Linfield and Willamette into Pool C?...with Willamette getting that bid (if any) because the BearKitties beat the Wildcats?

Of course, Linfield won't lose on Saturday, but it does raise interesting questions if it did happen.

The ol' Rose Bowl rule.  Yes, I think that is part of the tie-breaking equation (and would favor PLU)...but I believe it is below overall record on the list.  In other words, PLU would drop out of a possible three-way tie because of their other loss (to Cal Lu).  Then the head-to-head breaks the other two teams (Willamette the Pool A and Linfield a very strong Pool C).

If someone can find the official NWC tie-breaker documentation, I'd be curious.  But my money is on Linfield anyway, with fingers crossed for a Pool C ticket for the Lutes to Thousand Oaks.  The current Wildcats are too young to remember 2001 - but I'm sure it's been mentioned.

This. And for the championship handbook, this is what I could find online:

6.1  Method of Selection (Adopted Summer 2009)
6.1.1 The team receiving the NCAA AQ will be determined by the following procedure:
            1. Best Conference Record
            2. If two-way tie – Head to Head Result
            3. If three-way tie – Head to Head among three, 2-0 advances
            4. If three-way tie without 2-0 record – record vs. 4th place team
            5. If still three-way tie – Over all Record
            6. If still three-way tie – NWC team with longest time since participating in the postseason will receive NCAA AQ
            7. If a tie still remains, a draw conducted by ADs prior to the end of the season will determine NCAA AQ

NWC Football Manual

[bluenote]

If someone can find the official NWC tie-breaker documentation, I'd be curious.  But my money is on Linfield anyway, with fingers crossed for a Pool C ticket for the Lutes to Thousand Oaks.  The current Wildcats are too young to remember 2001 - but I'm sure it's been mentioned.

In 2001 there was a three way tie between PLU, Linfield and Whitworth. PLU beat Linfield and Linfield had beaten Whitworth. Whitworth beat PLU......sorry....I'm getting a head ache.

Whitworth and PLU ended up in the playoffs with PLU beating Whitworth by 1 point in the 1st round....I believe PLU made it to the 3rd round before loosing to SJU.

If someone knows exactly how they decided who made it in the playoffs with the tie scenerio I'd be interested.

Looks like (509) Rat has provided above.

[(509)Rat]

WC11 can correct me if I'm wrong, but with no AQ at the time we were selected by the NCAA.

So no NWC rules/influence, just the selection committee. I don't remember any reasoning behind taking PLU over Linfield. I remember thinking Whitworth was the most obvious of the 3 with only 1 loss (PLU and Linfield had 2).

[wildcat11]

WC11 can correct me if I'm wrong, but with no AQ at the time we were selected by the NCAA.

So no NWC rules/influence, just the selection committee. I don't remember any reasoning behind taking Whitworth over Linfield. PLU made sense with a better overall record than the other 2.

Correct....there was no AQ in 2001.  That's why the conference brought Menlo into the conference, to get that 7th team and gain AQ status.